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Age.. its possible that if amc see this thread they might take greater care with shareholders interests in order that rto doesn't get voted down. A good rto would be much better than "special div capital return"
nb I moved my nickel etf profit into urnp uranium etf in the summer, As there is a known shortfall. So far only 10pc up, are u in uranioum? Any thoughts? There has just been a new uranium miners etf created.
Anyone in oxford bio? A group of scientists created a non intrusive psa addon test.. told the market they done a trial 98pc accurate... 6 months later results show they sold very few. mmm amazing story and a board hugely experienced in their field and not capable of finance deals sales, jobs to familly,... sound familiar ?????
Anyone care to give a quick resume of differences between urnp urnj and possible performance differences.
very surprised urnp has dropped almost 2000 to 1800
Still looking for multiples of this price.
Im with interactive investor, trying to find out if they trade this.
Agnes Please respond to this thro away email and I will send you my em.
My throaway em gwm133@hotmail.com
Folks, agness will put a lot of work into the treatment of special div capital return. when he gets a ruling we can all benefit from this. He has asked for emails for a group for this and forthcoming amc antics.
My view on return capital or rto is that if negotiated on good terms the rto is better as shares can be sold including the new higher value than cash. The problem will be, is amc board interests aligned with shareholders interests.
If a special dividend is given to return cash this take time.......... !&! and amc may not be clear on the tax treatment.
Agness
Would it hinder or help your case for anyone else interested to use the same wording as yourself ?
Can some peeps using different wording get a different result?
if you go to all this trouble and get capital return result, does that apply to all others or is each case assessed separately? If so it seems unfair its the first applicant who has does all the work and others don't have to.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT OTHER AMC HOLDERS CAN DO WHICH WOULD HELP YOU.
For the time involved is it worth sending email or letters with the document you are suggesting asking amc to confirm its capital repayment.
nb after your previous musings on this I was going to put it it the tax form under capital loss uk share.
Agness
So will we each go to a tribunal individually with an accountant advisor tax expert? £££££££s
Would seem strange that for most long term holders with an average of say 10p, recouping 1.8pfrom the assetts sale, and say 2p from the eventual sale of the residue, should pay tax on the LOSS incurred...... (buy 10p sell 4p)
I really don't want the worry in the background of any uncertainty here. If the rto isnt voted through and cash returned, depending what they call it you might be paying top rate tax on all your amc loss!!!!!!
It would save enormous heartache money and worry for ry to rns that this was capital return.
Is it worth a number of lth all sending an email same wording to amc and brokers politely /desperately / requesting this?
Do you know what the best emails are currently?
Agness
Have you lost money on amc?
If the special div was dividend not capital return when you eventually sell all amc you will have paid tax on a LOSS, (as part of this loss was special divi !!)
There was one knowledgeable poster who replied to me on this, ive got copies in my tax files somewhere, who said it was most definitely capital return, referring to different bank accounts et all, (far above my knowledge) Ill dig them out and post them if you wish.
IF an enquiry is raised the issue will be the large cost of a s[ecialist tax advisor accountant to discussit with the revenue, and the worry of a possible investigation over years to come. By then amc will be gone, presumably ii will close the board, and we will all have to get our tax advisors individually.
All this could have been avoided if amc had called it capital return not special dividend. (after advice)
However good amc investment is I will sell in this tax year if I am able so at least the whole amount returned is in one tax year.
I met RY on many occasions and invested on his personality and amazing drill results. It was confusing he never bought large amounts of shares with his own money. it was then disappointing to watch bad business decisions coupled with no news/delayed news, and his continued drawing of (HIGH) salary when the exploration stopped.
There are no fee no win companies after compensation re Woodford and Eros Media. I hope they don't see an opportunity here.
All, the question is, over time are the top funds (historically) nlikely to outperform a retail investor holding say 10 of the usual shares. fund types im thinking of examples like polar cty jp morgon growth income.
My 2usual" 10 shares r royce vod lgen aviva tesco etc have performed better than funds....
As said, i would much rather 3 funds to buy and forget !
And with a pension to drawdown shortly, even more important,
Surely a managed fund especially in tech sector should do better than retail investors with 10 or so stocks????
