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Max

answer my questions i put to you previously (the ones you pretended you "didnt have time for"), then i will engage with you

1) Did Putin make a massive miscalculation about how willing the west would be to get involved?

2) Putin stated a primary/strategic goal of the war was to ensure the non-expansion of NATO, how did that work out for him?

3) Putin has repeatedly warned of "red lines" that shouldn't be crossed, can you confirm what he did when the West crossed them every time?

4) If NATO get fully involved in the war, who wins based on a very high degree of probability?

5) Is it the sign of a stable, just and fair leadership that on a weekly basis they repeatedly threaten to nuke major cities across the globe?

6) Russia had a single tank at their victory day parade, a T-34 which was made in the 1940's. Is that a sign of strength or weakness?

7) Who won the cold war and why did the USSR collapse?

8) Before the Maidan Revolution the democratically elected Ukrainian parliament voted to remove the Russian puppet president Viktor Yanukovych, what were the numbers of the Yes to No votes cast for his removal from office?

"Well, the collective West has redirected more than $100b in taxpayer money"

first off, that is the only response to my losses of "men and materiel" question then? brilliant.

secondly, you do realise its not just simply $100b of "tax payer money"? That is a blatant lie/propaganda line or you just don't know what you are talking about.

weaponry is a huge part of that figure, do you know how much of that is going to be saved in decommissioning costs?

and do you want to work out what that $100 billion works out per capita?

and yes on Ukraines losses, but Ukraine is not part of "the west", so another moot point. Add to that Ukraine didnt choose to be invaded, they have to fight or risk losing their freedoms, so their sacrifices are worth far, far more than anything Russia has to offer it's people, so another irrelevant point.

and no the sanctions haven't driven the Saudis away, it's the US's stance on human rights issues.

how has Germany been humiliated exactly?

cheap energy to China? eh, how is that a win for Russia, it's literally selling its most valuable export at prices way lower than it was pre war, and lower than current market prices, Russia is losing out far more than the West on the energy front.

"Have fun paying stupid power bills and having your daughter turned into a fake man by bolshevik groomers"

and well, that is just the ramblings of cerebrally challenged buffoon

Max, you are bordering on insane. You are utterly, positively, categorically deluded.

"Ukraine he's winning hands down" ........how? Is it because Russia still hold 17% of Ukrainian territory? (despite holding 25% one month into the war)

I bet in your uneducated mind the Nazi's only started losing WW2 when they were pushed back to their own borders then, right?

And if Putin is not only beating Ukraine, he is also beating the West, can you tell us all (this will be funny) how much the West has lost by supporting Ukraine then? Come on, lets tally up Russian losses, men and materiel, with that of the West? Or is that another question you conveniently don't have "time" to answer?

"he's united the world with the West as enemy number one"

What on earth are you going on about, you aren't even trying to be believable anymore. Why lie about something so blatantly false it would take a 5 second google to prove you wrong? Is there genuinely something wrong with you?

list the countries that vote with Russia at the UN, come on, lets see if you have an ounce of honesty in you?

And then this "world" in your head doesn't include the USA, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Greece, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, New Zealand, Chezch Republic, Croatia, Iceland, Luxembourg, Norway, Slovenia, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Canada?

Because those are all the ones that have been supplying weapons and aid to assist Ukraine

and then addiotnally the UN vote for Russia to immediately cease its invasion of Ukraine was 141 against Russia and 7 for Russia......do you want to tell the BB who those 7 were? LOL

then have a look a the list of the countries providing aid to Ukraine, magically these are the most developed and democratic countries on the planet. they have the highest levels of education, social care, standards of living and GDP per capitas........but yeh YOU are the one on the right side of history, right?

mental, simply mental

but yes the "world" is with Russia............you're such an idiot Max

*if it wasn't all so tragic, it would be hilarious

Swell, it is no use engaging with this lunatic. I have tried (on several occasions) to extract some sane, logical, moral, reality based commentary from this uneducated, ill researched, deluded nutter, but it will always be to no avail with max.

He constantly refers to Putin as this genius who will get what he wants and everything is going to plan in Ukraine.

It is mind boggling that no matter what information comes out from Ukraine and everything involved with it, he refuses to accept reality, no doubt due to his utterly depraved and irrational obsession with a 5ft 2in murderous botox filled dictator.

