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****eye, Donald Trump actually became president for crying out loud, does that make him reliable or intelligent? what an utterly moronic argument. and regardless of whether the guy is in fact educated or not, politicians lie to suit their agenda and rile up their fan base, just like you and Max do on here, its no different, just the size of the audience which they're lying and playing up to is.
its like that politician you quoted not so long ago, you know the one that got fired for comparing covid to the holocaust. thats who you align with. the fact you dont see how utterly, utterly farcical that is, sums your level of intellect and self-awareness.
anyone who engages in a debate on a subject they know nothing about, whilst when trying to counter the person on the other side they attach website links which disprove their own claims whilst verify the others, is beyond help.......know anyone like that ****eye?
dram.....i know, i know
but the likes of ****eye and max make it too easy, their arguments are easier to pull apart than warm moist bread and it's just too much fun
also where do you think these guys choose to live? oh yeh in the west, which the vilify and hate so much!!
so they're hypocrites as well as morally bankrupt cerebrally challenged cretins
"The Neocon projects in Iraq and Ukraine have cost $8.1 trillion"
and what does that equate to over 20 years as a % of US GDP?........i dont think you'll like the answer
and how much did the US "make" from those wars please?
"made a laughingstock of U.S. military power "..........still known as the most powerful military in the world by a long shot, so that point is a blatant lie and kind of ironic considering Russias military performance right now.
"pushed China and Russia into an invincible alliance"
and alliance where China takes advantage of Russia and doesnt ever publicly support the invasion......"invincible" indeed!!!
"where the US has been training Ukrainians since 2016"
what a utterly moronic point, the Russians invaded Ukraine in 2014 .........are you OK hun?
"against the chess master Russians"
max, it's been stated multiple times on here in just the last few days, but your stupidity really does know no bounds.
are these the "chess masters" that gambled on........
taking over Kyiv and toppling the Ukrainian Government?
dividing the west?
betting on no military involvement from the west?
claiming the war (sorry - special operation) would stop NATO expanding?
threatened Sweden with "complete destruction" if they applied to join NATO?
threatened Finland with "complete destruction" if they applied to join NATO?
that threaten to nuke every western leaning country every week?
that threaten "consequences" for those that supply weapons and never follow through?
that only has North Korea, Iran, Syria and Belarus that openly vote with it in the UN?
that have had $650 billion dollars of foreign exchange frozen by western governments?
that murder their own people who speak out against the war?
that have brought in laws that its illegal to use the word "war" and criticise the Russian military?
whose own state troops cant advance anywhere & rely on a PMC to advance on small city at a rate of 10 metres per day?
that have never been weaker militarily?
that have never been weaker geo-politically?
that are weaker economically?
that cant possibly get more out of the war than they have sacrificed?
that have lost tens of thousands of soldiers in the space of a year?
are running their largest fiscal deficit on record?
are wheeling out weaponry made in the 1940's?
whose military is the laughing stock of the world?
whose most powerful partner still wont publicly support the invasion?
whose foreign minister has been laughed at during G20 talks?
whose leader has an arrest warrant issued by the ICC for the kidnapping of children?
who have lost more soldiers than all the wars combined since WW2?
who have lost more materiel than all the wars combined since WW2?
that have 140 million people, the largest land mass and the largest resource base on the planet and have an economy the same size as Italy?
who have directly contributed to Ukraine being far more militarily powerful now than at any time in their history?
who have 20 million plus people living in absolute poverty?
who 25% of the population dont have access to running water?
and to all that you have the stupidity to still claim "Trump was their last minute hope" and "they were too big to gang up on".......you really are beyond help
"Indrid, Russia want to keep a viable Ukraine. It's not USA pulverised. They have a strategy, I can see it, maybe you cannot. War is a topic I have spent a life time studying"
i wish this site allowed emoji's .....400 laughing emojis would be perfectly apt for this statement.
simply google "Marinka", you'll see how deluded or how much of a bare faced liar Max is. then extrapolate Marinka across dozens and dozens and dozens other other towns and villages.
