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I'm gratified that you now accept that at least some of my 'equivalencies' are plausible, ps.
I regret to have to inform you, however, that over on SOU, where we have also exchanged greetings, not only is your adversary there - Sharetrader123 - really TheShen, but so too is oilpimpdxb.
Like TheShen, oilpimpdxb uses 'clowns' and 'turd' and he also uses the same 'timber' used by other aliases of TheShen .
rbonnier, catswhiskas, wolfsonshaz, chimpeska, and oilpimpdxb all use 'timber.'
Some coincidence?
That's not quite correct, ps.
ranger4 created a new thread with the title 'out' on 9 February 2018, containing the words, 'Best of luck to all pvr holders,' implying that he had sold all his shares.
Several months later, however, on 17 October, he was writing as though he was still a shareholder:
'Sp consolidating before next leg above 18p.' and
'16p hopefully now act as support.'
Just six days later, he had changed his mind yet again:
'i expect we could see further large declines for pvr'
Just a week later, he had changed his mind again:
'Profit taking after recent spike over now SP should start climbing back to retest recent resistance.'
Just six days later, on 7 November 2018, he announced that he had sold all his holdings in BIRG and reinvested in other companies, including PVR&LOGP!
One month later, on 10 December, he had changed his mind again:
'i now believe the likelyhood of barryroe getting the green light and goahead for development very slim.'
Nearly six months later, he told people not to waste their money on PVR and described it as a dead donkey, without however saying what he had done with his holding.
Three months later, he announced that he had lost a boatload by investing in PVR.
Eventually, he announced that he had sold 90% of his holding in late November 2020.
I will disregard your remark about hysteria, PS.
As far as the remarks about my being a believer in the company and having faith in the management are concerned, it's strange that it seems to have escaped people's notice that I have NOT said either that I am a believer or that I have faith in the management!
You seem to be submitting the fact that at one time 'ranger4 actually posted positively about PVR' as evidence that he cannot be TheShen.
That argument doesn't stand up.
ThenShen and p5tvr (on LSE) and TheShen againagain (on advfn) are all pro-PVR, whereas TheShen (on LSE), p5tvr (on advfn) and longwait (on advfn) are all vehemently anti-PVR, and have routinely subjected shareholders to verbal abuse of the crudest kind.
TheShen and p5tvr once had a conversation on this very forum which occupied 21 out of 23 consecutive posts.
The same person then created a new identity, ThenShen, to take the place of p5tvr and spar with TheShen.
I'm sorry if you can't see the truth when it stares you in the face and if you can't appreciate the value of literary criticism.
The evidence that that person has been using multiple accounts is overwhelming.
It used to be talked about quite casually on the other forum.
Indeed, a contributor to the other forum by the name of Zephra once came over here and pointed out that TheShen is the same person as bones 698.
When I then compared their comments, I noticed that both TheShen and bones698 have used the unusual expression 'sad really'.
If you think that's a coincidence, then that is really sad!
That same individual stole my username and used it on the other forum, posing as a woman investor in this company and implying that she was I from this forum.
Anyone can check these facts for himself.
I think that any objective observer would be impressed by the sheer number of examples I gave in my post of three days ago.
The probability that they could be explained away as coincidences is infinitesimally small.
You really are being 'led down the garden path' if you think that it's just a coincidence both that TheShen and ranger4 both used that expression and used imagery about dead ducks and dead horses.
Finally, your remark, 'the greater likelihood -- which you don't seem to have considered -- is that TheShen deliberately obfuscated by emulating other posters' misses the main point, which is that I have provided evidence of similarities between posters - more than 20 posters - and they are all linked.
Both vampirekitten and rbonnier have written, 'Man the lifeboats !'
with a space before the exclamation mark.
Both vampirekitten and rbonnier predicted that JOG would fall 'sub £1' within three days of each other.
Are you seriously suggesting that one of them copied off the other, quite apart from TheShen supposedly copying other peoples posts?
Don't you see how farfetched that is?
' pvr a dead entity'
(ranger4)
'Ranger4, you sound just like our ******ed entity who has thankfully vanished...