Russia's failures and international embarrassment have been mounting week after week, month after month for a year and half now, and Max still refuses to admit it or is simply too dumb to realise it. You simply wont get an honest adult reply from him.

He doesn't want to admit Russia cant possibly get more out of this war than they put in.

Hundreds of thousands of working age men dead and wounded, hundreds of thousands fled the country removing themselves from the economy.

Russia failed in taking Kyiv, they failed in stopping NATO expand, they spent tens months taking one town (Bakhmut) at the loss of over 10,000 dead and that is despite having an artillery advantage of 10-1 and local air superiority. And they haven't even managed to advance on a single other front for the last 9 months.

The leadership bomb schools, hospitals, play grounds, shopping malls, residential buildings, killing women, children, babies and if that wasn't disgusting enough on its own they then cry "terrorism" when Ukraine attack their Black Sea Fleet.

They have lost half their heavy weaponry and armour, and now they are wheeling out tanks from the 1940's to the front line. 80of their "elite" units gone

Their soldiers shoot each other if they retreat, there have been videos of castration, beheadings, mass graves and executions, yet still Max will support it.

The only nations that actually vote with Russia at the UN are Syria, Iran, North Korea and Belarus. But yet again Max seems to think that utterly laughable set of allies is something to be proud of and evidence of the west losing.

The west keep crossing every single red line the Kremlin set down and then Russia stamp their feet like petulant children, threaten to nuke every major western city at least once a week, yet Max is in awe of these utter buffoons.

Number of Russians living in absolute poverty has gone from 12 million to 22 million since the start of the invasion. the Ruble is the worst performing major currency of this year. oil and gas revenues are down 40%. Russia is running its biggest ever trade deficit on record. historic rate rises have just been implemented. yet despite all those facts, morons like Max will claim "sanctions arent working", even when Putin himself asked sanctions to be removed as a bargaining chip for re-entering the grain deal.

if it wasn't so all tragi

Max

I assume by the lack of any rebuttal and/or answers to a single one of my previous questions you are admitting you don't have a leg to stand on and as usual in the face of facts, logic, common sense and reality your argument just falls away?

Then on to your question, it's tricky one to answer for multiple reasons

Firstly you are an idiot. Therefore what would be the point of me engaging with someone who not only has a brain as smooth as an egg, but consumes the most utterly laughable propaganda and regurgitates as gospel?

The last time you gave us your "prediction" for the outcome of the war it simply stated "the Russians are going to kill every last Ukrainian" and of course that's as stupid as all your other moronic comments combined. So it's a dilemma for me in the sense that is the sort of person you are asking me to debate with, so again i ask myself what is the point?

Finally you are pro-russian, so not only do refuse to engage in any sort of critical thought process, apply any common sense to your statements, you also (like all pro-russians) have to lie. That's not debateable, the Kremlin lies pretty much every time they make a statement, you and your ilk then repeat it like a braindead zombies, so essentially you are always lying. And who wants to argue with someone so fundamentally deluded and dishonest?

So here's a deal, lets see if you can be honest about a few things. Things that are easily provable, not up for debate and will be blindingly obvious if your answer is true or not. If you answer honestly, i'll give you my view on Ukraines future. So here we go....

1) Did Putin make a massive miscalculation about how willing the west would be to get involved?

2) Putin stated a primary/strategic goal of the war was to ensure the non-expansion of NATO, how did that work out for him?

3) Putin has repeatedly warned of "red lines" that shouldn't be crossed, can you confirm what he did when the West crossed them every time?

4) If NATO get fully involved in the war, who wins based on a very high degree of probability?

5) Is it the sign of a stable, just and fair leadership that on a weekly basis they repeatedly threaten to nuke major cities across the globe?

6) Russia had a single tank at their victory day parade, a T-34 which was made in the 1940's. Is that a sign of strength or weakness?

7) Who won the cold war and why did the USSR collapse?

8) Before the Maidan Revolution the democratically elected Ukrainian parliament democratically voted to remove the Russian puppet president Viktor Yanukovych, what were the numbers of the Yes to No votes cast for his removal from office?