Russias military doctrine is mass artillery attacks, unguided, non-precision (dumb ordnance) 152/155mm shells fired by howitzers at a rate of tens of thousands per day to level towns, destroy everything, so there is no where for the enemy to hide. thats Russian "liberation"
western/NATO doctrine is high precision missiles, surgical strikes, air dominance. Russia saves their missiles for hitting schools, hospitals, playgrounds, apartment blocks miles and miles from the front lines. but remember they are only trying to "liberate " the people of the LPR and DPR in the east.
the 2 cant be more polar opposite. of course there are always going to be collateral damage with any kind of warfare, but to even begin to compare the 2 is beyond laughable, let alone claim you have studied war all your life. what a load of utter garbage, that's about as credible as Gemma Collins claiming to have studied quantum physics all her life. Max, you're a clown and if you think people believe that statement, then i sincerely apologise to any actual clowns i must have offended.
this is the guy that just compared Russia in 2023 to the Mongols in the 1200's who had the largest contiguous empire the world has ever seen, where as Russia cant even take a small town in 9 months. yes Max the "expert"........priceless
flyinghorse pay no attention to this deluded individual, he's on a parallel universe
did you see his post earlier about "hypersonic weapons" being one of the reasons this ruling has taken place, the guy has a brain as smooth as an egg........its like a child seeing something cool with "hypersonic" in the name and he's transfixed, with no idea why
as an historical example how did Hitlers "wunderwaffe" change the course of WW2? well it didnt, it did absolutely ZERO. and this guy thinks these weapons are going to effect not only the "special operation" (lol) but also oil laws in the middle east that have been going on for years. ludicrous doesn't even come close.
Russian forces, actually make that Wagner, are the only ones making any ground anywhere across the entire front and even then its at a glacial pace, at the cost of thousands of men and materiel losses that make the eyes water, and thats even before the western heavy amour like Bradleys, Challengers, Leopards, Abrams have even turned up.
you only have to google "Vuhledar" to see how well Russia actually does tactically and operationally.
Russia are now wheeling out T-55 tanks (google when they were made if you fancy a giggle) and this is one of the leaders of the "new world order"?
China still not publicly backing Russia, abstaining from all UN voting, they care too much about themselves to ever back Russia fully. the only countries actually fully behind Russia are Belarus, North Korea, Iran and Syria......bastions of freedom, wealth, power eh? lol.......this "new world order" is looking awfully fragile
and to round it all off, where do you think our cerebrally challenged Max actually chooses to live........?
that 200p might act as a bit of a ceiling for a short while, need oil to charge back up to get us moving in the right direction again
on a side note anyone interested in ENQ?......i took a punt on 160000 shares at 20.51p.........and by pure luck the CEO just bought 4.4 million the other day
30p isnt out of reach within the next 6 months IMO
"You, and your like, have zero comprehension of Reality"
there's that irony
"Russia did not want to destroy Ukraine"
so why are they attacking civilian targets?
"they see them as brain washed cousins"
yes that's called "projection"
"The Western coup in 2014 imprisoned millions of Russian speakers in a ****hole."
the vast majority of Ukrainians want to be closer to Europe than Russia, thats just common sense. why do you think the USSR collapsed, because everyone liked it too much?
"They are going to destroy them"
and losing half their gains over the last 6 months is proving that extremely well
"There is ZERO good for Ukraine out of this nightmare"
completely incorrect and utterly detached from reality, after this war Russia will never attack Ukraine again. Now the west has shown they can get involved, contribute to the death of tens and tens of thousands of Russians and the Kremlin cant do anything about it, the Russians are done as a country that just decides to invade its neighbours whenever it fancies.
"Your kind are happy to watch innocent people die in foreign wars"
a stupid and completely incorrect assertion
"but I appreciate self defense"
on right so you are on the Ukrainian side, fair play
"Go hate yourself and go get Putin"
it beggars belief there is a grown man typing this.....
"Merry Christmas"
merry xmas too babe xx
"Refute, what utter nonsense"
yeh that just about sums up your debating skills
"Narrative led by Russia now, West are lost"
lol what? i really want to try what you are smoking. can you elaborate on that further, give examples? how many countries have openly supported the war. please list them and confirm what they have said and done for Russia.
