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It is to be expected that any funds, including those in AHL, will fluctuate. Although it is now a much less significant factor in Man funds AHL has risen from 1.05, therefore, over AHL funds their is a profit YTD. As is the case for GLG funds which have recovered dramatically this year. North american funds are still in their early days and costs have to be recovered. IMO it is a very risky move to short this when AHL is still be a whopping 1.45 and when the business is being handled as well as it is.

Thanks wolfwatch. Glad you made it through. I first bought when EMG was in the FTSE 100.so looking forward to it returning there. May take another t/o but they still have some cash to do it. Best pf luck.

From 2011 please read ---- http://citywire.co.uk/money/ftse-sinks-below-5000-as-greek-haircut-revisited/a529502. EMG continued to tank down to the 60's, before recovering to 136p in 2013 only to tank again to the 70's due to a Japanese financial problem. The dividend was severely cut again and the then new CEO proceeded to diversify the funds. EMG's share price then progressed away from the shorters to what it has been recently, (with the help of a few takeovers). Looks like the market believes EMG is still very susceptible to the Greek debt saga, lets hope it gets sorted.

http://www.edie.net/news/6/Renewables-electricity-surge-sparks-support-for-onshore-wind/ Makes sense to harness the Jet Stream. Surely a sensible government will see this.

MSF shorting on the back of Terra Firma selling. Wouldn't have much faith in either of them as it looks like TF shares are being snapped? But who by?

Having been a particularly windy year up in the North of the UK, does this mean that Infinis's electricity income will be up again. Jet Stream seems to be affecting us more and more, (by global warming, Arctic nuclear activity or whatever). Therefore, Windpower is an ideal way of harnessing the Jet Stream affect. (Akin to more equatorial countries harnessing Solar Power). SNP seems to understand this, I'm sure the UK government will too. Seems a good time to get into this share.

Results show him to be spot on. In view of their continued improvement in other sales areas, it is certainly a 100% potential now, especially on the price I got in at this morning, and when Tesco's have stopped panicking, (and recover from their alleged fiddling).

as well as being investable, must be something in the air.

Especially the bit in Rongone's link, in which the author make the quote.'' I also think this factor makes Thorntons investable at the present time''.

The reason I posted, was after seeing RIO SP drop more than the value of todays dividend, (from 3140p Mar 3 to 2960p this morning), despite the active 'sharebuyback' and it being a pre-xD trading day. Also after seeing reference to the trading in the linked report, (http://www.lulegacy.com/2015/03/04/investors-purchase-large-volume-of-put-options-on-rio-tinto-plc-rio/). I was curious as to why Rio price dropped on two days just before a significant xD. Unless, of course, there were actually two dividends that required two ex-divi dates and the first one was March 4th. Which is the reason I looked through this Rio site to see if anyone had the answer, do you?

waited to buy on the ex-dvi date. The mm's are certainly ramming it that it is fallacy to hang on to shares for the dividend. Complicated in this share by the proponents of having two ex-divi dates, March 4th & March 5th).

the law does apply to the city as said in their rules, it just is not applied as it should be, yet.

especially, 'As for shorting, in most places if you sell something that doesn't belong to you you get locked up! Another device for false profit'. As far as I am aware, if someone lends out their car or 'tools' or money for another to commit a crime they can also be done. Therefore, those lending out shares for others to use for blatant shorting should also be held accountable. As the way I read the rules, conspiracy to short is definitely against the rules of the stock market, (and therefore would be breaking the law of England and Wales).

Actual Pensions are usually handled by other entities, Pension accrual is what the report refers to. Unfortunately, as is the norm for all firms in recent years. That was lucky for Thorntons as they have closed theirs, so no further accrual except for those lucky enough to have had it in their contract. However much the shorters try to manipulate the results to their advantage, at this stage the loss can be seen as clearly a blip due to the logistic problems at two of their important outlets and their own wharehousing problem. Clearly the market consider that the two supermarkets will easily recover as their share prices have regained 50% or so. Furthermore, it can be taken that, as Thorntons had a good Xmas, their own wharehousing problem must be able to be overcome. Up to the above problems, Thorntons made excellent profit in that previous twelve months. And as said Thorntons enjoyed good Xmas. Therefore, it is logical to consider that Thorntons can look forward to similar sales for Mothers Day to some effect and more especially Easter period coming up. Why cant those blatant shorters find something useful to do instead of always pulling down.

they carries out due diligence they could easily have come across the facts. as such:-- Feb 27, 2015 71.00 Volume 439,293 Mar 2, 2015 69.00 Volume 151,414 Also, probably more importantly, since the 'past' event they are using are using to try to incite shorting of THT, both the outlets referred to have now recovered 42% & 52%. just two months after their results.

gets it wrong again. Friday's close 71p to sell yesterday close 69p to sell. 2.8% difference not 8,2% they hoped for. No brainer to know that Thorntons main period of this financial year is coming up from now. Judging by Xmas sales it is looking good.

and it was a good and relative point made by Rongone. I note that :- quote 'The main driver of the increase in this long-term liability was the decrease in the discount rate used to express these future liabilities to a present value'. unquote. I also see from delving into the past that THT cut out its dividend (of app 6%) in 2011. Therefore, with the 'unfortunate' pending closure savings the combined effect could be a claw back of the deficit along with the other fact from, quote :-'The scheme remains closed to new members and to future accrual'. (I say unfortunate hoping that the jobs lost from closures can be transferred to more buoyant locations).

Chocolate maker Thorntons' profit falls 10 pct March 2 (Reuters) - British chocolate maker Thorntons Plc said its profit fell 10 percent in the first half due to an unexpected cut in orders [1 Hour Ago] . . . . . . . However, Lets not forget that figure is in comparison with from last year's Record figures, quote UPDATE 2-Cost cuts sweeten full-year for chocolatier Thorntons * Full-year profit rises 60 pct to 7.5 mln stg* Full-year revenue rises by 0.6 pct to 222.4 mln stg* [10 Sep '14]. Therefore, in reality, comparing to figures of years previous to that record year, IMO, the figures are nowhere as bad as made out by the would be shorting supporters. ''Feet on the ground''.

would lead us to believe even just two days ago, as such: '''Analysts believe that the retailer’s profits could fall by as much as 20pc when it posts interim results this week.''' However, results are as the management have been telling shareholders and they are down to earth with their forward views but the hope is that they have solved their logistic problems and of course both Tescos and MS have recovered much of their share loss. So surely THT will recover, at least to what it was before the Telegraph's latest reporting of maligned figures. Therefore, as Shan says, it could be a good recovery play for the immediate future. Especially as to me it appears to be a well meaning and well organised management. Just my thoughts based on observations and similar experiences at EMG.

to me, I would think that Thorntons, at anything below 80p, for the big hitters, is a useful defensive stock while Europe tries to sort out its problems with Greece. I realise, that 80p is not a solution for longer term holders and, IMO, would only be small temporary improvement unless Thorntons is seen to be fixing their logistic troubles.