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Here apparently was your reason for todays fall on the airline sector.

https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/news/shares/ftse-falls-but-is-off-its-lows-as-covid-transmission-drops-in-the-uk

Here is an updated position from Spain's Tourism Minister. Worth reading the full article if you can get access.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/22/travel-news-covid-restrictions-border-rules-uk-tests-holiday/

Daggermal I think things might end up on Monday. The vaccination programme seems to be rolling out well with over 400,000 vaccinated yesterday and the R-rate seems to be falling nicely, although there is no room for complacency.

Moreover though

Here apparently was your reason for todays fall on the airline sector.

https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/news/shares/ftse-falls-but-is-off-its-lows-as-covid-transmission-drops-in-the-uk

Here is an updated position from Spain's Tourism Minister. Worth reading the full article if you can get access.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/22/travel-news-covid-restrictions-border-rules-uk-tests-holiday/

It should be an interesting Monday. Worth reading the full article if you can get a hold of it.

"Spain's tourism minister has said the country wants to "reactivate tourism" as soon as possible, clarifying reports that it may not full reopen to holidaymakers until after summer."

"We hope that at the end of spring and especially during the summer, international travel will resume and travellers will choose Spain as their destination."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/22/travel-news-covid-restrictions-border-rules-uk-tests-holiday/

Here was the reason for todays drop across the full airline sector. One share goy hit by about 10% more than the others.

https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/news/shares/ftse-falls-but-is-off-its-lows-as-covid-transmission-drops-in-the-uk

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-holidays-to-spain-could-be-delayed-until-end-of-summer-12195251

Thanks sharefall I wasn't aware of that.

whatness, you have to let the time lag between people getting the vaccine and then gaining immunity work its way through. About 2 to 3 weeks. Then more immunity comes with the 2nd jab.

For the airline industry there was clarificatioon today that the next review is the 15th Feb when all should be better informed.

Today was a reaction to the PM'snow dated comments about Lockdown stretching into summer.

In tonights briefing he qualified that. Things will be reviewed on the 15th Feb.

Reference variants they were quite clear

"Both vaccines remain effective against the Old and New variant." SA and Brazilian variants are being monitored and evaluated across the globe.

The share price goes where the algorythms wish it to go. Today they wished it between 10 and 14% less than all its other airline compatriots and got the accompanying volume.

Hi Fun Investor,

If you have 1000 people and on the one hand 10 people die and that sadly goes up to 13 the next day. The per 1000 people that is an increase of 3 which is 0.3% of the 1000. If per 1000 it was to go up by 30% then that would mena an increase of 300. It is actually an insignificant amount. Podcast gets it.

Not in a sample population of 1000.

In 100 it would be a 3% increase
In 1000 it is 0.3% of an increase

It should be measured with relevance to the total population used. In this case 1000.

Not in a sample population of 1000.

In 100 it would be a 3% increase
In 1000 it is 0.3% of an increase

It should be measured with relevance to the total population used. In this case 1000.

For those who didn't get time to watch it here are the main Key Points from Tonight's Government Briefing. No mention of present Lockdown extending to the summer. Next review -15th Feb.

Approx 1 in 10 of the population now 1st vaccinated.
4.4 Million now vaccinated in total
Record 400,000 in one day
1401 deaths.
Thoughts are that there will be more deaths for a little while to come, as predicted.

71% of over 80s vaccinated
2/3 of Care Home residents vaccinated
Remain on track for 1st 4 Cohorts to be vaccinated by Mid-Feb.

Both vaccines remain effective against the Old and New variant.

Those infected previously have cover against the new variants as well – believed 5 months
Kent mutation spreads between 30% and 70% more easily.
Some evidence that the new variant may increase mortality. Example given of a man in his 60’s and put it in context that it might mean 13 deaths in 1,000 as opposed to 10 in 1000.
(That means it is 0.3% more deadly - not 30%)

Prime Minister questioned on Timing of Lifting Lockdown Measures.
Things would be reviewed on the 15th February.
Reference conditions for an Unlock he cited:
Vaccinations continuing to rollout well.
No variant shocks,
Reduce things to a level where it cannot surge from again.
Will continuously to constantly review– but will only Unlock again safely and cautiously.
First thing they wish to reopen is schools.
Stated that we will have to live with CV for some time to come, but controlled.
New medicines also coming along.
As stated it will get reviewed on the 15th February and media advised not get hooked up on specific dates.

Chris Witty asked reference only 1 jab and having to wait 12 weeks for the second jab. Short answer (Again) Better to have twice as many getting a relatively high level of protection off 1 jab than half without.
Still avoid contact once you have the 1st vaccination as 1 in 55 (1 in 35 in London) are belied to have Covid19. 2 or 3 weeks for vaccine to take effect and then further increase immunity over time.