"Led by incompetent morons who eould be crushed in any school yard"
what an infantile and nonsensical statement. remind me again of Putins successes so far? are the west divided? has NATO expanded or not? did he manage to take Kyiv? what countries does Putin have openly supporting him? what is happening the Russian armed forces on the ground? how many times has Putin threatened the west and how many times made good on those threats?
"Haven't used hypersonic, you are an idiot. They uses one on the Nato staging base in Western Ukraine early days, the West basically shat themselves, but you wouldn't know what that means"
again another strangely infantile and emotional rant. lets have proof please, anything will do, an article, photos, video, open source imagery. NATO casualty numbers etc.....?
"How long do you think a beloved carrier fleet would last with hypersonic missiles"
a lot longer than the Russian fleet, where Ukraine can take out the flagship Moskva with ease and simple methods. can you confirm Russian carrier fleet strength. dont they have a tug boat that follows around their only carrier?
"Do some real research into reality"
that's irony right there folks!
"You should go fight evil Putin. You won't be coming back"
again, the ramblings of a child.
Arma......i mean the levels of delusion and inaccuracy in that rant is nothing short of baffling.
"refute what?"......every point i made which countered your nonsense, thats how debates work. what on earth are you going on about?
"USA UK driven out of Syria, Afghanistan, and crushed in Ukraine"
why are you still lying? and its not just hard to prove lies, it takes literally a 30 second google to see your just spreading complete falsehoods.
The US is still in Syria there are about 900-1000 US forces located in the SDF-controlled areas of northeastern Syria, such as Hassakeh and Raqqa. so there is lie number 1 squashed.
the US/UK chose to leave Afghanistan for political reasons. if they were "driven" out please reference the battles that took place where the Taliban "drove" the US/UK out. if you cant, another lie squashed.
"and in ukraine".........LOL what?......the US and UK have troops in Ukraine.......please provide evidence. if not, lie 3 squashed.
"How much territory have Russia taken?".........already answered, they had approx 25% of Ukraine in the summer, they have 15% now, thats a loss of nearly half their previous gains. they havent made any ground in circa 6 months. hope that clears that up for you
"What do YOU see happening next, without your 'news'?"............thats a very complicated answer that is based on multiple factors affecting multiple outcomes. either way it will all be based on opinion and guesswork. the fact is you are lying about stuff that has already happened and assuming no one will be any the wiser. very strange.
"How are the Western economies doing in Indrids world?"........struggling. but no where near as bad as Russia. if you had any sense you would be able to admit that and not lie again about something easily verifiable. Russian GDP has contracted 4% this year, you name a western nation that is any where near that. Russian inflation is at 13%, far higher than any western nation. the Ruble is at 7 month lows even with capital restrictions in place. Russia is selling oil at 30% discounts to market price to India and China to make up for lost revenue from Europe. hundreds of thousands of intelligent, educated of working age men have fled the country. to date 60,000+ working age men are dead, removed from the economy. name a western nation undergoing that sort of devastation? look at Russian GDP compared to US, UK, France, Germany.....less than half of all those and falling.
"Russia?" dire economic outlook as above. add to that even TASS reported russians living below the poverty line has gone up from 12 million in 2021 to over 20 million in 2022. are you also aware that 20% of russians dont have access to running water?
"Sanctions are working are they? All going to plan?"..........yes. russias economy is contracting, that is verifiable fact. they are cut off from western tech and finance. hundreds of market leading companies have left Russia. the Ruble is at 7 month lows despite strict
"This is Indrid's favourite line... 'you haven't manged to refute a single one of my points'"
yeh, i mean when the person you are arguing with cant put together a single honest, fact based, logical rebuttal and only attempts to lie and divert when proven wrong, what else is there to say?
