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Tricky
I am so glad you did - made my day.
Not sure JC and the D Ab fan club will enjoy as I did.
AI - you wanted facts - look at things from JC/ D Ab perspective.

A1

TM has nothing but an agreement to stick in a pig sty. What has Rees Mogg to do with anything.

ilong
Not what you said before. Now another theory.
Need to real read up - so that you have the understanding - and can therefore opine.
Sorry - but you need to read the withdrawal agreement - read AG (Att Gen) confession -read reliable press comment.
Your future is at stake and that of your family and children.

A1 17.16

If you are the true EU lover - there is but one choice - move there and enjoy the rest of you life while you can.
BS from T Bliar et al will ruin this county. . Why can't you see sense?

ilong
Oh dear - missed the point? Backstop a red herring! "Can't see EU wanting to give us market access for nothing.
Please read the many press reports - we have agreed to pay as part of the 39B. The backstop is but a means to keep us paying - because we can't opt out. AND we have no trade deal. A long learning curve - but please start now!

BB
But they would not be able to find Box Hill without EU guidance. Only climbed up once many years ago. Leafy, pleasant with no neighbours - just me and the 2b wife.

BB on Obamacare
My point was that the judiciary seem ever more keen to involve themselves in matters of Government than before. It is as if they are those that decide the laws rather than apply the laws.

PS Obamacare needed reform - and does need reform - but is it useful for the judiciary to determine the constitutional correctness or otherwise of what has happened- not what may be going to happen.

The postings are extracts of articles which should appear in the press tomorrow. Postings to assist enlighten of the problem facing us.

BB

But how do those who have some knowledge of the state of play make those not fully aware of the utter mischief ( Treason) by T Bliar and his mates , Ruddy Rudd and her brother et al that they are being hoodwinked?

and as an addendum - rumour has it:
another possibility which is both more coherent and more sinister.
That is, that running parallel with the official negotiations being conducted by the UK government there has been a dark operation by Team Remain which quietly busied itself in the corridors of Brussels. Its most spectacular success has been the elevation of the Irish border question to the status of Insoluble Problem when, as has been argued with much evidence and eloquence, it is really a fiction
The EU seized on this issue of which they had been, in the innocent early days, totally oblivious, with joyous alacrity as did, needless to say, the Irish Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar who has seen himself propelled from the outermost fringe of the EU’s consciousness to international stardom.

Still your trflon lady A1?

As a footnote

Never mind that a no-deal scenario would damage all 28 states – perhaps especially Ireland. As the story of the euro shows, Eurocrats are prepared to accept a great deal of pain in order to advance the goal of political union. Actually, “accept” is the wrong word since, being exempt from national taxes, they are spared the consequences of their own policies. “Inflict” would be more accurate.
What a wonderful world we live in eh?

Just a few words from a prominent MEP
For two years, we have been wilfully narrowing our options until, with 100 days to go, we have three ugly possibilities before us. “It’s my deal, no deal or no Brexit”, Theresa May kept saying and, at 9.00pm on Wednesday, that statement became true. The only way to widen the choice would have been for a different Prime Minister to go to Brussels with a different offer – a Prime Minister who was genuinely ready to walk away if the other side remained vindictive.
But there won’t be a new PM. Conservative MPs chose to keep one whose defining characteristic is inflexibility. Supporters call it resilience and opponents call it obstinacy, but it amounts to the same thing. The lady is not for turning. She is committed to her deal, backstop and all. She believes in it, she tells us, with every fibre of her being. Even if she were able to change it, she wouldn’t, and EU negotiators know it.
There was speculation that some MPs were looking for an excuse to drop their opposition to the proposed Withdrawal Agreement. But Mrs May cannot now offer them a fig-leaf, or even a pine needle. The EU isn’t bothering to pretend that it wants or expects the backstop to be temporary. Why should it? The backstop holds the British market captive for continental companies, who run a large surplus here, and removes any possibility that a more free-trading Britain might out-compete its neighbours.

LTI - so it absolutely clear then.

So simple really. Why can't people see this.

My post sought to exact exactly what you have stated Thank you

May be soon - May will decide.
Why is this vote meaningful? Does this mean that other votes by the HOC have been meaningless. Should HOC day to day votes be meaningless - because they are not meaningful - should all laws passed as a result of votes of the meaningless be annulled? Does it follow that laws passed as a result of meaningless votes should result in the dissolution of Parliament and the abolition of the Lords?

If Obamacare is considered to be unconstitutional by the judges of several US states - then - both the US & UK are in crisis. It will not end well.

A1

As I said below - Mrs May does not have a deal. The EU has given UK a withdrawal arrangement for agreement.

Born 15.05
If you and your views are those of a small minority -and that view grows via SM - then the future in the words of Harry Enfield is not "Bright but dim".

Heaven help us !

A1 - you need your holiday. Signs are not good. Concerns about your mental ability.
May has no deal - she has no HOC agreement to the EU withdrawal agreement - and no sight of any prospective trade deal

Crow 13.28
So much noise - just like the crows around here -

We - sorry - HOC has not had a meaningful vote - neither has it had a meaningful vote on any deal because we do not have one as yet. there is an EU arrangement for withdrawal which has constrictions. We have nothing but an outline as to what a trade deal might be.

Tricky
I have tried my best in that respect- that is all I can do.
If the minority fail to influence the majority- we can do no more!

The future will be theirs - the iPad is not the answer. There may be a realisation. They may realise that they should have put money aside in Lloy. We all look back at our failings - don't we.

Marvell said nearly 300 years ago
Had we but world enough and time...... we would sit down and think which way to go.

Wow. How many go to church - how many have heard of Andrew Marvell.

Bet TM has not yet got acquainted with the poet - and hymn maker.

Where will she get her help from? Not from some on this BB

Tricky
Snowflakes and millennials will never understand. They already know. Please don't ask them what.