Most sane people would filter those that talk about subjects they dont want to hear about.......

putup......most sane and civilised people feel the same

in fact max and ****eye actually feel the same too or they wouldn't live in the west would they?

they are, simply put, utter frauds.

they just regurgitate this absolute drivel because people who live in the west and speak out against their own governments, whilst praising tyrannical murderous dictators like putin, are really "cool" and "intellectual" and "edgy"..... at least that is how they see themselves.

it doesn't matter if their views lack any critical thought process, common sense, morality, decency, honesty, logic, the chant will go on "down with the west" - a.k.a "down with where i choose to live and will not move from"

if they were men of their word they would relocate to the likes of iran, syria, north korea, belarus, russia where things are so much better, right?

i mean just look at their human rights history, look at the human development index.........

utterly laughable

"russian propaganda, all russian propaganda is banned"

so your first retort is to flat out lie and to make it so easily provable its a lie it is baffling. so you are claiming there is no russian propaganda on twitter, instagram, facebook, youtube at all then? you are mental.

"mariupol" yup russia won that

"bakhmut" yup wagner took that rubble but now russian troops are losing ground everyday, are you even checking the conflict maps?

"offensive" - which one? the russian one where they couldn't advance anywhere along the entire front but bakhmut, where it took 10 months to take one town at the cost of tens of thousands of dead and wounded?

or are you talking about the ukrainian kherson and kharkiv offensive last summer where ukr took back 40% of russias gains in the space of 2 months?

or are you talking about the current offensive where ukraine have committed less than 15% of their reserves and have made more gains in the last month than russia did during their whole winter offensive?

and as ****eye cant explain why there needed to be a faux coup to simply move wagner to belarus, can you help him?

and one final question for you and ****eye, when did the nazi's start losing ww2? i presume your logic will be it was only when they were forced back behind their own borders?

"I told you at the start, and I'll tell you again; Russia is going to get everything it wants out of this war and NATO will make a humiliating retreat just like it did with Afghanistan"

yes you did tell me that at the start, but the fact you have been proven wrong yet still claim your prediction is valid is nothing short of mind boggling.

Russia wanted to ensure no further NATO expansion - categorical fail

Russia wanted to scare the West into not getting involved - categorical fail

Russia wanted to take Kyiv - categorical fail

Russia wanted to topple and replace the western leaning government - categorical fail

Russia wanted to "demilitarize" Ukraine - categorical fail

they have changed the goal posts so many times its beyond sad.

so explain to us all mere mortals if Russia takes 10 months to take one small town, how is it going to get "everything" it wants?

and in conclusion to my previous questions, you have absolutely no retort in why it makes any sense a faux coup was needed to move Wagner to Belarus?

like all previous scenarios where you are challenged with facts, common sense and logic you simply just avoid the question and deflect?

p.s. do you know what "retreat" means? if so can you confirm when the Taliban militarily forced NATO to "retreat"?......i shan't hold my breath

Yes you did specifically mention Elon, own it, don't lie.

And again you are just regurgitating moronic, baseless Russian propaganda. Where is the is peace agreement Boris made Ukraine turn down? If it existed there would at least be some shred of evidence of such a document.....funny that it has NEVER made an appearance eh?

No one is questioning the US has always wanted to weaken Russia, but if you are still claiming Russia had "no choice" but to invade Ukraine, you are even more beyond help than I thought.

Add to that if that's what the US wanted, then Putin has to be pretty stupid to just give them that then, right?

Yes "some" alliances have shifted away, but the West is more united than ever and their militaries, economies, technologies, finances, dwarf those that actually fully stand behind Russia.

look at NATO now, more members than ever, larger border shared with Russia than ever, more financial commitment than ever. THE worlds largest and most powerful military alliance has just got bigger and stronger because of Putin's actions, not even someone as deluded and dishonest as you can even argue with that surely?

but Putin is a genius right, all "psy-ops"......"lets get hundreds of thousands of my troops WIA and KIA whilst making NATO stronger"...........errrrrr, why?

look at who votes with Russia at the UN, Syria, Iran, Belarus, North Korea all tin-pot dictator ships that if you added up their respective GDP's they come to about 2% of just the US's......these alliances are trash

India and China never vote with Russia, they just dont condemn them so they can continue buying oil at 30% discounts to market value......hell of an "alliance" that

so in your deluded and twisted mind you want people to believe that gang 1, is better/stronger than gang 2......and gang 2 is isolated??? wtf are going on about, isolated from who?

