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https://www.ukhaulier.co.uk/news/road-transport/technology/wincanton-selects-mix-telematics-as-its-telematics-partner/

Interviewer emphasis on 'home deliveries' and filling in "trains" on the transport list. She's done here homework. Proactive "And with shopping habits for example being one thing for example that has changed culturally for us over the last few years, there are that much more deliveries aren't there"? KK "That business is growing in leaps and bounds globally, the transport industry is being strained by that, those trends" .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ3D9Ltc_b4

I don't remember ZF having been discussed here before. Are they on your chart Lewbo18? https://press.zf.com/site/press/en_de/microsites/press/list/release/media_33637.html https://annualreport.zf.com/site/annualreport/media/en/annualreport/Geschaeftsbericht_2017_DE_Download.pdf

Some interesting discussion on P108 of the Gear 2030 Strategy 4.3.2 Connected and Autonomous Vehicle (CAV) Technologies. https://publications.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/24c9ad0e-da38-11e7-a506-01aa75ed71a1/language-en/format-PDF/source-52926290 P113 has some interesting Numbers on the value of 'Autonomous driving Chip' 4.3.3 Overall conclusions on the impacts of e-mobility and CAV technologies on Tier 1 suppliers It can be concluded from the analysis above that the trends towards increased prevalence of e-mobility and CAV technologies are poised to bring about significant opportunities to the traditional automotive Tier 1 supply industry if it is able to rapidly develop or acquire new capabilities, but severe risks are also presented to incumbent players who fail to adapt quickly enough. Figure 4.50 below illustrates and summarises the expected benefits and risks generated by both trends, as described in the analysis in this section.

A couple of influential reports which clearly describe the importance EU Auto industry maintaining the technological edge. (No prizes for guessing what I think will happen). http://www.ertrac.org/uploads/documentsearch/id48/ERTRAC_Automated_Driving_2017.pdf 4.2.3. GEAR 2030 The European Commission has launched in 2016 a new High Level Group for the automotive industry called GEAR 2030: it gathers industrial representatives and European associations with EU institutions and national ministries. The objective is to address the challenges faced by the automotive industry and anticipate the future needed regulatory frameworks. A special attention is given to position the European industry as a technology leader and ensure its competitiveness on world markets. https://publications.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/24c9ad0e-da38-11e7-a506-01aa75ed71a1/language-en/format-PDF/source-52926290 Future regulatory strength levels were mainly linked to active measures aimed at improving driving and minimising human error � in particular increasing levels of automation ranging from Level 1 to Level 4, which provided a convenient, discrete set of levels to be used to define regulatory strength in this case. It is expected that active safety measures will become increasingly relevant over time � they may even substitute other passive safety features in the long-run as the probability of certain accident types decreases with decreasing human intervention in driving.

The EU says it consulted widely and obviously have to have realistic time targets. Thatchams say; http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/thatcham-research/pressreleases/euro-ncap-road-map-2025-template-2142592 'The Road Map 2025 will challenge vehicle manufacturers to offer the best possible technology as standard in all segments, protecting not only car occupants but also increasingly addressing the safety of other more vulnerable road users'. And if they had any doubts about DMS, as you suggest in your Alex8-13.42 post below; 'As a hypothetical outcome, say the EU mandate 8 of the 11 proposals but exclude DMS (because its too new)' Then why would they recommend it be implemented as early as possible @ 2020? Primary Safety Driver Monitoring (2020), Automatic Emergency Steering (2020, 2022), Autonomous Emergency Braking (2020, 2022), Vehicle to Vehicle Data Exchange and Vehicle to Infrastructure (2024) Putting all the information we have together convinces me that your 'hypothetical outcome' is extremely unlikely which you will miraculously acknowledge as soon as you buy back in.

In the context of those companies we are be working with on DMS, BMW and Mercedes and the others who are fueling big capability/capacity increases in SEE technical workforce, it would easy to compute that the industry itself has decided it needs DMS as a stepping stone socially and technically towards autonomous cars. The dirty work of industry lobby groups in the auto industry and more widely in the EU as a whole recently will imo only stiffen resolve not to dilute regulation. https://corporateeurope.org/power-lobbies/2015/09/power-car-industry-lobby-makes-scandal-inevitable The car manufacturing industry is traditionally one of Brussels' strongest, and has a particularly German flavour. But the recent scandal engulfing Volkswagen (VW � who also make Audi) and potentially others shows that if Europe is serious about regulating the car industry and protecting public health and the climate, it needs to stand up to the car lobby rather than allowing those resisting regulation to write it.

