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Thanks for your detailed reply, DU.

Are you suggesting that all these technical questions about how to cooperate with other companies could be better dealt with by the new management?

You suspected wrongly, Chessman: I had thought of that.

I am questioning the idea that a new management would be able to get a new major company interested.

Either they are interested or they aren't.

Is it just that the previous management just didn't know how to clinch the deal?

You suspected wrongly, Chessman: I had thought of that.

I am questioning the idea that a new management would be able to get a new major company interested.

Either they are interested or they aren't.

Is it just that the previous management just didn't know how to clinch the deal?

If I may permit myself the luxury of commenting on JOG's prospects rather than the prospects of GuntherGroober + about 50 other aliases of TheShen being removed ...

What I don't understand is why people think that a new management team should be able to farm out a prospect that a previous team had been unable to farm out.

The asset hasn't changed; presumably, the prospective farminees will be the same.

What could a new management do differently?

Well, I did say that GuntherGoober is TheShen, and when he says he has a copy of an email sent by TheShen, that must be the best confession I can think of.

If PCO1 wants to get back to discussing JOG's prospects, perhaps he would be so kind as to suggest to GuntherGoober that he leave the JOG board alone, or better still send an email like the one he says TheShen sent.

That is precisely what I would like to see happen, PC, but what would you say if I told you some of the discussion boards here - for companies in which I am invested - have practically been taken over by someone with multiple accounts?

The following recent posters on LOGP have been positively identified as having multiple accounts:

JustScott, ROCKLAWN, BEARDOZER, MisterPositive and NigelHaemoglobin.

The four members who had used the imagery of a man flogging a dead horse - BEFORE I started to expose their connections - were:

TheShen and ranger4 on LSE, and rbonnier and longwait on advfn.
TheShen has been banned, rbonnier has admitted to having another account on advfn by the name of catswhiskas, and also admitted to being vampirekitten on LSE.
As for ranger4, as I pointed out yesterday:
TheShen and ranger4 have both used 'clowns' as an insult, used the expression 'led up (or down) the garden path', have both use the imagery of a dead horse being flogged, as well as that of a dead duck, have both used the expression, SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL, with the apostrophe missing, and both made a tasteless remark about LONGWAIT's 'knickers getting in a twist.'
They too used all those expressions before I started exposing the connections.

TheShen = oilpimpdxb = ranger4 = Sharetrader123 = Tommy393 = bigbench = AussieRidge = GunterGoober (all on LSE) [= rbonnier = catswhiskas = longwait (all on advfn)].

I repeat my request for all of them to be banned and call on all members who like me want to see LSE rid of them and returned to sanity to support me and report their views to the administrators.

