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*if it wasn't all so tragic, it would be hilarious
Swell, it is no use engaging with this lunatic. I have tried (on several occasions) to extract some sane, logical, moral, reality based commentary from this uneducated, ill researched, deluded nutter, but it will always be to no avail with max.
He constantly refers to Putin as this genius who will get what he wants and everything is going to plan in Ukraine.
It is mind boggling that no matter what information comes out from Ukraine and everything involved with it, he refuses to accept reality, no doubt due to his utterly depraved and irrational obsession with a 5ft 2in murderous botox filled dictator.
Russia's failures and international embarrassment have been mounting week after week, month after month for a year and half now, and Max still refuses to admit it or is simply too dumb to realise it. You simply wont get an honest adult reply from him.
He doesn't want to admit Russia cant possibly get more out of this war than they put in.
Hundreds of thousands of working age men dead and wounded, hundreds of thousands fled the country removing themselves from the economy.
Russia failed in taking Kyiv, they failed in stopping NATO expand, they spent tens months taking one town (Bakhmut) at the loss of over 10,000 dead and that is despite having an artillery advantage of 10-1 and local air superiority. And they haven't even managed to advance on a single other front for the last 9 months.
The leadership bomb schools, hospitals, play grounds, shopping malls, residential buildings, killing women, children, babies and if that wasn't disgusting enough on its own they then cry "terrorism" when Ukraine attack their Black Sea Fleet.
They have lost half their heavy weaponry and armour, and now they are wheeling out tanks from the 1940's to the front line. 80of their "elite" units gone
Their soldiers shoot each other if they retreat, there have been videos of castration, beheadings, mass graves and executions, yet still Max will support it.
The only nations that actually vote with Russia at the UN are Syria, Iran, North Korea and Belarus. But yet again Max seems to think that utterly laughable set of allies is something to be proud of and evidence of the west losing.
The west keep crossing every single red line the Kremlin set down and then Russia stamp their feet like petulant children, threaten to nuke every major western city at least once a week, yet Max is in awe of these utter buffoons.
Number of Russians living in absolute poverty has gone from 12 million to 22 million since the start of the invasion. the Ruble is the worst performing major currency of this year. oil and gas revenues are down 40%. Russia is running its biggest ever trade deficit on record. historic rate rises have just been implemented. yet despite all those facts, morons like Max will claim "sanctions arent working", even when Putin himself asked sanctions to be removed as a bargaining chip for re-entering the grain deal.
if it wasn't so all tragi
Max
I assume by the lack of any rebuttal and/or answers to a single one of my previous questions you are admitting you don't have a leg to stand on and as usual in the face of facts, logic, common sense and reality your argument just falls away?
Then on to your question, it's tricky one to answer for multiple reasons
Firstly you are an idiot. Therefore what would be the point of me engaging with someone who not only has a brain as smooth as an egg, but consumes the most utterly laughable propaganda and regurgitates as gospel?
The last time you gave us your "prediction" for the outcome of the war it simply stated "the Russians are going to kill every last Ukrainian" and of course that's as stupid as all your other moronic comments combined. So it's a dilemma for me in the sense that is the sort of person you are asking me to debate with, so again i ask myself what is the point?
Finally you are pro-russian, so not only do refuse to engage in any sort of critical thought process, apply any common sense to your statements, you also (like all pro-russians) have to lie. That's not debateable, the Kremlin lies pretty much every time they make a statement, you and your ilk then repeat it like a braindead zombies, so essentially you are always lying. And who wants to argue with someone so fundamentally deluded and dishonest?
So here's a deal, lets see if you can be honest about a few things. Things that are easily provable, not up for debate and will be blindingly obvious if your answer is true or not. If you answer honestly, i'll give you my view on Ukraines future. So here we go....
1) Did Putin make a massive miscalculation about how willing the west would be to get involved?
2) Putin stated a primary/strategic goal of the war was to ensure the non-expansion of NATO, how did that work out for him?
3) Putin has repeatedly warned of "red lines" that shouldn't be crossed, can you confirm what he did when the West crossed them every time?
4) If NATO get fully involved in the war, who wins based on a very high degree of probability?