This was 900 3 yrs ago....
A very standard researched set of 10 stocks by an average investor...ie aviva lgen glaxo r royce i uranium tesco e mostly high div or well known blue chip have performed way better than polar or cts, funds with top managers....
How come??????
i so want to convert a pension pot to drawdown not an annuity, and would rather used managed funds.
Risk
Can you see a high chance of a RISING divi here.
u are right, if you started here 2 years ago the stock price now unchanged.
I so wish to invest in a high div gowth fund instead of choosing own stocks, however my choices, and they are pretty avege.. likes of lgen aviva r royce uranioum vod tesco have stock price up and way higher div. Surely it cant be right an average person with 10 or so shares can beat these funds??????? Id far rather buy funds and forget about them.
St peter
how bigger help iyo ????????
Back to previous highs of few years ago????? or just a 300% uplift or so?
Sure
mmm no, confused this starvest business and its effect on ggp. Please preciis.. thx.
Invested here due clarity and newsflow of management, that was 3 years ago, not the same now. (amazingly a big loss, and hoping it doubles triples its previous peaks.
Any lth......
dlg was £4 in feb 22 right? other insurers have pretty much recovered now.
Any idea whats happening with div policy? Pls....... Thx.
Why is this site so unreliable on divi info for many companies? Look under fundamentals tab (strange choice!) for the super div here.
Whats your thoughts on putting some ££s here as opposed to aviva lgen phoenix.. chat not advice.
(Im in, small initial amount already down 5pc unlike most other shares zooming up. (r royce oxford bio glaxo etc.
And...
Surely tesco has done well anyway? For last 2 years uptrend 200 to 300, thats 25pc cap gain and 4pc div total return 29%
If you want high div, look at ...70 percent from eros 9pc bonds, ....presently priced at 10p, !!!£! they pay late but have always paid, and cap return probably ok now as couple of big cos now involved. Less safe than Tesco of course.
I chose Tesco because its stable and ok div, its done v well though with this total return. (Its superhard to judge entry point though)
and other single divi shares as aviva lgen vod. The huge question is, is buying a fund with 4.5% RISING divi and targeted for growth a better option long term than single shares.
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nb Its great when occasionally others mention similar shares the research, and super annoying when dont tell u which ones!!
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It seems to me the high divi companies mostly have greater total returns.. So hope this isnt true as love lbuy forget and collect divi.
Eccles
soz your comment on education... yes I know the insurers aviva lgen 7 to 8pc, vod 12pc etc,
How do you see the stability of the ones your watching (please say which)
Do you think it is wise to have completely different sectors, tesco is different market from aviva.
.. And if there is safety in as many stocks as possible, is it better or worse than holding some sigle stocks, than a fund... a few growth and income have track record of many year divi increases ad present divs around 4 to 5pc.
is either approach safe enough to convert pension to drawdown, rather than take annuity.
..tesco.. several recent newspaper articles saying doing well and expect more. Divi likely to gently rise over time. Food allways in demand, ulta safe.
aviva ceo recently made inflammatory remarks, many on board so disgusted they said selling, and though some bulletin board sells wont move price, she was lucky not to crash the price. Your aviva also had takeover rumours late last year.
Stockbuster
Please clarify..
our pensions / pf will be reduced if another war in middle east, ... why?
You have the choice with pension of drawdown or annuity.
If more wars likely more inflation and interest rates high
therefore annuity rates higher, and high divi stocks as legan gen etc divis rise proportionate to stock.
So war is likely to increase pensions.
some stocks are advantaging the u.s /ship attacks in red sea, ... r royce.
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As an aside, its now becoming a reality we as conscious beings may be the only ones in the milky way , (fermi paradox). So we (specially world leaders) need to learn to negotiate, appreciate the others point of view, no war..... otherwise we will snuff out this little flicker of conscious life in this galaxy.
Eccles thx for sharing better shares than tesco, which ones are they !!!
how happy are you that as safe as tesco?
Need 10pc total return with low volatility and buy and forget style.
i see tesco as safer than most, the other way to improve safety/return would be to use a fund with reasonable divi, .. is a selection of shares as glaxo vod tesco legal n gen oxford bio better than a managed fund.....!