First, GuntherGoober has been claiming on SOU LSE that TheShen had merely announced that he was planning to take a few months off from LSE and planning to come back - an invention on GuntherGoober's part.
The truth is that TheShen was banned, as ps200306 explained.
Secondly, it is quite obvious that GuntherGoober is an alias of TheShen because no-one else would have a motive to invent such a story.
Thirdly, several aliases of TheShen yesterday posted sarcastic comments repeating words and expressions which are characteristic of TheShen's aliases, in response to my having identified them.
They appeared under the thread heading BIGBENCH OUTED AS THESHEN / TOMMY393.
I reported them and almost all have been removed - including an extremely offensive one containing the f-word posted by oilpimpdxb, who is an alias of TheShen, at 17:41.
I have a screenshot of it and yes, I intend ultimately to make all the evidence I have accumulated public, unless TheShen's aliases are all banned, in accordance with LSE's own rules.
A post at 18:11 by another of TheShen's aliases - tom111 - which claimed that I invented the case against him and the other aliases - was also removed after I complained about it.
Another post at 18:41 by AussieRidge, in which he repeated three of TheShen's aliases' expressions, including a reference to spanking - which had been used by oilpimpdxb - was also removed after I complained about it.
A reference to spanking by PNE79 at 21:22 has also been removed.
Whether ps200306 used the 'flogging a dead horse' theme as a dig at me is not known to me, but it is a fact that I had mentioned its use perhaps 20 times in my efforts to expose what has been going on, and ps has not been supportive.
GuntherGoober is claiming that I am LONGWAIT on advfn.
The poster on advfn who stole my account name is longwait - not LONGWAIT - and anyone can check for himself that he opened his account nearly seven years after I opened my account here, and also that I then opened an account called real longwait on advfn in order to unmask him as TheShen.
Anyone can also take a look at 'longwait''s very first post on advfn in which he claims to be me and a worried female investor seeking advice.
When confronted, TheShen pretended to misunderstand me as claiming that I was a woman.
More recently, he repeated his claim that I am a woman:
'I think Longwait on the LSE board is theshen. She has accused absolutely everyone else of being theshen with the notable exception of herself. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.'
('longwait' on advfn referring to me as if I were a woman, 20/10/2021 21:58)
As I have pointed out, Sharetrader123 - one of TheShen's aliases - who has repeatedly claimed that ps200306 is a woman - used the identical expression to that used by 'longwait' about me:
'Sundance, The lady doth protest too much, methinks'
(Sharetrader123, referring to ps200306 as if he were a woman, 31 Jul 2021 11:31)
(to be continued)

The list of TheShen's aliases on LSE alone now stands at 41 (excluding TheShen and Tommy393).
A couple of days ago, I wrote to a poster I've known for a long time, as follows:
"You have also emphatically denied that ranger4 is TheShen.
TheShen and ranger4 have both used 'clowns' as an insult, used the expression 'led up (or down) the garden path', have both use the imagery of a dead horse being flogged, as well as that of a dead duck, have both used the expression, SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL, with the apostrophe missing, and both made a tasteless remark about LONGWAIT's 'knickers getting in a twist.'
Are you saying those are just a series of coincidences?
If you don't think it is a series of six coincidences, then you have to admit that ranger4 and TheShen are the same person.
So, which is it?"
He did not reply, so I wrote to him:
"SHARETRADER123 and 1DAYMAYBE have both used 'numptie,' 'muppet', and 'methinks.'
If you think that's just chance, and that they are different people, then you are deluded, but I don't think you really think that."
He still did not reply and, in fact, the entire thread has been removed.

You seem remarkably similar to me, DU!
Even though I had never heard of the case before, the events you relate are remarkably familiar to me, like a recurring theme.
It is true that dealing with the authorities can be like trying to drive a car through a brick wall, but it can happen that they eventually succumb to the relentless pressure of being presented with incontrovertible facts.
In the case of multiple posters on LSE, however, having multiple accounts is contrary to LSE's rules, and enforcement of the rules would hardly require a criminal prosecution!
I am sure I know why the administrators are so reluctant to act: the sheer size of the problem is staggering.
I have become so good at spotting multiple accounts opened by TheShen /Tommy393, that the total number on both forums is accelerating towards three digits.
So far, it stands at 38 on LSE (including the two banned) and 46 on advfn (including venomous viper, who has disappeared).
I posted a detailed analysis on SOU here today, in which I outed a few more, but there is no point in providing examples of characteristic words and expressions any more, because TheShen/Tommy393 simply replies by using the same expressions, in open defiance.
The anonymity provided by the internet is what damns it, facilitating fraud and all kinds of antisocial behaviour, such as that displayed by TheShen /Tommy393.
I don't know whether you heard of the case of a woman who persecuted the McCanns online.
Her true identity somehow came to light, she received a visit from a journalist, and she subsequently committed suicide.
TheShen does not strike me as the suicidal type, but being exposed in public (and I know he would make something out of that expression) would be his undoing.

Wishing you all the best.
LW.

poortiming have a read of posts from Saturday evening onwards particularly LONGWAIT's and ABATT1. Seems Tommy has been ousted and outed as a Jekyll & Hyde personality.