5) Is it the sign of a stable, just and fair leadership that on a weekly basis they repeatedly threaten to nuke major cities across the globe?
6) Russia had a single tank at their victory day parade, a T-34 which was made in the 1940's. Is that a sign of strength or weakness?
7) Who won the cold war and why did the USSR collapse?
8) Before the Maidan Revolution the democratically elected Ukrainian parliament democratically voted to remove the Russian puppet president Viktor Yanukovych, what were the numbers of the Yes to No votes cast for his removal from office?
Most sane people would filter those that talk about subjects they dont want to hear about.......
putup......most sane and civilised people feel the same
in fact max and ****eye actually feel the same too or they wouldn't live in the west would they?
they are, simply put, utter frauds.
they just regurgitate this absolute drivel because people who live in the west and speak out against their own governments, whilst praising tyrannical murderous dictators like putin, are really "cool" and "intellectual" and "edgy"..... at least that is how they see themselves.
it doesn't matter if their views lack any critical thought process, common sense, morality, decency, honesty, logic, the chant will go on "down with the west" - a.k.a "down with where i choose to live and will not move from"
if they were men of their word they would relocate to the likes of iran, syria, north korea, belarus, russia where things are so much better, right?
i mean just look at their human rights history, look at the human development index.........
utterly laughable
"russian propaganda, all russian propaganda is banned"
so your first retort is to flat out lie and to make it so easily provable its a lie it is baffling. so you are claiming there is no russian propaganda on twitter, instagram, facebook, youtube at all then? you are mental.
"mariupol" yup russia won that
"bakhmut" yup wagner took that rubble but now russian troops are losing ground everyday, are you even checking the conflict maps?
"offensive" - which one? the russian one where they couldn't advance anywhere along the entire front but bakhmut, where it took 10 months to take one town at the cost of tens of thousands of dead and wounded?
or are you talking about the ukrainian kherson and kharkiv offensive last summer where ukr took back 40% of russias gains in the space of 2 months?
or are you talking about the current offensive where ukraine have committed less than 15% of their reserves and have made more gains in the last month than russia did during their whole winter offensive?
and as ****eye cant explain why there needed to be a faux coup to simply move wagner to belarus, can you help him?
and one final question for you and ****eye, when did the nazi's start losing ww2? i presume your logic will be it was only when they were forced back behind their own borders?
"I told you at the start, and I'll tell you again; Russia is going to get everything it wants out of this war and NATO will make a humiliating retreat just like it did with Afghanistan"
yes you did tell me that at the start, but the fact you have been proven wrong yet still claim your prediction is valid is nothing short of mind boggling.
Russia wanted to ensure no further NATO expansion - categorical fail
Russia wanted to scare the West into not getting involved - categorical fail
Russia wanted to take Kyiv - categorical fail
Russia wanted to topple and replace the western leaning government - categorical fail
Russia wanted to "demilitarize" Ukraine - categorical fail
they have changed the goal posts so many times its beyond sad.
so explain to us all mere mortals if Russia takes 10 months to take one small town, how is it going to get "everything" it wants?
and in conclusion to my previous questions, you have absolutely no retort in why it makes any sense a faux coup was needed to move Wagner to Belarus?
like all previous scenarios where you are challenged with facts, common sense and logic you simply just avoid the question and deflect?
p.s. do you know what "retreat" means? if so can you confirm when the Taliban militarily forced NATO to "retreat"?......i shan't hold my breath
Yes you did specifically mention Elon, own it, don't lie.
And again you are just regurgitating moronic, baseless Russian propaganda. Where is the is peace agreement Boris made Ukraine turn down? If it existed there would at least be some shred of evidence of such a document.....funny that it has NEVER made an appearance eh?
No one is questioning the US has always wanted to weaken Russia, but if you are still claiming Russia had "no choice" but to invade Ukraine, you are even more beyond help than I thought.
Add to that if that's what the US wanted, then Putin has to be pretty stupid to just give them that then, right?