"Because you write in semiliterate, with the syntax of a ten year old, gobbledygook. Nonsensical rambling is a not an argument"
yeh happy to admit my grammar is far from good, but every point i make is still easily understood, pretending it isnt just shows how out of depth you are. Its immoral, ill-informed and unresearched individuals like you ****eye that focus on such things because their underlying arguments are so weak and feeble.
remember that time you claimed the Chinese Navy was double the size of the Americans? not only was that completely false, your utter ignorance on the subject showed that you had no idea it was tonnage and power projection that mattered. you then proceeded to attach links in an attempt to solidify your already false claim, which hilariously proved you were categorically wrong and me right almost word for word!!! that's how intelligent you are.......that incident still makes me LOL
"How's your spike protein going, Indrid? Taken anymore"
well considering 99% of my entire workplace, friendship group, family have all had their jabs and none have died or fallen ill, so i'd say it's "going" just fine........same as the vast majority of the population of the world agreeing, all the top scientists, virologists and health organisations stating the same, and 99.99% of people are having no issues........but dont let those facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory, eh? LOL
by the way whats actually meant to happen to the hundreds of millions of people who have had the vaccine, and whatever it is, why hasnt it happened yet?
"Your government loves you...Merry Christmas"
nah i dont think they do, but Putin certainly doesnt even know you exist, despite all the "cheering on" you're doing.
by the way, when are you leaving your western home and the ability to exercise freedom of speech to go and live in one of the oppressed nations you admire so? and if you havent gone yet, whats stopping you? it wouldnt be hypocrisy, would it?
and Arma if you want to know what actually happens when US and Russian forces directly fight each other, read the below. no doubt it will be difficult reading for someone who has clearly guzzled on the Kremlin Kool-aid for so long that it seems emotionally painful for you to accept reality, but hey-ho, at least i have tried to help bring you out of your parallel universe and back to this beautiful blue planet we call Earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
Arma
you havent manged to refute a single one of my points with any truth, logic or reason. go back to my original reply to your initial statements and actually answer the questions with substance, not just absolute delusional guff that has no place within this reality. try to argue like an adult that has some grasp of the situation rather than an inebriated 8 year old.
"Bakhmut?".........i have already answered this, Russia has tried to take this city for 7 months and still hasnt, you're literally putting forward a point that proves how useless Russia are. Zelensky visited Bakhmut only yesterday, imagine Russia being so dangerous there that the Ukrainian President just rocks up to hand out medals, thanks his troops, then leaves.....LOL
"Hypersonic?"......LOL.......what have they done so far?
"Su 87?".........LOL........whats the point of them when Russia dont have air superiority even after 10 months!
"On one note: All Kremlin propaganda has been banned and censored by your propaganda so how could I watch any of their propaganda"
no it hasnt........that's just a flat out lie. the west are constantly replaying the nonsense that comes from The Kremlin, what on earth are you going on about? also check Reddit, there are multiple sub-reddits like "Ukrainian conflict" and "ukraine russia war report".......you get to see reports from the front line, videos, images, replays of russian state televisions where they rant and rave how russia should nuke the world and all ukrainian children should be drowned.
"Taliban in Afghanistan"........this has got to be the most stupid and uniformed comment you have made, and thats saying something.......tell us all now, how the Taliban beat the US/UK in battle, list the battles, list the outcome, list the chronology, list it all
"Russia will crush Ukraine"............so Russia failed in Kyiv before the western weaponry even arrived, and up to summer Russia held 25% of Ukraine, they now hold 15%. They are retreating on all fronts expect Bakhmut where they have been losing 300- 500 soldiers every day, expending more materiel than they can replace, and they are making about 10m advances per week.......LOL........"crushing" indeed!
"What my propaganda BBC, CNN and sky news say is the truth and what they say is a conspiracy or not the truth is not the truth, and a conspiracy, until which point they change the narrative, at which point I will believe whatever they say"
nope, completely incorrect and not once have i implied BBC and Sky are reliable sources.
so again, try not to lie, stick to the facts, provide logic, reason and honesty in your next reply please.
