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"when are we going to learn more?"

If not before then by the end of September.

"Ping An Health and By-Health reached a strategic cooperation to promote the innovation of the "commodity + health management service" model"

"This strong alliance between the two parties is expected to combine BY-HEALTH's scientific products with Ping An Health's health management services, give full play to the advantages of the "commodity + service" innovative model, meet the comprehensive health needs of users, and help improve the health literacy level of the whole people."

https://www.pagd.net/allPage/sustainableDevelopment/article?lang=EN_US&id=100624

About Ping An Healthcare and Technology Company Limited.

"Ping An Health had nearly 43 million cumulative paying users and cumulatively served 978 enterprises as of 31 December 2022. The Company has built a team of over 49,000 in-house and external doctors in 23 practices, and signed up more than 2,000 renowned external doctors. Moreover, the Company has over 5,000 partner hospitals, and 224,000 partner pharmacies with a national coverage of over 35%. The Company has enabled 1-hour drug delivery service in 216 cities and 24/7 drug delivery service in 88 cities. In addition, Ping An Health has over 100,000 partner healthcare service providers, and over 2,000 health checkup partners in over 300 cities across the country."

https://www.pagd.net/allPage/aboutUs?lang=EN_US

Can anyone get onto By-Health's website. Seems to have been down for a few days (for me anyway).

both by-health.com and by-health.com.cn

Sphinx, I think you are comparing apples with oranges on this one.

An agreement between Firmenich and Optibiotix cannot be compared with an agreement between DSM and Provexis. DSM and Firmenich merged after the Optibiotix agreement with Firmenich so to say Opti was treated better than PXS is IMO irrelevant and a guess as neither agreement is known in full.

Relief capsules still showing out of stock. Don't think its been in stock yet tbh

https://bluetoadbotanicals.com/product/migraine-relief-capsules/

UpSpring fertility was a strange one as it was only ever available in europe on Amazon and never on the US website. I always had a feeling that this was a test product from Reckitt Benckiser.

https://myupspring.com/collections/all

https://www.reckitt.com/media-landing/press-releases/2019/rb-acquires-upspring-an-innovative-pre-and-post-natal-health-company/

Looks like the page was added 2 days ago so it might be new and they just haven't put a link to it on the website yet.

http://postimg.cc/62vVdxqD

And they still managed to pull down the sp.

Insert scratching head emoji here.

Delayed from yesterday.

Maybe they have their own special blend :-)

No product at all by the looks of it.

All the other Nutraceuticals were reviewed as finished products but Fruitflow was only shown as an ingredient even though some FF products are/were available, though not manufactured, in Russia including this one.

Viva Pyh

https://xn--80aaea3a7a0a.xn--p1ai/fitopreparaty-i-mul-tivitaminnye-kompleksy/kapsuly/viva-run/

How Russian sanctions affect dietary suppliments or the ingredients I have no idea but pretty sure a lot of products are still finding their way onto the shelves.

Best Nutraceuticals for 2023

5.10 Fruitflow Tomato Extract

Fruitflow Tomato Extract

Release form - a powder that dissolves in water for oral administration, is necessary for the normalization of the functioning of the hematopoietic organs, improves blood counts, and maintains normal platelet aggregation. Regular intake of nutraceuticals will protect blood vessels from thrombosis, prevent the development of a heart attack, stroke. With a constant intake of courses, the drug has a continuous effect.

The powder can be diluted in drink, food, supplement the intake of other dietary supplements.

Fruitflow Tomato Extract

Advantages:

Reduces the risk of heart attack and stroke;

Well tolerated;

Dissolves quickly without lumps.

Flaws:

not found.

Cost - price on request.

Источник: https://yanashla.com/luchshie-nutriczevtiki

https://yanashla-com.translate.goog/luchshie-nutriczevtiki/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Looks like a Russian website.

Think it might have been the 2.5 million sold that brought the price down 2.4%

"What is the full potential of FF ?"

If only we knew. But..... we should have a better idea once the gut health partnership starts to produce revenue and By-Health get the health function claim and products are launched.

If there was to be an offer i would rather it was then and from By-Health.

Why would you even want an offer before the full potential of Fruitflow is realised?

Another step forward for DSMs ‘health from the gut’ strategy.

https://www.dsm-firmenich.com/corporate/news/press-releases/2023/dsm-firmenich-completes-acquisition-of-postbiotics-pioneer-adare-biome.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social_post&utm_campaign=corporate_company-updates_070723

https://www.dsm.com/corporate/news/news-archive/2023/dsm-agrees-terms-to-acquire-adare-biome.html

Looks like a few tweaks.

No new health function claim as By-Health are after.

https://www.cirs-group.com/en/food/dha-and-two-proteins-added-into-health-food-raw-materials-directory-in-china

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I think IF would have went directly to the manufacturer if DSM were trying to make a profit on the remaining stock. We are already going to be paying them a royalty.

Yes, So far PXS has purchased 550,000 Euro of stock so if (and we are only going on what AD said in the article) we paid DSM 150 Euro a kilo then 550,000 divided by 150 = 3,666kg

Not sure I would go on the the best before date of FF+ as a guide as it may last longer when in its original packaging from the manufacture.

Another thing to think about for future orders. Cost of raw materials (tomatoes) and manufacture are likely to be much higher due to the cost of living increases. So if DSM did get the cost down to 150 Euro a Kilo I don't think we could rely on that price going forward.

Dr_H, Back in February 6000 RMB would have been 818 Euro so you weren't far away.

The link to Asim Duttaroys article (Feb this year) doesn't seem to work anymore but he stated that cost of manufacture was now as low as 150 Euro a Kilo

https://www.facebook.com/asim.duttaroy/posts/pfbid07U6fU3Y5vMoGq3seHu5FwQvvwJwCyxwuyqU1Kbo6vDhu9Z1dKzkF7oi4AsU7U4rul

This article (March 2021) from China quotes "ingredients such as FruitFlow Tomato Clear Juice Powder (6000RMB/kg), high phytoene content tomato powder (8000RMB/kg)"

https://mbd.baidu.com/newspage/data/landingsuper?baijiahao_id=1693898004131476920&id=1693898004131476920&wfr=spider&for=pc&third=baijiahao&c_source=kunlun&p_tk=9730STo9J072M1g0xXZRVfXfOzJJ9r8LvLuQGv4skK7MNiAqI8HYeB9K09cgtOn8fiMSVMUcB1umi2hwOL4dYQ2AIERpR0rat9oadroAjcCpXHq2bwDAtOwzJR9p22EoZ2di4FVXwXIzQKC7fm8PxL8YDg%3D%3D&p_timestamp=1675530080&p_sign=e431b0d5367a77fa702f49d6eee0bfe3&p_signature=026274465313f9b0ccec538b807c2596&__pc2ps_ab=9730STo9J072M1g0xXZRVfXfOzJJ9r8LvLuQGv4skK7MNiAqI8HYeB9K09cgtOn8fiMSVMUcB1umi2hwOL4dYQ2AIERpR0rat9oadroAjcCpXHq2bwDAtOwzJR9p22EoZ2di4FVXwXIzQKC7fm8PxL8YDg%3D%3D

So at 6000 RMB = 762 Euro