(Cyril2)

Thanks for the reply Cyril. I have Longwait filtered as I'm not interested in his sleuthing so missed the Saturday night saga.

(poortiming)

That's a rather perceptive observation, Cyril.
I was thinking along the same lines yesterday.
It isn't just that TheShen / Tommy393 has opened multiple accounts - about 60 at the latest count on the two forums - but that the accounts have different personalities, sometimes very different.
That's why Abatt was sceptical about my identifications.

You, Abatt, MadCrann, and I exchanged views about multiple accounts, with particular reference to Tommy393, who has been banned, and also TheShen, who has been banned.

And what was poortiming's reaction?
He filtered me.

Now, that IS a strange reaction.

Take a look at the other forum (I was looking recently at SOU) and almost every poster there is an alias of TheShen .
It's gradually happening on SOU over here too.
If that happens, you may as well stop posting comments.

I did find something else: on 06 Mar 2019 09:21, graybird, under the heading jtinv, wrote:
'you say im clueless'

'clueless' has been used by TheShen and five aliases of his.
I wonder whether jtinv is an abbreviation for the name of a poster.

I still think that Tommy393 was banned because of using 'paid shill' about Malcy - because he used it shortly before he was banned.
If you are correct that he had used it before, then maybe the administrators decided enough was enough.

Well, Abatt, I'm sure Tommy393 was TheShen because not only did they both use the insult 'paid shill' but they also used 'clowns' as an insult.

Both MadCrann and I noticed graybird's peculiar punctuation, which is characteristic of TheShen and wolfson and many other aliases of TheShen.

Graybird used 'muppet' as a pejorative - one of 13 members who have used it and been identified as aliases of TheShen.
He is also one of 14 members who used 'sub' followed by a share price - in his case sub 60p, sub 25p, and sub 20p - and they have all been identified as aliases of TheShen.
ranger4 (sub 50p), LuckCounts and StanleyPro (both sub 350p) are three others.
graybird, ranger4, LuckCounts and StanleyPro have all used 'muppet' and 'sub' followed by a share price, which means:

ranger4 = LuckCounts = StanleyPro = graybird

I cannot think of anyone other than TheShen who would pose as a Hungarian who is having problems with his written English.

Before you reply, ps: you may as well know that goza172 is TheShen.
I have just read through his past posts and there is no doubt about it.
As I said, this forum is being taken over by TheShen.

By the way, although I said previously that I couldn't tell from Wolfson's three remaining posts whether he was TheShen, I did notice that he had the same peculiar punctuation as Graybird and many other aliases of TheShen.

It's strange that you and I have noticed this peculiarity, but not many others have!

Yes, MadCrann - the spaces are often the first clue.

Who was Pink Penelope?

Yes, Abatt, I can explain that, although I never reported Tommy393 to the administrators.
Tommy393 accused Malcy of being a 'paid shill' for JOG.
It's nice to know that the administrators won't stand for libel, although when TheShen accused me of the same thing, they took no action.
As for graybird: as I pointed out, MadCrann once wrote to him, apparently in reference to his acrimonious exchanges with Tommy393:
'For the record Wolfson also had the same pattern and you appeared to over exaggeratedly hate each other.'
That is a characteristic of TheShen - to create two posters who constantly argue with one another.
Another giveaway is that one of TheShen's characters, whom I outed long ago, is Wolfsonshaz on the other forum.
One can therefore deduce that TheShen = graybird = Tommy393 = Wolfson = wolfsonshaz.
There is something about TheShen's aliases' posts that immediately alerts one to the possibility that they are TheShen, and I haven't seen this characteristic in non-TheShen posters' writings.
Once I suspect a member of being TheShen, I read through his posts and nine times out of ten, before long I find a word or expression which is characteristic of him.
In graybird's case, those words are 'muppet' and 'sub 60p', 'sub 25p', and 'sub 20p'.
No less than 13 aliases of TheShen have used 'sub xp' instead of 'less than xp'.
You might like to take a look at my posts on SOU for the last three days to get a better idea of how I out TheShen's aliases.