Asked about Peaks:
Peak of Infections. Overall down but still at a precarious level. 20 to 30 year olds an exception.
Hospitalisations broadly flat with a few exceptions
Deaths – as above more expected

Patrick Vallance asked about the South African variant and how much was in the UK. Stated between 44 and 71 cases as an upper limit. NO evidence that SA or Brazilian have greater transmission effects than what is already here. No transmission advantage. Numerous studies ongoing and too early to draw conclusions.

Constant Repeated Reminders throughout.

Much more to do
Get the Jab if the letter comes through.
Vaccinate, vaccinate.
Important all follow and stick to the rules.
Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.

For those who didn't get time to watch it here are the main Key Points from Tonight's Government Briefing. No mention of present Lockdown extending to the summer. Next review -15th Feb.

Approx 1 in 10 of the population now 1st vaccinated.
4.4 Million now vaccinated in total
Record 400,000 in one day
1401 deaths.
Thoughts are that there will be more deaths for a little while to come, as predicted.

71% of over 80s vaccinated
2/3 of Care Home residents vaccinated
Remain on track for 1st 4 Cohorts to be vaccinated by Mid-Feb.

Both vaccines remain effective against the Old and New variant.

Those infected previously have cover against the new variants as well – believed 5 months
Kent mutation spreads between 30% and 70% more easily.
Some evidence that the new variant may increase mortality. Example given of a man in his 60’s and put it in context that it might mean 13 deaths in 1,000 as opposed to 10 in 1000.
(That means it is 0.3% more deadly - not 30%)

Prime Minister questioned on Timing of Lifting Lockdown Measures.
Things would be reviewed on the 15th February.
Reference conditions for an Unlock he cited:
Vaccinations continuing to rollout well.
No variant shocks,
Reduce things to a level where it cannot surge from again.
Will continuously to constantly review– but will only Unlock again safely and cautiously.
First thing they wish to reopen is schools.
Stated that we will have to live with CV for some time to come, but controlled.
New medicines also coming along.
As stated it will get reviewed on the 15th February and media advised not get hooked up on specific dates.

Chris Witty asked reference only 1 jab and having to wait 12 weeks for the second jab. Short answer (Again) Better to have twice as many getting a relatively high level of protection off 1 jab than half without.
Still avoid contact once you have the 1st vaccination as 1 in 55 (1 in 35 in London) are belied to have Covid19. 2 or 3 weeks for vaccine to take effect and then further increase immunity over time.

Asked about Peaks:
Peak of Infections. Overall down but still at a precarious level. 20 to 30 year olds an exception.
Hospitalisations broadly flat with a few exceptions
Deaths – as above more expected

Patrick Vallance asked about the South African variant and how much was in the UK. Stated between 44 and 71 cases as an upper limit. NO evidence that SA or Brazilian have greater transmission effects than what is already here. No transmission advantage. Numerous studies ongoing and too early to draw conclusions.

Constant Repeated Reminders throughout.

Much more to do
Get the Jab if the letter comes through.
Vaccinate, vaccinate.
Important all follow and stick to the rules.
Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.

For those who didn't get time to watch it here are the main Key Points from Tonight's Government Briefing. No mention of present Lockdown extending to the summer. Next review -15th Feb.

Approx 1 in 10 of the population now 1st vaccinated.
4.4 Million now vaccinated in total
Record 400,000 in one day
1401 deaths.
Thoughts are that there will be more deaths for a little while to come, as predicted.

71% of over 80s vaccinated
2/3 of Care Home residents vaccinated
Remain on track for 1st 4 Cohorts to be vaccinated by Mid-Feb.

Both vaccines remain effective against the Old and New variant.

Those infected previously have cover against the new variants as well – believed 5 months
Kent mutation spreads between 30% and 70% more easily.
Some evidence that the new variant may increase mortality. Example given of a man in his 60’s and put it in context that it might mean 13 deaths in 1,000 as opposed to 10 in 1000.
(That means it is 0.3% more deadly - not 30%)

Prime Minister questioned on Timing of Lifting Lockdown Measures.
Things would be reviewed on the 15th February.
Reference conditions for an Unlock he cited:
Vaccinations continuing to rollout well.
No variant shocks,
Reduce things to a level where it cannot surge from again.
Will continuously to constantly review– but will only Unlock again safely and cautiously.
First thing they wish to reopen is schools.
Stated that we will have to live with CV for some time to come, but controlled.
New medicines also coming along.
As stated it will get reviewed on the 15th February and media advised not get hooked up on specific dates.

Chris Witty asked reference only 1 jab and having to wait 12 weeks for the second jab. Short answer (Again) Better to have twice as many getting a relatively high level of protection off 1 jab than half without.
Still avoid contact once you have the 1st vaccination as 1 in 55 (1 in 35 in London) are belied to have Covid19. 2 or 3 weeks for vaccine to take effect and then further increase immunity over time.