1) Russia, Belarus, Syria, Iran, North Korea

2) US, UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, South Korea, New Zealand, Australia, Japan, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Austria, Japan, Canada, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Portugal

do you want to compare the nominal GDP's of the 2, the GDP per capitas, the education systems, social care, technology sectors, financial sectors, infrastructure, music, sport, film, culture, cars, freedom of speech?

you're argument is bordering on insanity, and to add to it all you CHOOSE to live in the west.........what a hypocrite

oooooohhhhhh dear ****eye, your "proof" is some random twitter account which explains nothing, no modus operandi, no logic, no common sense

just read the comments to the post, for god sake man, wake up!

and i just remembered you were claiming several months ago elon musk was in the throes of putting together a peace agreement (come on, you have to admit that was even stupid for you and that's saying summat)..........could you let us have an update on that front please?

you honestly must have an iq below room temperature, how do you not drown in the shower?

p.s putin moved nukes to belarus with out the need of a faux coup.........what are your thoughts on that? kinda contradicts your already baseless and illogical take on the need to concoct a charade to move wagner there?

lol standard ****eye response, i am surprised you haven't linked an article that directly contradicts your argument yet, #chinesenavy

where did i say it was a genuine attempt to take moscow? what is the point arguing something i never claimed, are you ok hun?

the problem with you and your ilk ****eye is you fail to apply any common sense or logic to anything, like the covid vaccine, 911, this war.........if it was "psy-ops" there has to be a benefit to it.......you or max have failed to explain that.

so again why kill wagner troops, let wagner troops shoot down helicopters and planes, make your self look weak by having a pmc stage a coup in the first place, then look even weaker by saying there will be grave consequences for wagner, subsequently confirming they wont face a single criminal charge?

max's argument was the whole reason was to move wagner to belarus, well why? why not just move them? why on earth go through this so called charade? you are literally making zero sense.

so come on einstein answer the only question that matters...........why?

"routing ukrainian and nato forces and taking the immensely important strategic city"

again this shows the absolute degradation your cerebral cortex has suffered by only listening to pro-russian sources.

firstly claiming russia are directly "fighting nato" is one of the most moronic pro-russian claims. ukraine are fighting russia with decades old nato weaponry that equate to about 1% of the collective wests gdp. for your simple brain to understand it, if me and you were in a boxing ring and mike tyson gave me his gloves, are you then fighting me and mike tyson? dont be a moron.

secondly wagner lost (kia) 10-20,000 troops taking a small city of limited strategic importance. if it so important to russia explain why? what have they done since, what are they going to do with a pile of rubble?

it's important to ukraine because they have to make a stand at every city, or the next one over just gets levelled to the ground by artillery, not because it has overall "strategic" importance.

and again, like i asked max, what are wagner going to do with kyiv? russia failed the first time and they had more than double wagner troops, they have an air force, ukraine didnt have as many western defence systems back then, etc

wagner also took 10 months to take a town with a pre-war population of 70,000. do you even have the slightest concept of what man power it would take to conquer kyiv with wagner tactics?

then lets not forget putin's calls/aims in this war, divide the west, demilitarize, stop nato enlarging, stop nato expanding to russias borders, create red lines every week that are crossed with no consequence, assume a quick capitulation of ukraine. it's strategic defeat after strategic defeat and you nutters still pretend he is some 4d chess player who is out smarting everyone and everything that has gone wrong is simply a cunning deflection.

utterly mental, and all wh

"Rumours are it was psyops"

hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaaha.........utterly, categorically, positively, unequivocally braindead and brainwashed

But that is the epitome of the vatnik/tankie/pro-russian delusion.

yeh, yeh, yeh of course Max, great theory that.......well part from the fact they could have simply moved Wagner to Belarus and there was absolutely no need to carry out a fake coup to do this.

Then add in the reality Russia couldn't take Kyiv the first time round with tens of thousands more troops than Wagner has, additionally Ukraine didnt have the Western equipment/air defences back then either, plus Russia committed their most elite troops.....but yeh apart from that makes complete sense....lol

Then add in the fact that Wagner actually shot down and fired at Russian planes and helicopters, the Russians then bombed the convoys of Wagner.

Also why do all this when it just makes Putin look weak, he stated this act was an act of "treason" then agreed absolutely no criminal charges would be brought against Wagner. Mental.

I mean we've seen it all before but Max's (and that goes for all the other completely deluded pro-russians) mental gymnastics to try and convince himself "all is going to plan" is as completely pathetic as it is laughable.

