Over the last trading 10 days, since 06 Dec, Rhodium has fallen $1,000 from $13,300 to $12,300. I suspect this could be a significant contributor to the weakness of the JLP share price over the similar period.
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Prof
If people behave the same way as me they scroll through all the content since they last came on the page and stop on the quality content like your post. So I don't think it gets overlooked.
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Prof
Fukurokuju,
Thanks very much for putting that effort in. I confess that as a non-accountant I am struggling a bit so would be grateful for the input of any accountants that we do have.
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Prof
Fukurokuju,
Thanks for the workings. A couple of points:
-C3 may have been 30.818million in 2021 and while a large part of that will be fixed costs there will also be a variable cost to production. Any estimate on that?
-You are using $1M a month for the debt of $20M. Presumably that includes capital repayment. At 10% were capital repayments to be further deferred then interest on debt would be c$2M which should be well manageable at 8,000 tons per annum provided there is a decent gap between AISC and copper price.
Thoughts,
Prof
Great conversation thread here. Thank you to all those contributing to it.
I just wanted to draw your attention to a few lines on the Innovations News Network Report on the RMM Website:
'Rambler is on track with its 2022 production target of 7,000 tonnes of payable copper. This represents a 100% uplift on 2021 and, given the performance to June 2022, the second half of 2022 will be a 100% uplift on the first.'
Not withstanding the reduced copper price if H2 is double the H1 production then AISC should fall significantly and cash flow improve.
Looking at the price action in the first 15mns I think the market makers are struggling as much as the rest of us to know how to price this and so are probing to see. They marked this down 10% at opening but are gradually pulling it back up. Let us hope that trend continues.
For those who are desperately looking for positive elements this morning - commodities are looking strong.
I appreciate that RMM previously had poor financial IT systems and now have better ones in place. I struggle, however, to believe that they would not have had a reasonable ball park grasp of their financials - you could do that with a sheet of paper as many on here are doing.
As such are we sure that there has been a sudden 'reveal' that their financials are awful that has led to this or could it be they have been clumsy with the RNS with the main message being: 1. need more funds for the ore sorter, 2. want to restructure the loan over a long term to give more financial headroom now copper price is lower, 3. oh and by the way here are a few other things we want to tidy up.
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Prof
Hi Johnny,
I think Broker's understanding and mine are in step and what you are seeing is just private investors aggregated up.
There might be a few wrappers in the list you kindly shared however.
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Prof
Thanks Johnny,
But aren't many of these, for example HL, just the nominated holder for whole number of small private investors?
If I look at the company fact sheet on the Rambler site is shows the two biggest holders as being:
E Mining III 27,107,090 17.03%
Aether 5,258,375 3.30%
What do you reckon?
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Prof
Hi Johnny,
Who are you referring to on the institutional shareholder list please?
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Prof
Fukurokju,
Thanks for the response.
I am certainly of the view that they should not raise equity at this SP without the existing share holders getting first dibs - hence my preference for a rights issue.
Current market cap is c £18M. Assuming that they did a 1 for 1 at this SP (ish) then I would like to believe that would give them enough to pay off outstanding creditors, make the necessary capital investment, such as the ore sorter, to reduce the cost of production and perhaps even pay down some of the LT debt/ restructure it. If all that were done then arguably we would be in a far better position than investors thought before the RNS.
I would happily invest the same amount again under those conditions. Would you? Would others?
Best wishes,
Prof
Fukurouju,
I was just about to try and write a similar summary to the one you have just done but you have both beaten me to it and done it far more succinctly and eloquently than I could have - thank you.
They have, for whatever reason, issued this RNS but not provided enough detail for anyone to understand the scale of the issue and funding requirement. I note the following:
'Operational results have been released monthly up until the end of June 2022 and will be discussed in greater detail in the Company’s interim financial report which will be released before the end of September.'
I would doubt the interim financial report will answer all our questions but I would hope it will shine a light on some key bits of financial info such as AISC and therefore the required copper price to breakeven operationally.
What are your thoughts on a 1 for 1 rights issue as a route out?
Best wishes,
Prof
Morning Sotolo,
Sorry to hear that. I guessed you had taken pain on CEY, like so many of us, but hoped you might have somehow off-set it with gains elsewhere. Good to hear you have the beautiful woods, lovely surrounding areas and the kind neighbours, even if the flat is that small.
Everything is feeling strange at the moment, I agree gold does not seem to be performing as you would expect given the current global situation but then again the stock markets on the whole don't. I can't believe the DOW is within 10% of its high, which was 'high', with everything going on. My personal expectation is that we will see a fall back in stock markets this autumn as the true economic pain becomes clear to all - but then again, when have I ever got my predictions right.
Hope you can keep your chin up and smiling by taking pleasure in the good things you dohave.
Very best wishes,
Prof
Hi Sotolo,
Great to hear from you too. How is the house plan going?
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Prof
Hi Tibbs,
I may not view it as strongly as 3bear but I am certainly not entirely convinced by Maguire.
The aim of communications is to communicate. If what he says cannot be understood by the reasonably intelligent layperson, who it seems is his audience, then it is arguably not effective.
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Prof
3Bear,
Thanks for getting back to me. If the discussion was just before the hour mark then I got diverted onto a phone call so obviously missed it. Will listen to the recording.
Even with a 6 month delay that would still be great news.
Thanks again,
Prof
Link to presentation that I just mentioned:
https://www.centamin.com/media/2853/cey-1h22-results_presentation_20220804_final.pdf
Morning 3Bear,
Thanks for confirming that is also how you saw it. Yes I agree that there was a real feel of 'progress on all fronts'.
I was particularly excited by slide 6 of the presentation which, if I read it correctly seemed to show a return to c500k oz per year as early as FY 2024 through Sukari, a rise to c700k oz by 2025, through Doropo and a peaking at 750k oz by 2028. The notes on that slide seem to suggest that the Sukari uplift is from underground improvement of both mining rates (1.5Mtpa to 1.875) and a 15% in reserve grade to 4.1 g/t.
Again I would be grateful to know if others understood this in the same way because if I am right in what this says then I would have expected more to have been made of it in the presentation by CEY as well as more focus to have been on it in the analysts' questions. Clearly if the intent is to get Doropo producing within 3 years then you can see why there is a need for major investment and why therefore MH is talking about CEY's capital structures.
Best wishes,
Prof