Asked about Peaks:
Peak of Infections. Overall down but still at a precarious level. 20 to 30 year olds an exception.
Hospitalisations broadly flat with a few exceptions
Deaths – as above more expected

Patrick Vallance asked about the South African variant and how much was in the UK. Stated between 44 and 71 cases as an upper limit. NO evidence that SA or Brazilian have greater transmission effects than what is already here. No transmission advantage. Numerous studies ongoing and too early to draw conclusions.

Constant Repeated Reminders throughout.

Much more to do
Get the Jab if the letter comes through.
Vaccinate, vaccinate.
Important all follow and stick to the rules.
Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.

For those who didn't get time to watch it here are the main Key Points from Tonight's Government Briefing. No mention of present Lockdown extending to the summer. Next review is actually on the 15th Feb.

Approx 1 in 10 of the population now 1st vaccinated.
4.4 Million now vaccinated in total
Record 400,000 in one day
1401 deaths.
Thoughts are that there will be more deaths for a little while to come, as predicted.

71% of over 80s vaccinated
2/3 of Care Home residents vaccinated
Remain on track for 1st 4 Cohorts to be vaccinated by Mid-Feb.

Both vaccines remain effective against the Old and New variant.

Those infected previously have cover against the new variants as well – believed 5 months
Kent mutation spreads between 30% and 70% more easily.
Some evidence that the new variant may increase mortality. Example given of a man in his 60’s and put it in context that it might mean 13 deaths in 1,000 as opposed to 10 in 1000.
(That means it is 0.3% more deadly - not 30%)

Prime Minister questioned on Timing of Lifting Lockdown Measures.
Things would be reviewed on the 15th February.
Reference conditions for an Unlock he cited:
Vaccinations continuing to rollout well.
No variant shocks,
Reduce things to a level where it cannot surge from again.
Will continuously to constantly review– but will only Unlock again safely and cautiously.
First thing they wish to reopen is schools.
Stated that we will have to live with CV for some time to come, but controlled.
New medicines also coming along.
As stated it will get reviewed on the 15th February and media advised not get hooked up on specific dates.

Chris Witty asked reference only 1 jab and having to wait 12 weeks for the second jab. Short answer (Again) Better to have twice as many getting a relatively high level of protection off 1 jab than half without.
Still avoid contact once you have the 1st vaccination as 1 in 55 (1 in 35 in London) are belied to have Covid19. 2 or 3 weeks for vaccine to take effect and then further increase immunity over time.

Asked about Peaks:
Peak of Infections. Overall down but still at a precarious level. 20 to 30 year olds an exception.
Hospitalisations broadly flat with a few exceptions
Deaths – as above more expected

Patrick Vallance asked about the South African variant and how much was in the UK. Stated between 44 and 71 cases as an upper limit. NO evidence that SA or Brazilian have greater transmission effects than what is already here. No transmission advantage. Numerous studies ongoing and too early to draw conclusions.

Constant Repeated Reminders throughout.

Much more to do
Get the Jab if the letter comes through.
Vaccinate, vaccinate.
Important all follow and stick to the rules.
Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.

For those who didn't get time to watch it here are the main Key Points from Tonight's Government Briefing. No mention of present Lockdown extending to the summer. Next review -15th Feb.

Approx 1 in 10 of the population now 1st vaccinated.
4.4 Million now vaccinated in total
Record 400,000 in one day
1401 deaths.
Thoughts are that there will be more deaths for a little while to come, as predicted.

71% of over 80s vaccinated
2/3 of Care Home residents vaccinated
Remain on track for 1st 4 Cohorts to be vaccinated by Mid-Feb.

Both vaccines remain effective against the Old and New variant.

Those infected previously have cover against the new variants as well – believed 5 months
Kent mutation spreads between 30% and 70% more easily.
Some evidence that the new variant may increase mortality. Example given of a man in his 60’s and put it in context that it might mean 13 deaths in 1,000 as opposed to 10 in 1000.
(That means it is 0.3% more deadly - not 30%)

Prime Minister questioned on Timing of Lifting Lockdown Measures.
Things would be reviewed on the 15th February.
Reference conditions for an Unlock he cited:
Vaccinations continuing to rollout well.
No variant shocks,
Reduce things to a level where it cannot surge from again.
Will continuously to constantly review– but will only Unlock again safely and cautiously.
First thing they wish to reopen is schools.
Stated that we will have to live with CV for some time to come, but controlled.
New medicines also coming along.
As stated it will get reviewed on the 15th February and media advised not get hooked up on specific dates.

