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"Its just my opinion but there is an almighty power struggle to come here involving Kelso and associated parties if things stay like this. maybe it's actually what the powers that be are after."
OSG ... I feel Kelso have been castrated by way of Matt buying up shares in Kelso and building to 10% to stop any chance of anything happening. AIMHO
Hi Cong, nope your understanding on it is the same as mine ... news of deal resurrected and going through and then nothing
"Can't see THG going back to make another offer at Adore Beauty but MM recently had a dig at LSE saying companies that have T/O approaches outside of the LSE tend to stay inflated to around the offer price, but not on the LSE"
That's more than a bit rich considering he didn't deem the 35%, and the market, worthy of knowing the price of the Apollo bids !!
"@ihavenoclue - I hope all of the responses have helped clarify this matter. The company performance has not been strong enough across the board, and the share price very much reflects this."
But he isn't pushed into a corner. He calls the 35% "fast money" and the 65% support means he is just as safe as he has been for a long while so I don't really understand your statement.
Even the Kelso tapping up part of the 65% has been dealt with.
How does the saying go ? The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent ... or something along those lines
Yup ... last time it was over 150p :(
Hi Novice, I was referring to Belerion and King Street offer of 170p a share back in May 2022.
No idea the price of the two Apollo offers last year.
How many companies have turned down an offer as it hugely undervalues the company only to be sat at 33% of that "undervaluation" 18 months later ?
Doyezee ... yup that is clear.
I am not sure how MM is being backed into a corner as it is all his own making.
He seems to feel he is David fighting Goliath but he really needs to follow his own LinkedIn advice. And that video was just weird ... you can do that crap AFTER you emerge victorious but while the phoenix is still very much in the bonfire.
I really hope he has things lined up otherwise he is a pretty damaged individual IMHO Did THG just spend £15m on splitting divisions without any serious intent to actually do it and just to try and keep people quiet while MM gets the price higher with THG as it is ?
" it is clear that Matthew has been backed into a corner."
In what way ? Please explain
Why has MM increased stake ? You would know the answer if you can see what shareholders can do at certain percentages. I feel he is aiming for 10%
Wasn't even close to a reversal .. still very much in downtrend
Pmh198... So I take it you have contacted THG to request this? Or are you just whining here about people who are doing the same as you to effect the change you want?
"So why did the stock market crash when covid and the war started eh"
Isn't that obvious??? No one knew what was going to happen or how bad !! E-commerce then did well as people had a lot more free time and couldn't go out to spend it.
MM has liked a new Brew Dog product now ... going full butt kiss mode now
"Created a new account to post that rubbish!" ???
" If they have a huge new contract with HB why the job cuts."
Did you not read the RNS ????
""We feel this is a true demonstration of how the THG Ingenuity platform can provide incremental services to established brands, delivering operational excellence, becoming world class at a fraction of the cost and in a fraction of the time.""
They do that with automation not humans ...if they got rid of the automation and used all humans and costs would spiral and you would be even more unhappy, Some people are never pleased !!
"Without a hostile takeover or an activist shareholder we won’t see 150p again in our lifetimes."
One of the most stupid lines I have ever seen on a thread in over 20 years.
All it will take is one party to pay a certain amount for a % of a division and suddenly value will be added well over 150p. Rock used to just be a griping waste of air but now he is clearly deluded IMHO
Not bloody obvious ? I have seen all the theories of how Kelso was sat down and told "Everything will be alright" and now they are happy to wait.
Kelso don't own 10% ... they don't even own 1% .. they own HALF of one percent. They have no power at all and MM only did the pac man defence when Kelso started talking to the larger holders as that is where the leverage is.
And if you don't think that MM owning 6% has made any difference to Kelso, and are happy to believe the theory above, then carry on with your head in the sand :)
"Do any of the LTH think that the Kelso response was a bit subdued? The change of tone, from challenging to relatively soft, suggests to me that they are now accepting the current situation. Perhaps John/Matt have discussed the optionality plans for the future. As McDonald is involved with both men, it could be part of the reason he’s still standing."
Why the wild theories when the truth is bloody obvious ??? MM now owns 6% of Kelso ... look at the wording before and after he hit that %,