Yes "some" alliances have shifted away, but the West is more united than ever and their militaries, economies, technologies, finances, dwarf those that actually fully stand behind Russia.
look at NATO now, more members than ever, larger border shared with Russia than ever, more financial commitment than ever. THE worlds largest and most powerful military alliance has just got bigger and stronger because of Putin's actions, not even someone as deluded and dishonest as you can even argue with that surely?
but Putin is a genius right, all "psy-ops"......"lets get hundreds of thousands of my troops WIA and KIA whilst making NATO stronger"...........errrrrr, why?
look at who votes with Russia at the UN, Syria, Iran, Belarus, North Korea all tin-pot dictator ships that if you added up their respective GDP's they come to about 2% of just the US's......these alliances are trash
India and China never vote with Russia, they just dont condemn them so they can continue buying oil at 30% discounts to market value......hell of an "alliance" that
so in your deluded and twisted mind you want people to believe that gang 1, is better/stronger than gang 2......and gang 2 is isolated??? wtf are going on about, isolated from who?
1) Russia, Belarus, Syria, Iran, North Korea
2) US, UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, South Korea, New Zealand, Australia, Japan, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Austria, Japan, Canada, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Portugal
do you want to compare the nominal GDP's of the 2, the GDP per capitas, the education systems, social care, technology sectors, financial sectors, infrastructure, music, sport, film, culture, cars, freedom of speech?
you're argument is bordering on insanity, and to add to it all you CHOOSE to live in the west.........what a hypocrite
oooooohhhhhh dear ****eye, your "proof" is some random twitter account which explains nothing, no modus operandi, no logic, no common sense
just read the comments to the post, for god sake man, wake up!
and i just remembered you were claiming several months ago elon musk was in the throes of putting together a peace agreement (come on, you have to admit that was even stupid for you and that's saying summat)..........could you let us have an update on that front please?
you honestly must have an iq below room temperature, how do you not drown in the shower?
p.s putin moved nukes to belarus with out the need of a faux coup.........what are your thoughts on that? kinda contradicts your already baseless and illogical take on the need to concoct a charade to move wagner there?
lol standard ****eye response, i am surprised you haven't linked an article that directly contradicts your argument yet, #chinesenavy
where did i say it was a genuine attempt to take moscow? what is the point arguing something i never claimed, are you ok hun?
the problem with you and your ilk ****eye is you fail to apply any common sense or logic to anything, like the covid vaccine, 911, this war.........if it was "psy-ops" there has to be a benefit to it.......you or max have failed to explain that.
so again why kill wagner troops, let wagner troops shoot down helicopters and planes, make your self look weak by having a pmc stage a coup in the first place, then look even weaker by saying there will be grave consequences for wagner, subsequently confirming they wont face a single criminal charge?
max's argument was the whole reason was to move wagner to belarus, well why? why not just move them? why on earth go through this so called charade? you are literally making zero sense.
so come on einstein answer the only question that matters...........why?
"routing ukrainian and nato forces and taking the immensely important strategic city"
again this shows the absolute degradation your cerebral cortex has suffered by only listening to pro-russian sources.
firstly claiming russia are directly "fighting nato" is one of the most moronic pro-russian claims. ukraine are fighting russia with decades old nato weaponry that equate to about 1% of the collective wests gdp. for your simple brain to understand it, if me and you were in a boxing ring and mike tyson gave me his gloves, are you then fighting me and mike tyson? dont be a moron.
secondly wagner lost (kia) 10-20,000 troops taking a small city of limited strategic importance. if it so important to russia explain why? what have they done since, what are they going to do with a pile of rubble?
it's important to ukraine because they have to make a stand at every city, or the next one over just gets levelled to the ground by artillery, not because it has overall "strategic" importance.
and again, like i asked max, what are wagner going to do with kyiv? russia failed the first time and they had more than double wagner troops, they have an air force, ukraine didnt have as many western defence systems back then, etc
wagner also took 10 months to take a town with a pre-war population of 70,000. do you even have the slightest concept of what man power it would take to conquer kyiv with wagner tactics?
then lets not forget putin's calls/aims in this war, divide the west, demilitarize, stop nato enlarging, stop nato expanding to russias borders, create red lines every week that are crossed with no consequence, assume a quick capitulation of ukraine. it's strategic defeat after strategic defeat and you nutters still pretend he is some 4d chess player who is out smarting everyone and everything that has gone wrong is simply a cunning deflection.
utterly mental, and all wh
"Rumours are it was psyops"
hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaaha.........utterly, categorically, positively, unequivocally braindead and brainwashed
But that is the epitome of the vatnik/tankie/pro-russian delusion.
yeh, yeh, yeh of course Max, great theory that.......well part from the fact they could have simply moved Wagner to Belarus and there was absolutely no need to carry out a fake coup to do this.