Why bother saying anything if ... you know ... Barryroe is a dead duck?'
(Manyana)
ranger4 sounds just like TheShen because he is TheShen.
He wrote 'dead entity' because, as I pointed out three days ago, he has repeatedly called Barryroe a 'dead duck' and TheShen provided a link to a picture of a duck being strangled.
Similarly, ranger4 has used the expression 'flogging a dead horse' and TheShen provided a link to an image of a man flogging a dead horse - again, in both cases the dead horse being PVR.
As I also pointed out, both TheShen and ranger4 have used the expression, 'led down the garden path' - insinuating that the directors of this company have been deliberately deceiving its investors.
I'm sorry to disappoint you Manyana, but TheShen is still on this forum.
If you take a look at the comments posted here on 2nd of August - the day that the share price peaked at 28.5 pence - there are dozens of comments and almost every one is favourable to the company and the share price.
Only one poster - harpmandoodle - expressed scepticism, and he was shot down:
'@harpmandoodle Are you a troll? Or do you just very low IQ?' (Wes_Sam)
'why keep asking the same question, and in a manner that suggests a deramping agenda.'(KeithOz)
There was great optimism:
'Nice 400k buy @ 28.25' (Nate-PI)
'Someone loading up...... lucky git' (bigbench)
[the mid price at that moment was 28.525 p, the very top]
'We've also had 13 x 100k buys, sometimes in v quick succession which suggests somebody else loading 100k at a time iceberg trades. I wonder if it's possible somebody knows something that we don't? It's positive no matter how you look at it.' (Nate-PI)
'those that want to de-risk are surely very few now' (wyndrum)
'i have no doubt there is a big fat buyer mopping these up sub 30... just annoyed its not me! ;-('
(bigbench)
' pile on the good news and we can go to the Moooooooon !' (Xerxes300)
'You could be right Xerses ... if there is an avalanche of demand it really could be quite something.' (wyndrum)
'sending the SP back up and beyond 30p.' (BigPlan)
'a small pull back to 27p might look to be on the cards' (wyndrum)
'. 27p may well have become the new support especially if we exceed 29p in next day or 2' (BigPlan)
'Just be patient, sit back and watch the SP tick up and up.' (TheGuvnor78)
Now there is great depression, apprehension about the company's future, and demoralisation on account of the collapse in the share price, with some investors complaining that they are nursing large losses, having piled in when the share price was high.
I've seen it all before - it happens regularly on AIM, and happened recently on AYM.
I suppose the most infamous case in recent years is Sound Energy, where people put in huge sums of money at inflated prices and the share price then fell by more than 99 percent from its peak.
I don't know what will happen with this company, but it looks to me like a very good buying opportunity - assuming the helium is actually there.
Unfortunately for most AIM investors, they will not buy when there's a good opportunity but will pile in when there's a bad opportunity.
You can't be serious, ps?
TheShen and Sharetrader123 - both of whom have clashed with you - use the insult 'numptie.'
Are you saying that that's a common expression?
Do you really imagine that on other boards here, people are using expressions like SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL (with the apostrophe missing) and 'led down the garden path' and just happen at the same time to be referring to the same company?
This is not about ranger4 and Mamms 'putting their commas in the same place or using a similar turn of phrase' to TheShen, ps.
Both TheShen and Mamms use the expression SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL
with the apostrophe missing.
Both TheShen and ranger4 have used the expression, 'led down the garden path'.
ranger4 used the expression 'flogging a dead horse' and TheShen provided a link to an image of a man flogging a dead horse.
TheShen posted a link to an image of a duck being strangled.
Ranger4 said repeatedly that the Barryroe project is a 'dead duck'.
ranger4 and Mamms have used the word 'muppet' pejoratively.
You may have noticed that with today's share price fall, ThenShen has gone quiet, whereas Mamms has reappeared after an absence of five months.
TheShen accused me of being a Nazi and accused me of being a 'shill', that is of being a confidence trickster, and of trying to trick others into buying PVR and LOGP shares so as to recover losses - and he's still here using his other aliases.
