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Arron J, the keyboard warrior......................try pulling your neck in. The last post was completely beyond the pale.

Further to earlier
Any ideas the contents of Ramping Crew's greatest hits album anyone.....

Aaron J
please define "many year"
I think October 2010, when the price was 67 pence would qualify as "many year" what about those people who bought in way back then off the back of the "next big thing" who are still waiting.....way back then we had the same old same old "MOU with John Lewis" "low hanging fruit with Akzo Nobel" " reinvented croissant machine for making catalyst cakes" and all of that which effectively came to naught.
I'm not saying that AFC is a dog, more like a leopard which can't change its spots......actually, i suppose it is a bit like a dog, in that it doesn't seem to be able to learn any new tricks, just regurgitates the same old jam tomorrow spin.....
Interesting point, if you look at the membership details of the "ramping crew" (Notes, I really like that, makes them sound like an eighties boy band) they almost to a man have memberships of less than three years, which in the gestation period of this company is but the blink of an eye........
In summary Aaron J, get your facts right before posting drivel......any thoughts on the balance sheet strength of the promoters of "Jetson City"? no, thought not, because the complete lack of equity in the group indicates that this is just another piece of zeitgeist driven spin, like all of the "next big things" which have gone before.

Aaron J
please define "many year"
I think October 2010, when the price was 67 pence would qualify as "many year" what about those people who bought in way back then off the back of the "next big thing" who are still waiting.....way back then we had the same old same old "MOU with John Lewis" "low hanging fruit with Akzo Nobel" " reinvented croissant machine for making catalyst cakes" and all of that which effectively came to naught.
I'm not saying that AFC is a dog, more like a leopard which can't change its spots......actually, i suppose it is a bit like a dog, in that it doesn't seem to be able to learn any new tricks, just regurgitates the same old jam tomorrow spin.....
Interesting point, if you look at the membership details of the "ramping crew" (Notes, I really like that, makes them sound like an eighties boy band) they almost to a man have memberships of less than three years, which in the gestation period of this company is but the blink of an eye........
In summary Aaron J, get your facts right before posting drivel......any thoughts on the balance sheet strength of the promoters of "Jetson City"? no, thought not, because the complete lack of equity in the group indicates that this is just another piece of zeitgeist driven spin, like all of the "next big things" which have gone before.

you'd normally expect a bit of resource on the balance sheet though.......

Not wanting to be a bit of a killjoy, but has anyone looked at the financials of Urban Airport and its parent company and fellow subsidiaries?
Anyone like to have a look and comment?

I'm hoping for AB
Redemption song - Bob Marley
I'm hoping generally
The only way id up - Yazz
You could say
Things can only get better - D Ream
But at the moment
I'm still waiting - Diana Ross
But hopefully not
Going Down - Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jeff Beck

Look folks, we are where we are, whether due to lack of progress on development, economic jitters because of the Ukraine thing, or whatever. Spouting AB this, AB that, troll, ramper and all that aint gonna change things a jot....we're all passengers on this crazy train, so why not have some fun while we wait.........anybody got any ideas for AFC related song titles? best answers on a postcard please.....

Hahahahahah!

I'm afraid it really is looking like they have a concept looking for an application, and are basically taking a punt on anything that they think may be suitable. The question is whether the fundamentals of the cell itself are sound, and that's what we really don't know. There have been too many false dawns over the years with "the next application that everyone will want" none of which have actually delivered, and this is what the mental basher day trader conmen are generally concerned about. It's all well and good having a concept, and even a proof of concept, but it's now time for the company to prove that it actually has a commercially viable product that is actually capable of working as required in the real world.
The question is, if the L series wasn't capable of delivering the performance as required, why keep up the pretence of it being fit for purpose, when it became clear that the company needed to draw back from it's proto commercial status and revert back to an R&D company whilst it develops the S series and the hybrid, and possibly retract the "50 qualified enquiries" statement which has become a major bone of contention.
People keep batting on about sales. This is a red herring; if the product fits the bill, then the sales will come, it's simply that we just don't know whether the thing is actually fit for purpose. As soon as we have some hard data on what the units can actually achieve (not just simple KWH capability, but data on charge degredation, service intervals, KWH costs based on current fuel stock prices, etc.) then I believe that the mental basher day trader conmen actually have a right to express their concerns over the apparent lack of movement towards commerciality.

Better a realist twat than a delusional or ramping twat. As for not having a holding, all I can say is that all you are probably holding is your tiddly weener..............