Then add in the reality Russia couldn't take Kyiv the first time round with tens of thousands more troops than Wagner has, additionally Ukraine didnt have the Western equipment/air defences back then either, plus Russia committed their most elite troops.....but yeh apart from that makes complete sense....lol
Then add in the fact that Wagner actually shot down and fired at Russian planes and helicopters, the Russians then bombed the convoys of Wagner.
Also why do all this when it just makes Putin look weak, he stated this act was an act of "treason" then agreed absolutely no criminal charges would be brought against Wagner. Mental.
I mean we've seen it all before but Max's (and that goes for all the other completely deluded pro-russians) mental gymnastics to try and convince himself "all is going to plan" is as completely pathetic as it is laughable.
"Russia are crushing Ukraine. They are actively killing every single man there, helped by Elensky. When all the men are dead they can move wherever they want"
utterly, unequivocally, positively, categorically deluded and imbecilic
you're on a whole different planet, it's no wonder the top recommended post on here from the last several weeks was one which stated you were an idiot and should be put on the filter
you couldn't have better demonstrated how completely devoid you are of any sort of rational or intelligent thought process
you have the critical thinking prowess and debating skills of an Amoeba.
"A new analysis of Institute for the Study of War data shows that, after once having seized as much as 51,000 sq miles (132,000 sq km) of Ukrainian land, Russia has since lost a fifth of this"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2023/feb/21/a-year-of-war-how-russian-forces-have-been-pushed-back-in-ukraine#:~:text=A%20new%20Guardian%20analysis%20of,in%20the%20south%20and%20east.
max, 20% of recaptured land in the space of a couple of months? what are you comments please?
what % have Russia captured in the last 10 months?
and you claim its "land no one cares about"
what a weak, feeble and illogical excuse.
firstly why did Russia take it if "they didnt care about it".........lies as per usual from you then?
secondly Ukraine want ALL their territory back, so they "care about it".......so another lie then
"Now research Bakhmut"
i already provided you with the reality of that arena, you just dont like the facts. so here we go again. Bakhmut = Wagner (not Russian regular troops) have lost thousands upon thousands of men, thousands of pieces of materiel and made about 10/20m gains per week. and after 10+ months of fighting they still dont hold the small town. so what is your point again?
"Check Russian numbers beside Western numbers"
what are you going on about? firstly do you believe the Russian numbers? because if you do you're even more stupid than i originally thought and that's say something
secondly, i dont believe Western numbers so what would be the point of that exercise?
thirdly, you give us YOUR estimates, then let us know how you arrived at them? thats WIA and KIA......i'd like to see how truly deluded you are.......?
have you checked Oryx for visually confirmed Russian materiel losses? of course you havent or if you have you will just lie and pretend all the photographic and video evidence is fake.
how is Vulhedar going?
how is every other front apart from Bakhmut going?
For Ingrid:
Facts - theories
Theories - facts
max, post up a single FACT you have presented over the last few days please? just one will do.
then review my post with the 20+ FACTS that prove the invasion was a mistake for Russia and see if you can counter any of them with logic or reason?
"Spring offensive ready. Elensky gives Russia one last chance to get out"
and yet another stupid, utterly moronic comment.
firstly how far did Russia get with their "winter offensive"?
then when Ukraine counter attacked last September, remind us of what happened please?
"But the documents do not prove Paul’s claim that Fauci was lying, as they do not make clear whether Fauci read them. Nor do they in any way support Paul’s allegation that Fauci was “responsible for 4 million people around the world dying of a pandemic” — or that anyone intentionally caused Covid-19"
****eye you have an IQ the same as room temperature. you're doing it again, posting up articles that debunk your own nonsense. lol indeed.
so again, based on the above where is the proof there was INTENT to cause covid, wheres the evidence to support your conspiracy theory that the US was behind the pandemic and all the came after?
and as you are posting up articles like this you admit a CHINESE lab was experimenting with covid, yes?
you really are a moron dude, it baffles me you manage to log on to this website everyday.