This is just a reminder - especially for the benefit of any new readers - that both ranger4 and Mamms are the same person as TheShen, who was recently and belatedly banned by the administrators after polluting this forum with 700 posts, which included links to a picture of excrement, a picture of a man strangling a duck, and a picture of a man flogging a dead horse.
He has created yet another profile - toroil - on London South East and yet another on advfn - theshenagainagain - which means that even after having had one of his identities banned, he still has at least 21 accounts between the two forums.
Your last post is one of the most idiotic ones I've ever read here - and that's saying something, when one takes into account some 700 posts by that late-departed sociopath TheShen.
What you call 'purile (sic) details' is in fact a detailed literary analysis, which proves beyond doubt the identities of TheShen's other aliases.
Expecting someone like you to appreciate it would be like throwing pearls before swine.
Someone here said that we should have accepted a derisory offer for the whole company amounting to something like 1.5 pence per share or less - simply because the share price was falling.
That was the time to buy.
'BEST OF LUCK TO ALL LONG TERMERS'.
Both theshen (advfn) and p5tvr (LSE) wrote on the same day: 'Best of luck to all long termers'.
CLUELESS
TheShen, p5tvr, and Sharetrader123, on LSE, and bones698 have called investors 'clueless'.
SAD REALLY
Both TheShen and bones698 have used the unusual expression 'sad really'.
NUMPTIE
TheShen, Sharetrader123 and p5tvr (advfn) use the unusual insult, 'numptie.'
FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE
ranger4, rbonnier, and longwait (on advfn) have used the expression 'flogging a dead horse' and TheShen provided a link to an image of a man flogging a dead horse.
IN THEIR RIGHT MIND
TheShen, mrsimmons and catswhiskas have used the words 'nobody/no one/who in their right mind'.
DEAD DUCK
TheShen posted a link to an image of a duck being strangled.
Ranger4 and p5tvr (advfn) said that the Barryroe project is a 'dead duck'.
MAN THE LIFEBOATS!
Both vampirekitten and rbonnier have written, 'Man the lifeboats !'
with a space before the exclamation mark.
sub £1
Both vampirekitten and rbonnier predicted that JOG would fall 'sub £1' within three days of each other.
LED DOWN THE GARDEN PATH
Both TheShen and ranger4 have used the expression, 'led down the garden path'.
MUPPETS
ranger4, Sharetrader123, sylviasmother, Mamms, and bones698 have all used the word 'muppet' pejoratively.
TIMBER
rbonnier, catswhiskas and wolfsonshaz all use the scare word 'Timber' followed by several exclamation marks to denote a supposedly-collapsing share price; chimpeska uses it too, but with numerous Is instead of !s.
catswhiskas and rbonnier have both put four exclamation marks after 'Timber'.
SELL SELL SELL
Both TheShen and catswhiskas write SELL, SELL, SELL, to panic investors, TheShen using it five times in succession about LOGP (on 6 September 2021, five weeks before his profile was removed), and catswhiskas three times in succession about JOG.
SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL
Both TheShen and Mamms use this expression, with the apostrophe missing.
Thought not ! . (p5tvr on PVR on LSE)
Scare Tactics I think not . (vampirekitten on JOG on LSE)
Yeah, I thought not! :) (TheShen on PVR on LSE)
I think not! (TheShen on PVR on LSE)
Notice the space before the full-stop used by both vampirekitten and p5tvr, and the 'thought not' followed by an exclamation mark, used by both TheShen and p5tvr.
The person who called himself TheShen has been operating 20 accounts between London South East and advfn, as follows:
On LSE:
TheShen = p5tvr = ranger4 = vampirekitten = sylviasmother = Sharetrader123 = ThenShen = Mamms
On advfn:
theshen = p5tvr = longwait = bones698 = papillon = mrstevens = rbonnier = catswhiskas = leewain = jtsouthern146 = wolfsonshaz = chimpeska
I told the administrators that I would not comment again here until TheShen were removed.