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OK Dave I get it, change the subject you obviously don't want to talk about it any further.

Posting again as you may have missed it previously and I did not want you to miss out on the opportunity to reply. Alex, shall I take your non-response to my NCAP posts as an acceptance that your position on Mandatory DMS is purely bearish shallow rhetoric and not supported by the evidence?

There's optimism A8 and there's twisting the facts beyond recognition. You do the later.

Lets keep in mind their is a electronic auto world parts shortage due to massive demand and restructuring that unfortunately coincided with a reporting threshold. Many commentators agree the auto industry will change more in the next five to 10 years than it has in the last 50. SEE tech is riding the crest of that wave. This is the context for Mondays RNS not a reflection of SEE management imo.

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Alex, shall I take your non-response to my last 2 posts as an acceptance that your position on Mandatory DMS is purely bearish shallow rhetoric and not supported by the evidence?

Alex, I take it you have read the following; https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/30701/euroncap-roadmap-2025-v4-print.pdf p7 PRIMARY SAFETY Driver Monitoring (2020) More than ninety percent of road accidents are caused by �human mistakes�. In general, two kinds of mistakes can be observed: violations, of which speeding and driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs are most common; and human �errors�, in which the driver state - inattentiveness, fatigue, distraction - and inexperience play an important role. In an aging society, sudden medical incapacitation is also a growing cause of road crashes. Already, driver advisory systems such as Speed Assistance Systems (SAS) and Attention Assist target the human element in crashes by alerting the driver in critical situations and, ultimately, by supporting the driver to improve his behaviour. In addition, adapting intervention criteria to individual drivers and the driver�s state may provide a significant potential for earlier interventions in the future without compromising false-positive levels. Euro NCAP envisages an incentive for driver monitoring systems1 that effectively detect impaired and distracted driving and give appropriate warning and take effective action e.g. initiating a safe evasive manoeuvre, limp home mode, increased increasing sensitivity of Electronic Stability Control, lane support, speed, etc. Implementation in the overall rating is planned in phases, starting with systems that have already entered the market. The assessment will evolve around how reliably and accurately the status of the driver is detected and what action the vehicle takes based on the information. Other aspects, such as driver position monitoring, could be added in future iterations of the protocol.

Alex..would you agree that your view on the unlikely Mandating of DMS is contrary to the opinion expressed recently by KK 'extremely positive impact' and here in the 24 October 2017 RNS below Euro NCAP to Mandate Driver Monitoring Systems For Safety Ratings NTSB Recommends DMS For Semi-Autonomous Vehicles http://www.lse.co.uk/share-regulatory-news.asp?shareprice=SEE&ArticleCode=u3e68jzh&ArticleHeadline=Euro_NCAP_and_NTSB__Driver_Monitoring_Systems Nick DiFiore, General Manager of Automotive at Seeing Machines, commented: "The Euro NCAP 2025 Roadmap and NTSB report are both very material to our business as they are indicative of a rapidly growing demand for Driver Monitoring Systems. The two announcements together reinforce the view that DMS technology is crucial to a safe transition to hands-free driving, as our technology already demonstrates in the recently launched Cadillac CT6 Super Cruise system4. Furthermore, the Euro NCAP roadmap cements the probability that DMS will be adopted in a relatively short timeframe by manufacturers who seek top safety ratings for their vehicles as well as enhancing ADAS systems to help make human drivers better drivers."

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Do not disturb @7p , I'm changing.

Alex I appreciate your point about the gap between EU Proposals and Mandating, it's a fair point. Given the context the proposals are made in ie stubborn road death targets especially among the distracted young, our Kids. Do you expect the DMS proposals to become mandatory as KK RNS statement suggests or have all those years in the industry made him biased and naive and what is more likely is the regulating mums and dads of the EU ignore the new life saving technology and kick the misery saving can down the road by waiting another 5 years and thousands of avoidable deaths ?

Alex just don't forget to include in your model last weeks events which; 'the Company expects that there will be an extremely positive impact on its near and long-term business outlook as a result'.