"Russia are crushing Ukraine. They are actively killing every single man there, helped by Elensky. When all the men are dead they can move wherever they want"

utterly, unequivocally, positively, categorically deluded and imbecilic

you're on a whole different planet, it's no wonder the top recommended post on here from the last several weeks was one which stated you were an idiot and should be put on the filter

you couldn't have better demonstrated how completely devoid you are of any sort of rational or intelligent thought process

you have the critical thinking prowess and debating skills of an Amoeba.

"A new analysis of Institute for the Study of War data shows that, after once having seized as much as 51,000 sq miles (132,000 sq km) of Ukrainian land, Russia has since lost a fifth of this"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2023/feb/21/a-year-of-war-how-russian-forces-have-been-pushed-back-in-ukraine#:~:text=A%20new%20Guardian%20analysis%20of,in%20the%20south%20and%20east.

max, 20% of recaptured land in the space of a couple of months? what are you comments please?

what % have Russia captured in the last 10 months?

and you claim its "land no one cares about"

what a weak, feeble and illogical excuse.

firstly why did Russia take it if "they didnt care about it".........lies as per usual from you then?

secondly Ukraine want ALL their territory back, so they "care about it".......so another lie then

"Now research Bakhmut"

i already provided you with the reality of that arena, you just dont like the facts. so here we go again. Bakhmut = Wagner (not Russian regular troops) have lost thousands upon thousands of men, thousands of pieces of materiel and made about 10/20m gains per week. and after 10+ months of fighting they still dont hold the small town. so what is your point again?

"Check Russian numbers beside Western numbers"

what are you going on about? firstly do you believe the Russian numbers? because if you do you're even more stupid than i originally thought and that's say something

secondly, i dont believe Western numbers so what would be the point of that exercise?

thirdly, you give us YOUR estimates, then let us know how you arrived at them? thats WIA and KIA......i'd like to see how truly deluded you are.......?

have you checked Oryx for visually confirmed Russian materiel losses? of course you havent or if you have you will just lie and pretend all the photographic and video evidence is fake.

how is Vulhedar going?

how is every other front apart from Bakhmut going?

For Ingrid:
Facts - theories
Theories - facts

max, post up a single FACT you have presented over the last few days please? just one will do.

then review my post with the 20+ FACTS that prove the invasion was a mistake for Russia and see if you can counter any of them with logic or reason?

"Spring offensive ready. Elensky gives Russia one last chance to get out"

and yet another stupid, utterly moronic comment.

firstly how far did Russia get with their "winter offensive"?

then when Ukraine counter attacked last September, remind us of what happened please?

"But the documents do not prove Paul’s claim that Fauci was lying, as they do not make clear whether Fauci read them. Nor do they in any way support Paul’s allegation that Fauci was “responsible for 4 million people around the world dying of a pandemic” — or that anyone intentionally caused Covid-19"

****eye you have an IQ the same as room temperature. you're doing it again, posting up articles that debunk your own nonsense. lol indeed.

so again, based on the above where is the proof there was INTENT to cause covid, wheres the evidence to support your conspiracy theory that the US was behind the pandemic and all the came after?

and as you are posting up articles like this you admit a CHINESE lab was experimenting with covid, yes?

you really are a moron dude, it baffles me you manage to log on to this website everyday.

****eye another stupid and irrelevant article(s)

to start, its still a conspiracy theory is it not, please requote the definition for clarity.

secondly an excerpt from the link

"But the documents do not prove Paul’s claim that Fauci was lying, as they do not make clear whether Fauci read them. Nor do they in any way support Paul’s allegation that Fauci was “responsible for 4 million people around the world dying of a pandemic” — or that anyone intentionally caused Covid-19"

so again, nothing but speculation, and complete absence of proof.......so in line with literally everything you post here!

and your admitting the source is still China, Wuhan?

and the government you praise so vehemently had no idea this was happening in their own back yard? so America got one over on them?

and here's an article from an actual reputable source that counters you narrative......easy this innit?

https://www.webmd.com/covid/coronavirus-history

"Today Finland has become the 31st member of the Nato security alliance, doubling the length of member states' borders with Russia"

ah yes the direct consequence of Russias (the "chess master" lol) invasion of Ukraine........all going perfectly in accordance with Putins fool proof plan.........priceless