The last time I reported any posts by him was on 31st May:
'The last nine posts here are all by the same person, and in this post he admits it by accusing himself of talking to himself.'
Eight of the nine posts were removed the following morning - 1 June 2021.
Here are some excerpts from reports which i sent to the administrators:
'Is it permitted for a member to compare another member [me] with Hitler, Goebbels 'and his kind' and then post his [my] entire complaint about being abused in that way, adding the comment, 'What a big bloody baby!!'?
This forum is degenerating into anything but a discussion of PVR and its prospects and has become a vehicle for personal abuse.'
'Would all members who object to TheShen's disgusting allegations that I am a stooge of LOGP, and that I am trying to inflate the share price in order to sell my shares, join me in calling for his removal.
If you object to his use of a four-letter word to describe the company, again please ask the administrators finally and belatedly to remove him.'
'This clip posted by TheShen sums up well what you - the administrators - have allowed this forum to become.
First, you permitted him to get away with calling this company - PVR - a four-letter word meaning excrement, and now he is posting a clip actually showing excrement.'
'I have noticed that from time to time you remove posts that point out his use of multiple personalities, even though in one case, his conversation with himself occupied 21 out of 23 consecutive posts. I wasn't aware that the rules permit multiple accounts; it seems that pointing out multiple accounts is considered more serious than operating them.'
'14 out of the last 16 posts were posted by the same person - 11 by TheShen, 2 by p5tvr, and one by ranger4, who are one and the same person.
He is still providing links to idiotic images, and one of his links today insinuates that investors in this company are mentally subnormal.'
TheShen repeatedly accused me of being a 'shill', i.e. 'an accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others.'
The administrators allowed him to get away with it, as well as with comparing me with Nazis.
They allowed him to take over the forum and should hang their heads in shame that they took this long to remove him.
Hi Des.
I thought the same thing when I bought shares in a company listed on both AIM and Irish exchanges seven years ago, but was charged one percent, even though the transaction was on AIM.
When I next bought the same company's shares a few years later, I was not charged stamp duty, and have never been charged stamp duty since, but don't know why.
Now I'm puzzled as to why stamp duty is being applied in the case you mention.
Do you have any thoughts, DU, on the doubts expressed during the discussion at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3-_uQXbzrw
about JOG's estimated 54 percent recovery rate at Buchan?
I quote from about 50:00 on the recording:
'The resource base calculations rely on JOG increasing the recovery factor from Buchan to 54 percent, the feasible maximum.
It would appear that there is substantial downside risk to their resource estimates.'
It was clear that there was strong support at about 3.5p and resistance at about 4p, so it could finally be taking off.
Would all members who object to TheShen's disgusting allegations that I am a stooge of LOGP, and that I am trying to inflate the share price in order to sell my shares, join me in calling for his removal.
If you object to his use of a four-letter word to describe the company, again please ask the administrators finally and belatedly to remove him.
If you take a look at his recent and even not so recent posts on PVR, and find them as nauseating as I find them, please join me in reporting his posts there too.
You highlight the fact that the share price is 3.4p, but you predicted it would by now have fallen to less than 1p:
'06 Apr 2021 16:18
[The share price is] Currently 3.65p, but if you wait a few weeks until the deal falls through (Again) you will be able to pick up as many as you want sub 1p.
I honestly can't think of a quicker way to lose money other than burning it.'
(TheShen)
'07 Apr 2021 18:18
and the more important fact that nobody in their right mind wants to buy this junk.'
(TheShen)
Obviously, Larry Goodman disagrees with you threefold: he is in his right mind, he doesn't view PVR stock as junk, and he does want to buy it.
You had a post removed recently because of its extremely vulgar and offensive language, directed at me.
You are posting derogatory comments about PVR daily on another forum, using my screen name here, which I have been using since 2014.
You said a few days ago that you would be away for a few months, but your sociopathic tendencies are obviously too strong, so you came back to libel me, and once again use a four-letter word to describe the company.
You had a crude post removed recently, but it's high time the administrators removed you altogether from both forums, bones698/p5tvr/p5tvr/TheShen/theshen/longwait/vampirekitten.