Every forum you post in has similar accusations which on whole is pie in the sky.
(sharetrader123, 04 Dec 2021 08:19)

Thanks, SHARETRADER123, for confirming that SHARETRADER123 = TheShen.
SHARETRADER123, toroil, and Fardels Bear (on advfn) have all used the expression 'pie in the sky.'
Fardel's Bear and toroil had already been identified as aliases of TheShen, even before you used that expression.
TheShen is in the habit of outing himself, and that is what he did to toroil:

New poster toroil, first post ,has TheShen got a new pen pal???
(ThenShen, 29 Sep 2021 10:16)

No-one has so far denied the obvious fact that ThenShen, theshen, theshenagain, and theshenagainagain are all aliases of TheShen.

As I pointed out previously,
SHARETRADER123 and oilpimpdxb have both used the expression 'well put' and both mentioned vampires.
Big Brother8 and oilpimpdxb have both mentioned spanking.
SHARETRADER123 and Big Brother8 have both used the expression 'In [someone] we trust'.

For the benefit of new members,
SHARETRADER123 has used the following words or expressions:
CLUELESS (also used by TheShen, 1DAYMAYBE, p5tvr on LSE, and bones698 on advfn)
NUMPTIE (also used by TheShen, 1DAYMAYBE and p5tvr (advfn))
MUPPETS (also used by 1DAYMAYBE, ranger4, jtsouthern146, and bones698)
KNICKERS (also used by TheShen, ranger4, jtsouthern146, Bronxville, and rbonnier)
THE LADY DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH, METHINKS (also used by longwait on advfn).
As is well-known, TheShen stole my account name of seven years and uses it on advfn.

The evidence is overwhelming.
You have multiple accounts, including oilpimpdxb, p5tvr, 1DAYMAYBE, ranger4, toroil, Bronxville, and vampirekitten (who rbonnier has admitted is an alias of his) on LSE alone.

Every forum you post in has similar accusations which on whole is pie in the sky.
(sharetrader123, 04 Dec 2021 08:19)

Thanks, SHARETRADER123, for confirming that SHARETRADER123 = TheShen.
SHARETRADER123, toroil, and Fardels Bear (on advfn) have all used the expression 'pie in the sky.'
Fardel's Bear and toroil had already been identified as aliases of TheShen, even before you used that expression.
TheShen is in the habit of outing himself, and that is what he did to toroil:

New poster toroil, first post ,has TheShen got a new pen pal???
(ThenShen, 29 Sep 2021 10:16)

No-one has so far denied the obvious fact that ThenShen, theshen, theshenagain, and theshenagainagain are all aliases of TheShen.

As I pointed out previously,
SHARETRADER123 and oilpimpdxb have both used the expression 'well put' and both mentioned vampires.
Big Brother8 and oilpimpdxb have both mentioned spanking.
SHARETRADER123 and Big Brother8 have both used the expression 'In [someone] we trust'.

For the benefit of new members,
SHARETRADER123 has used the following words or expressions:
CLUELESS (also used by TheShen, 1DAYMAYBE, p5tvr on LSE, and bones698 on advfn)
NUMPTIE (also used by TheShen, 1DAYMAYBE and p5tvr (advfn))
MUPPETS (also used by 1DAYMAYBE, ranger4, jtsouthern146, and bones698)
KNICKERS (also used by TheShen, ranger4, jtsouthern146, Bronxville, and rbonnier)
THE LADY DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH, METHINKS (also used by longwait on advfn).
As is well-known, TheShen stole my account name of seven years and uses it on advfn.

The evidence is overwhelming.
You have multiple accounts, including oilpimpdxb, p5tvr, 1DAYMAYBE, ranger4, toroil, Bronxville, and vampirekitten (who rbonnier has admitted is an alias of his) on LSE alone.