"so you think some random website has got the truth"
this again shows your lack of understanding of the matter and what sources should be taken seriously. Oryx are renowned for being the most reliable source of materiel losses, as they report ONLY visually confirmed losses.
feel free to check the widely held opinion on their data reliability
then check the website itself, every tank, vehicle, missile system etc etc claimed as destroyed all have hyperlinks associated with them that provide videos and/or images of said materiel............it literally cant be refuted
but i agree on the propaganda comment, of course both sides do it, it's just that the Russian propaganda is utterly, utterly laughable on most occasions, it's like they don't even try sometimes.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/10/how-is-russia-faring-against-nato.html
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
please note these are "visually confirmed" numbers, so they can not be refuted, they are proven
anyone who still thinks Russia is "performing well" or even winning when cold hard numbers of their losses are laid out like this, then help is beyond them.
this article just about sums up who Russia are and the desperation or their leadership/armed forces.....makes for a very enlightening read
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/10/lost-in-lies-keeping-track-of-russian.html
"Indrid, The more I have just read your posts the more I realise you are basically a product of bc and sky news and maybe possibly CNN"
and you seem like a believer of Kremlin propaganda. and just to get this clear are you saying the Kremlin controlled media of Russia, where no news agency has any freedom, is that more reliable then western media?
"I mean the dismal failure in Afghanistan doesn't even appear on your radar"
remind me of how Russia got on in Afghanistan please?
and how long did the US hold Afghanistan before they simply chose to believe? come on then explain how the US/UK "lost" against the Taliban then......?
"You are not alone in this there are many people who do not comprehend geopolitics. Currently unfortunately the people in positions of decision making power in the United States do not"
this is just wishy washy nonsense, use some common sense. explain how Russia are winning in Ukraine (and no bombing schools, playgrounds, hospitals doesnt count)
"They instigated a proxy war in the Ukraine and We're completely opened over it and outplayed"
again zero substance or logic to this. in fact its as delusional as the drivel that comes out of the Russian state television where they admit one of the goals is to "de-satanize" Ukraine.
how are the west outplayed? their weapons deliveries are killing thousands and thousands of Russians every month whilst not risking a single soldier of their own. Russias economy is shrinking far more than any western nation. Russian materiel is getting destroyed at a rate never seen before since WW2. NATO is bigger and stronger than ever. the west united more than ever. the only nation openly helping Russia is Iran. you have to be a bare faced liar or completely deluded to think Russia is getting the upper hand on the west.
"The reality on the ground is that a 1000 people die A-day in the Ukraine And they are Ukrainian"
firstly that is a gross exaggeration. secondly Russia have lost more troops than Ukraine whilst only losing land for the last 5-6 months
"May I ask have you ever played chess?Or have you studied history at all? Or battle tactics?I wonder do people like yourself have any actual idea of what's really going on at allIt must be very strange to be so confused in the world and surprised by everything"
again just pure drivel, the ramblings of someone that doesnt want to discuss specifics, admit to facts and reality, its just honestly pure garbage that only highlights the fact your debating abilities on the particulars of the conflict are completely absent.
"Indrid How many men do you suspect the United States and the United Kingdom could field on a battlefield? Are you aware the Ukrainian army was the biggest Standing army in the Western World"
it's largely irrelevant when the US would have air supremacy immediately. but either way the US has a standing army of circa 1.3 million, so not sure what your point is?
add to that the Western troops are far, far better trained, equipped, skilled than Russian ones. Western weapons are better, tanks are better, planes are better, ships are better. You (like most pro-russians) value quantity over quality.
and Ukraine isnt in the "western world" so not sure of your point, and again troops numbers are secondary to weaponry in modern warfare.
"Have you any comprehension of the fact that the Russians can field one million men"
yes fully aware, but again your argument is based on quantity over quality. Russia sent in its best soldiers in the first 200,000 and obviously that didnt work.
the second 300,000 conscription is made up of far less capable, less equipped, less motivated soldiers.
if Russia is so strong why is it making threats every week and not following through on any of them?
do you know the world now refers to Putin as NATO salesman of the century?
"Indrid, bakhmut? Hypersonic missiles? Mean anything to you?"
hahahahaha
the fact you think those are debating points in favour of the Russians is utterly laughable.
Bakhmut, that the city Russia have been trying to take for 7 months? this being the ONLY area not Russian Army Troops, but Wagner, have been making ground and at about 10 metres per week?
funny you dont mention every other single front where Russians are either retreating or making ZERO gains
and hypersonic missiles? what have they done so far?