FFS lighten up you self righteous twat!

The problem with renewables is that they are not an on demand supply, and are therefore unable to deal with the peaks and troughs of demand. In an ideal world, it should be possible to harness the steady state energy derived from renewables, and convert it into a form that has the capability of delivering an on demand supply. The obvious answer is of course battery / supercapacitor, but the more left field solution is to pump it through an electrolyser, and hey ho, a totally carbon free source of potential on demand energy. The problem of course if how to convert the energy now held in the form of (pure) hydrogen gas into on demand electricity. Any ideas on how this could be achieved folks?

I see one of those pesky pipelines was involved back in 2017.....What is it about pipelines? they never fail to disappoint!

"Careful what you wish for.
We might end up with Williamson, Balchin and Marsden back at the helm. It took them 10 years to take the company nowhere"
However, what needs to be remembered is that even way back in the day there was a lot of positive talk from the company about how it's product was almost ready for shipping, just needed to get to the end of this or that trial, multiple MOU's and certain Russians getting suckered in, but it all came to naught. In the absence of any actual sales on a commercial basis, it could look like it's a little bit of history repeating itself, hence my concern.
As for the restaurant analogy, no, it's more like buying a debenture at a golf club and then finding that it could possibly be being mis managed, you are locked in, and cannot simply vote with your feet unless at great cost.....All I'm asking for is clarity on what product is actually a commercially viable product, ready for sale in whatever time frame, and what is a development concept that MAY be market ready at whatever plus X time frame, for the sale of transparency.

Aimmillionaire ( hahahahaha!)
So what you’re saying is that everything done up to last year was a complete write off, and we start again from year zero. Ok, get that if there’s actually some clearly defined critical success factors and performance benchmarks again which progress can be gauged, but the problem I have is that the company never gets to a point where it can actually say “here’s a product we’ve been working on, it’s ready for market and we’re looking for sales” it’s always “here’s something we’re working on, and company x/y/z is interested and the future is bright” we then have performance issues, another round of development, and the road to commerciality gets longer….we then get fed stuff about new avenues of opportunity (marine, ev charging, and now construction industry power) which all detract from the main thrust which must surely be to get a workable product to market.
The turbo tower of power is another example of finding a solution for a problem that doesn’t commercially exist (admittedly there may be a PR driven market) but the economics simply don’t stack up with a 10KW unit when you compare the amortised capital cost and running cost of a traditional IC powered unit. All this talk about making it smaller, more powerful over time is fine, but I suspect that until this happens, and with a reasonable purchase price, the market is limited.
I do admit I believe that AB is in a difficult place because he’s having to keep the company profile up without actually having anything marketable on the shelves at present.
I fully accept that we probably are 2 years plus away from any meaningful sales activity, all I’m saying is concentrate on making a saleable product, and stop all of the diversionary BS. We all know that a reliable alkaline fuel cell that doesn’t suffer charge degradation over time is a holy grail, and once proven, worth diamonds, but we need to get that point.
I am, believe it or not, a long term holder and an in it for the long haul, but I do get frustrated at the lack of a cohesive product development plan, as the current approach has all the hallmarks of a board with collective ADHD

Jimmynan
Come back to me when this underpowered show pony actually gets to market and units are actually sold (rather than a single unit pushed out on some development lease, whether or not at a profit we don’t know) and I’ll happily say that I’ve got it wrong, but I’m afraid if you look at the company’s product offerings to date, not one has actually achieved a non incentivised sale, and I’m talking about way back to the heady days of waste hydrogen from the clor alkali business.
I suggest that, until such time as I’m proven wrong by these awesome towers of power flying off the shelves, you resist the temptation to resort to insults…….as at the moment, you are no more right or wrong than me, or anyone else expressing an opinion (ok, leave Ade aside) so for the sake of appearing to be a delusional onanistic twerp, desist the insults

So we are looking at a box the size of a telephone box that can power three decent electric kettles.

For a sneak peek at AB's AGM speech, copy the link below

https://youtu.be/8l3g9wtmrJk

# complete muppet

This is the biggest piece of drivel posted in a long, long time. So the 344,754 MWH, is more likely down to power generation as they may be using other stuff to power the really thirsty heavy plant….really, what planet are you on, heavy plant runs on red diesel, and it accounts for about 95% of red diesel usage on average.
This piece of completely baseless hypothesis is a complete joke and should be ignored, or alternatively highlighted as a prime example of the spin and untruths put out by the ramping fraudsters