Chris Witty asked reference only 1 jab and having to wait 12 weeks for the second jab. Short answer (Again) Better to have twice as many getting a relatively high level of protection off 1 jab than half without.
Still avoid contact once you have the 1st vaccination as 1 in 55 (1 in 35 in London) are belied to have Covid19. 2 or 3 weeks for vaccine to take effect and then further increase immunity over time.

Asked about Peaks:
Peak of Infections. Overall down but still at a precarious level. 20 to 30 year olds an exception.
Hospitalisations broadly flat with a few exceptions
Deaths – as above more expected

Patrick Vallance asked about the South African variant and how much was in the UK. Stated between 44 and 71 cases as an upper limit. NO evidence that SA or Brazilian have greater transmission effects than what is already here. No transmission advantage. Numerous studies ongoing and too early to draw conclusions.

Constant Repeated Reminders throughout.

Much more to do
Get the Jab if the letter comes through.
Vaccinate, vaccinate.
Important all follow and stick to the rules.
Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.

Key Points from Tonights Briefing.

Approx 1 in 10 of the population now 1st vaccinated.
4.4 Million now vaccinated in total
Record 400,000 in one day
1401 deaths.
Thoughts are that there will be more deaths for a little while to come, as predicted.

71% of over 80s vaccinated
2/3 of Care Home residents vaccinated
Remain on track for 1st 4 Cohorts to be vaccinated by Mid-Feb.

Both vaccines remain effective against the Old and New variant.

Those infected previously have cover against the new variants as well – believed 5 months
Kent mutation spreads between 30% and 70% more easily.
Some evidence that the new variant may increase mortality. Example given of a man in his 60’s and put it in context that it might mean 13 deaths in 1,000 as opposed to 10 in 1000.
(That means it is 0.3% more deadly - not 30%)

Prime Minister questioned on Timing of Lifting Lockdown Measures.
Things would be reviewed on the 15th February.
Reference conditions for an Unlock he cited:
Vaccinations continuing to rollout well.
No variant shocks,
Reduce things to a level where it cannot surge from again.
Will continuously to constantly review– but will only Unlock again safely and cautiously.
First thing they wish to reopen is schools.
Stated that we will have to live with CV for some time to come, but controlled.
New medicines also coming along.
As stated it will get reviewed on the 15th February and media advised not get hooked up on specific dates.

Chris Witty asked reference only 1 jab and having to wait 12 weeks for the second jab. Short answer (Again) Better to have twice as many getting a relatively high level of protection off 1 jab than half without.
Still avoid contact once you have the 1st vaccination as 1 in 55 (1 in 35 in London) are belied to have Covid19. 2 or 3 weeks for vaccine to take effect and then further increase immunity over time.

Asked about Peaks:
Peak of Infections. Overall down but still at a precarious level. 20 to 30 year olds an exception.
Hospitalisations broadly flat with a few exceptions
Deaths – as above more expected

Patrick Vallance asked about the South African variant and how much was in the UK. Stated between 44 and 71 cases as an upper limit. NO evidence that SA or Brazilian have greater transmission effects than what is already here. No transmission advantage. Numerous studies ongoing and too early to draw conclusions.

Constant Repeated Reminders throughout.

Much more to do
Get the Jab if the letter comes through.
Vaccinate, vaccinate.
Important all follow and stick to the rules.
Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.

Vaccinations
1st Vaccinations today have just reached another all time high (Again) - 409,995 (Applies to the 21st Jan as one day behind)

The trend on Infections is still Down. Slight uptick today.
The Hospitalisations showing a slight uptick from yesterday
The death rate is up but still far short of the 1820 death peak of a few days ago. (1401 today)

The R-rate which is the rate of transmission is DOWN to 0.8 to 1.0. Anything under 1 being good.

Things imho are moving in the right direction.

Prime Minister up at 5p.m. (Misinformed by the newsreader).

Now there's a patronising post if ever I have seen one.

Just to be clear I have never stated that there will not be blips along the way and it is the combined effects of both Lockdown and Vaccines that will drop the numbers and lead to easing of restrictions and reopenings. Nobody either is pretending that with vaccine effects their will be a time lag in the vaccine building up immunity.

However let me just clarify your post.

Vaccinations
1st Vaccinations today have just reached another all time high (Again) - 409,995

The trend on Infections is still Down
The Hospitalisations are UP today from yesterday
The death rate is up but is still far short of the 1820 death peak of a few days ago. (1401 today)

The R-rate which is the rate of transmission is DOWN to 0.8 to 1.0. Anything under 1 being good.

Things are moving in the right direction.

Easyjet - Down 3.54%
Jet2 - Down 7.13%
IAG - Down 3.15%

TUI - Down 16.23%

It'll get back to over £4.00 before it gets anywhere near your buy in price. I wish you well with your wait. It might be for a considerably long time.

Most countries closed their borders to the Uk about a month back after the Kent mutation but now we appear to be getting things under control again. It will only take 1 travel corridor reopening...