****eye another stupid and irrelevant article(s)
to start, its still a conspiracy theory is it not, please requote the definition for clarity.
secondly an excerpt from the link
"But the documents do not prove Paul’s claim that Fauci was lying, as they do not make clear whether Fauci read them. Nor do they in any way support Paul’s allegation that Fauci was “responsible for 4 million people around the world dying of a pandemic” — or that anyone intentionally caused Covid-19"
so again, nothing but speculation, and complete absence of proof.......so in line with literally everything you post here!
and your admitting the source is still China, Wuhan?
and the government you praise so vehemently had no idea this was happening in their own back yard? so America got one over on them?
and here's an article from an actual reputable source that counters you narrative......easy this innit?
https://www.webmd.com/covid/coronavirus-history
"Today Finland has become the 31st member of the Nato security alliance, doubling the length of member states' borders with Russia"
ah yes the direct consequence of Russias (the "chess master" lol) invasion of Ukraine........all going perfectly in accordance with Putins fool proof plan.........priceless
"Substance? You haven't a clue."
LOL.......you can taste the irony!!!
"A person who uses the term conspiracy theory is beyond help"
what does this even mean? what on earth are you going on about? are you drunk?
"conspiracy theory" - "the idea that important political events or economic and social trends are the products of deceptive plots that are largely unknown to the general public"
yourself and ****eye think the US is behind the Ukraine war and Russia had no choice but to invade, that is a the very definition of a "conspiracy theory"
****eye also believes the US is behind covid, that is a the very definition of a "conspiracy theory"
****eye also believes that the US is behind the 9/11 attacks, that is, yet again, the very definition of a "conspiracy theory"
so again, it's a retort of zero substance, a reply of laughable, illogical, irrational, delusional, nonsensical and moronic content......par for the course then ****eye and max!
i'd wager you both have brains as smooth as an egg!
and i wonder why you keep avoiding the question of when you are emigrating to Russia or similar nations? are you frauds?
max rather than reply with just the ramblings of an inebriated 6 year old, why not add some substance to your argument?
i just gave you about 20 points on why the Russian invasion is going so badly for them, and you havent managed to counter a single one.......rather telling dont you think?
"how is Bakhmut going"
the fact you use this as a pro for the Russians is utterly ridiculous and highlights you level of stupidity. this is a small town that Russia (the 2nd most powerful military on earth, lol) has been trying to take for about 10 months. whilst losing tens of thousands of soldiers, thousands of pieces of armour and weaponry and still dont control all of it.
this was meant to be the invasion of Ukraine, not Bakhmut! how embarrassing......if they expend thousands of men and a year on one city, what on earth are they going to do else where?
and its all Wagner, not even Russian state troops!
how is Vulhedar going Max?
"more sanctions will probably work"
yes they probably will. Russia was meant to grow 6% in 2022, and it fell 3%, thats a 9% contraction in real terms. add to that they are artificially propping up the ruble and have an extremely weak financial and tech sector even before the war, then those sanctions are hurting and the long strategically degrading nature of the sanction will hurt for years to come, not to mention the million plus working age people that fled the country, or the tens of thousands of working age men dead or disabled that will be removed from the economy.
80% of Russian oil and gas went to Europe, that markets gone. China and India buying Russian oil at 30% below market price........brilliant plan eh? and what great allies to have!
the problem with most "conspiracy theorists" are they arent educated, intelligent and a lot dont have very fulfilling lives. hence they need to search out the preposterous, illogical, irrational ideas to make life seem more exciting. i doubt you and ****eye are exceptions to that rule.
you find something in the main stream media and immediately determine it fake simply because of its source. doesnt matter if its logical, rational, substantiated, even if its common sense or the truth. thats not "cool" or "edgy" enough. you have to find something a few nutters are shouting and screaming about from behind their keyboards and proceed to lap it up and then regurgitate it in a torrent of nonsense and unbridled stupidity.
so remind us again, when are you relocating to Russia, China, North Korea or maybe even Iran? wouldnt you be a hypocrite if you didnt go.......?