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bb...one thing you have clearly demonstrated on this board is your lack of understanding of how the world goes around. You have a very difficult relationship with the truth and have been caught lying through your teeth on numerous occasions. I don't want to list those here but you might force me to one day!

CINE is dead...just not broke yet!

All CINE investors should watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIty7vFwVYM

Agaisnt Libya UK's David Cameron was in the vangauard leading the charge against , largely to please Saudi king who had a dislike for Ghaddaffi as he was more popular on the Arab streets than any other Arab leader. Cameron was trying desperately to build his nest egg when he decides to leave office, and this again showed when King Abdullah died in 2015, when Cameron shot off to attend his funeral the very next day and flew Union Jack at half mast in Downing Street, even though Saudi rulers were brutal dictators. After Cameron left office he joined Greensill and whisked him off to Saudi Arabia to sign them on for a business project. Saudis owed Cameron a favour for removing Ghaddaffi. Cameron managed to rope in the Saudis to join the Greensill project in which Cameron stood to eventual make up to $280m. The whole thing unfloded and Greensill collapsed as you may be aware, and Cameron did make money but was left red faced. Cameron learned from Blair who made money off Arabs and Israel on leaving office, cashing in on his role in removing Saddam who again was more popular on Arab 'streets' than any other leader at the time. It is called corruption and at the very highest level. People of Libya, people of Iraq and dead and maimed British soldiers paid the price, and Cameron and Blair were left with pockets bulging with cash.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9417415/David-Cameron-camped-Saudi-Crown-Prince-Mohammed-Bin-Salman-businessman-Lex-Greensill.html

bb...no evidence Libyan regime breached resolution passed in 1973, in the same way no evidence Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. WMD's as they became known turned out to be just Words of Mass Deception.

bb........Libya
United Kingdom Parliament Investigation
An in depth investigation into the Libyan intervention and its aftermath was conducted by the U.K. Parliament's House of Commons' cross-party Foreign Affairs Committee, the final conclusions of which were released on 14 September 2016 in a report titled Libya: Examination of intervention and collapse and the UK's future policy options. The Foreign Affairs Select Committee saw no evidence that the UK Government carried out a proper analysis of the nature of the rebellion in Libya and it "selectively took elements of Muammar Gaddafi's rhetoric at face value; and it failed to identify the militant Islamist extremist element in the rebellion. UK strategy was founded on erroneous assumptions and an incomplete understanding of the evidence".[239] The report was strongly critical of the British government's role in the intervention.[240][241] The report concluded that the government "failed to identify that the threat to civilians was overstated and that the rebels included a significant Islamist element."[242] In particular, the committee concluded that Gaddafi was not planning to massacre civilians, and that reports to the contrary were propagated by rebels and Western governments

@poorinvestor...only trying to save you from yourself

You are totally deluded thinking it is a 50/50 bet. It's 100/0 bet against shareholders who holds on to the finish.

Thank you Hexam, point I've been banging about for a while now. Debt rises each day passes by. I know shareholders talk positive and believing/hoping for a big pay day. I wonder how they would react if the law allowed creditors to go after shareholders who held onto shares knowing company was trading whilst being insolvent. Bet they'd be out of CINE faster tha bullett out of a gun!

bb...you have clearly demonstrated how little you know about anything. Iraq mission was the 'coalition of the willing' with France, Germany and just about everyone else was against it. The Libya mission did not even go through UN, let alone having UN support with just 3 countries involved; France and UK did the bombing whilst US providing logistics.
Get your facts right before spouting out C__P EVERY SINGLE TIME.

@Bramall...I agree with you. I've always held the view that to get good government and uphold proper democracy and rule of law we need to take outside money out from politics. We should pay lot more to the politicians to attract talent and fund political parties from the centre using share of the vote gained at previous election for allocation.

@BSR...I wrote to Freedom Finance Europe and I got the following reply:

From: kyc (freedomprime.co.uk)
To: You

Hello,
Thank you for reaching out to us.
We are currently in the process of establishing a separate legal entity, dedicated to the support and service of UK clients.
Therefore, we are not able to open new accounts for UK Tax residents at this moment.
As soon as the process is complete, we will be able to continue our full scope of services.
Generally speaking, yes, Freedom Finance clients have access to the AIX.
For detailed information about trading fees, please refer to our free schedule: https://freedomfinance.eu/upload/docs/2022/Appendix_11_to_General_Rules_(FEES_Schedule).pdf

Thank you very much for your interest.

@chippyjo...I'm reading India does not want UK aid as it has nearly $400bn in central coffers alone and has a space program. But the guilt factor on the part of UK leeps the aid going. It was bb who raised issue of Russia paying reparations to Ukraine; surely one cannot have one rule for US Uk and nother one for Russia. On the other hand, Germany have risen up to the challenge and have paid reparations in a different form eg. to Namimbia and Israel.

Apparently I've heard, UK saying sorry to India for 250 years of rule and loot would cost UK over £3 trillion.

Further...Amazon can find million other businesses where it can write off against tax, so CINE will be competing against them. I can assure you CINE is no way near top in Amazon's shopping list.

@waffenBurret...Amazon is not going to be paying anywhere near $6bn which is what CINE owes it's creditors alone. IMO if Amazon does buy a cinema chain, it will not just be solely to make profit but a bit of vanity involved in self promotion to try wash off the ill gotten gains they've sponged off the hard working people in the west. They have dodged tax from the start and rendered tax paying businesses in our high street and alike worthless eg. I know someone working in the well known dept store who told me "People frequently comes to my store, tries things out and then asks me to match Amazon in price." Amazon uses all of us to further their ill gotten gains.
They take our business cos they have cost advanatage like no taxes
They pay lower salaries so we have to pay more taxes to provide in work benefits to their staff
They use high street infrastructure which people use and then go away and order from Amazon
Over years they have derived economies of scale and uses power to suppress competition; sellers on Amazon will tell you. Amazon is a very unethical business.

Russia will not be paying any reparations although they will voluntarily contribute towards Ukraine rebuilding. When has US UK paid any reparations for it's ilegal invasions; eg. they set Iraq and Libya back to the stone age and Britain have looted and destroyed some countries in its past empire like India and haven't yet said sorry...saying sorry triggers compensation. Recently Germany have said sorry to Namibia and agreed to pay compensation, they have paid over €40bn to Israel since World War 2. You can't have one rule for us and another rule for everyone else.

@Westy54...most definitely sanctions won't get lifted as soon as war ends, but it will stop any further sanctions been applied and POLY can live with that in the short term and shareholders will accept that knowing forgoing dividends will allow POLY to invest more and become debt free, and so when sanctions go eventually, the company can turn on the divi taps. Think sp will recover significantly on war ending and despite the current sanctions remaining in place. And if POLY chooses to redom to Kaz once peace agreed, then that would remove all obstacles to having secondary GDR listing on LSE despite original sanctions remaining on the books.

Amazon is dodging tax so how is it going to pay anything near whereby CINE creditors are repaid and more on top for shareholders.
Can't stop you halucinating though.................

@maidit308...wis you best of luck with that.
The same fate awaits at some future date for other cinema chains. AMC in US (Odeon in UK) would have been in the same boat as CINE had it not been for the meme stock hysteria. AMC persuaded their biggest creditors/lenders to convert debt to shares during meme stock hysteria. AMC issued new shares which creditors accepted and thereby strengthen its balance sheet and bought them few more years. There again company remains clueless as to how to increase its business.
May be CINE should take the lead from AMC and announce popcorn collaboration with ASDA or some other chain!