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Can anyone please tell me what the latest RNS actually means please. Is the ZeroCoaster thing a research project, or an actual product in development? What is the contractual terms for AFC? Until we know these details (which I don't believe are in the public domain), the RNS effectively carries the same weight as an MOU, and this may well be the reason for the price remaining a little sticky.

I wonder what the institutional investors who dropped about £36M into the company and who are now sat on a paper loss of about £8M make of it? It would be interesting to hear what assurances they were given before spaffing that much cash, were they given more realistic time lines, and are aware of the possibility of a short term dip when the "expectations" weren't delivered, or were they played.......is there going to be blood on the boardroom carpet? who knows......

Any postings from random people of here has no effect on the share price whatsoever, including shameless ramping in the face of the fact that, as of today's date, there is no significant news which is capable of affecting the share price in the minds of the people who count, namely the institutional investors. It is the actions of these people, who trade significant volume that affect the market, and NOT a (relatively) micro holding private investor.
The fact is, Bond has set an ambitious agenda, and by making this public, has created an expectation which may to a degree already be factored into the share price. If the expectations are not me, then we may be lucky to plateau at the current price, but we may well see a tanking of the share price. Conversely, if more items on the agenda are delivered, then the market may react favourably, and there could be an uplift in share price. We simply don't know, we are mere passengers, and any profit /loss made as a consequence of our holdings is at the gift of the real decision makers, namely the company, its customers, and the institutions.
As of today's date, we only have one real piece of news which hasn't affected the share price, but the show's not over insofar as Bond's delivery is concerned, so why don't we all bide our time, see what happens between now and the new year, and THEN we can all take a view on the performance of the company (and Bond) safe in the knowledge of whether the CSF's have been met. Until then, maybe we should all keep our own counsel.
That includes you, delusional ramping McFool!

Someone obviously wasn't paying attention to their actual lessons in class when they should have been, they were busy cherry picking and quoting parts of an interview out of context; makes a change from the usual cut and paste drivel. Might be wrong, there may be a Mcflurry of orders for the L series coming over the hill soon, you never know....

For a moment, I thought I was being accused of stealing our glorious leader's mojo....Austin powers reference for the Seg.....

Can anyone explain how the AFC cell dovetails into the ABB charger please. Does the cell work as an on demand supply in its own right, or does it run 24/7 charging a separate storage medium (battery / supercapacitor, etc.)? As I understand it, using a fuel cell as an on demand supply puts more load on the catalysts, and therefore leads to a more rapid degradation in charge density. However, using the thing in a steady state form extends the life of the unit, but the carbon cost of creating the storage medium is not insignificant. it all seems a bit of a conundrum to me, and I'm just wondering whether ABB have done the carbon math on this, and whether the supporting data is in the public domain.
I'm just trying to get a better understanding of where the company product is now, as the proposed environment is completely different from where it was way back in the days of the "low hanging fruit" where the projected loads were, I believe meant to be more of a steady state than the spiky environment that is the case with EV charging.
Any input would be appreciated

Sorry, wring board O/T

OK Mum, I'll be down for tea once I' finished my homework

Ade
Please don't go! It will be a lonely place!

Aim
I rest my case. Yet again, we have a situation where anyone who casts any kind of doubt about the likelihood of masses of jam tomorrow is regarded as a heretic, and subjected to a vast amount of vitriol, with no consideration as to whether they may, or may not have a valid point. The fact is, there have actually been no commercial sales of a viable product yet, and the company is still effectively in development mode, and we have yet to see any hard data on things such as longevity of the catalysts used, or degradation of charge density, which were, I recall, an issue with the early developments, and I therefore personally think it's a little premature to get a stiffy over potential sales of a product which may well have been superceded by a new product which is still in development.
I don't have a problem with enthusiastic posters on the boards who have genuine insightful comments to make, and believe it or not, I want the product to succeed, but it is the complete intolerance which really gets to me. Can no one actually respond to anything that is critical of the company by saying "I hear what you say, but the counter argument could be....." rather than "You de ramping heretic!"
On the matter of the apparent negativity of my posts, all I can say is DUH! if my major beef is with the intolerant nature of the delusional "tomowwow we'll all be miwwionares wodney" brigade, who sometimes act like a bunch of suckers who have been ripped off in a Nigerian oil scam but are in denial, then OF COURSE my posts will be seen as negative.
As for the criticism of my skepticism over the current deal, I appreciate that ABB is a multi billion company, and it is this fact that makes me wary. They are intent on bringing their product to market, and the AFC element is key; given that this whole sector is an emerging market, there is clear advantage in being ahead of the curve, and one would logically assume that there would be a will to fast track the development of the AFC element (S Series) , which I would have assumed would require a little more input than a staged payment of a mere £4M, which is a mere drop in the ocean to a multi billion company. any thoughts on this anyone?

I do indeed know who ABB are, and I also know that the mega deal everyone is creaming themselves over doesn’t actually amount to a whole hill of beans in either absolute terms, or relative to the combined strength of ABB. The thing has even been backed up with a sweetener in the form of the warrants which they don’t even need to exercise if it all goes south. Remember, AFC has previous form on moving on to new developments before they ever have to undertake the hard yards involved in getting something actually market ready and this is starting to show the same pattern.
Or alternatively just keep listening to the delusional drivel from Mc Rampup who is still pushing the “jam tomorrow” line…..

Or it could be that the market isn’t impressed by the non-deal that’s just been announced and they are doing all possible to stop an implosion. Is there actually a sale ready product, or have we just entered into another round of “development “ in order to buy more time and stop the world seeing that the emperor indeed has no clothes?

Ade is Jaknife!

All gone a bit quiet..........................

Gas moisturising is probably something to do with people getting all creamy about the big bucks they are going to make out of their shares in a certain company, whose product is heavily dependent on a very light gas.........might be a long wait though, as the big bucks will only come when the company has an actual product that is sale ready, and has actually signed up an order for the sale of said product. I fear many more "holding pattern, jam tomorrow" platitudes from the management before they discover a wonderful new avenue to go down, so they can start the development cycle all over again.....my bet is a domestic CHP, except they may well have missed the boat on that one, as someone has already got one to work.
I'm afraid there is actually some validity to the stance taken by Garonne and Ade, simply because this thing will only bounce along within a certain track without some form of hard news, which on previous performance never actually seems to materialise, and as a consequence, the only ones making money out of the stock are those who actually trade it. Shame really........

I'd have thought you could do it whilst "keeping one eye on the laptop"

I guess Haggis is "working from home"...............wouldn't get away with only keeping one eye on the old laptop at my place!
Still, I suppose it's a bit more productive than watching netflix or doing the Peloton..

What is it with you lot? What you don't seem to get is that the market does what the market does, and all of the so called ramping and de ramping that everyone gets so hot under the collar about makes not one jot of difference to the share price, the only thing that really matters is sentiment, insofar as large investors are concerned, and with the lack of anything significant by way of anything other than waffle and jam tomorrow, there will be little confidence. Can we PLEASE get back to posting relevant info on the company (which is interesting and useful) and stop this incessant back biting which is infantile and boring.....Yup, there will no doubt be a vitriolic response to this, but hey ho, I just felt I needed to vent my spleen about the descent of the board into something akin to lord of the flies. and before you ask, in long and deep, bought in way back in the Balchin days, so have witnessed the full rollercoaster......

Arrogant know all.........

How long before the company changes tack and ditches the EV charger, and starts developing the "next big thing"?