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Whilst not wanting to undermine the good research done here often New SPV’s (Special Purpose Vehicles) are set up to fund transactions such as this for reasons of complicated Tax or Regulatory benefits. However, it could be also to hide who has the ultimate real interest in the deal be it RA, Denora etc etc
I agree though we should be probing to BOD at the AGM as to who’s behind this!!
BumbleB no it isn’t the usual full report.
As I hold share out of a nominee name as well I get all accounts posted direct. This I feel is just a version to satisfy regulatory reporting requirements!! It is the same as the RNS having Accounts & Chairman/CEO comments etc except it also has the auditors certification!!
Will we see the glossy accounts with previous leaked pages ... who knows!!
What I did scoff at was the chairman’s statement of how they communicate well with investors and use of the web site to inform investors of latest news etc ... my arse!! Unless you are a HNWI or Corporate Investor!!
BumbleB you asked in an earlier post about the future of Stade. Well reading the AUDITED accounts briefly yesterday I did not approx a £370k provision for the winding down of Stade... that doesn’t mean it’s going to happen but obviously if there’s doubts then prudence rules!!!
Cheekboy
To be honest it does sound good, however, if you are old enough to remember the show ... I used to have more success in deciphering the stupid absurd clues given in the old game show 3-2-1 with Ted Rogers and dusty bin that made no sense than deciphering the messages given by this BOD!!! Lol
Death Spiral finance???
If I’m reading this correct then I think Thalion are going to see a 20% return on this investment providing AFC redeem notes prior to maturity:
A: 5% by way of arrangement fee - settled in shs upfront now
B: 10% discount at outset of drawdown
C: 5% premium to redeem notes prior to maturity!!
Is that how others see it??
I think they will need to walk me out of there in a straight jacket!!
Imcompetant gretins is all I can muster or think about at the moment!!
In any other FTSE company the Chairman and CEO would have been sacked along time ago for incompetence and would never be allowed not to communicate with it’s investors!!
My god I can’t comceive what BS they are going to come up with this year to defend their actions!!
Mucksy
People (including me) are rightfully negative because we have had years of false dawns and promises. NO MAJOR deadline/milestone has ever been fully & 100% completely ever been completed!
EXAMPLES:
STADE = NO
PLACE = NO
Etc etc etc
So why should things change now???
I just can’t get excited anymore and frankly hacked off with all the mis-informed poorly worded communication from the Co
Well it’s good to see that the BOD don’t even keep to their own policy!!
Didn’t JR say that there were no future RNS’ unless it was Price Sensitive information and none for MOU’s etc etc
Well tell me if I’m wrong without a formal signed contract with APL isn’t this just the same thing but on the opposite side of the table??? Oh and it had a major affect on the SP & Trading vols since yesterday!!!
Just waiting for the AGM... if anyone from the Company is reading this then please allocate a lengthy Q&A session... I think there will be plenty of feedback!!!
I don’t like talking politics on this board but since AFC can’t communicate we might as well!!
I voted leave as I remember back in the 70’s when we had the referendum to join the EEC! We only entered on the basis on joining a trading block. Political and Economic, Legal and now Military Union was never on the cards but through a number of Treaty’s we as the public were “conned” into the E.U. we have now by Politicians on their own agenda!! Only Monetary Union was ever really challenged because of physically having to lose the £.
I voted Leave not for any other reason that I believe that the E.U. is a FAILING economic project (Greece, Spain, Italy etc etc) which will collapse expedited by our leaving as a net contributor. I would rather be out under our control than being a member of a failed continent. Collapse will be hard for us on the outside let alone being a member of it would be devastating for us all!!!
These were announced a year ago today for 2017... so anytime now!! Announcement of AGM which is going to be pivotal in my eyes or a Bloodbath!!!
Come on AFC /BOD start opening the lines of communication or otherwise what the f**k has been going on!!!
Unless we hear something positive you’d better book a full day in the conference room at Stamford Bridge as you are going to have loads of questions coming your way!!
In my current doom and gloom state of mind... Surely if any delays are the result of BREXIT then I’m sure that would have been eagerly communicated as to the reason... since every other scare or issue is blamed on BREXIT I can’t see why AFC haven’t used it too!!!
Guys
Im with you all on the negativity and just as p****d off as the next person.
I believe more than any other year that this years AGM will be the most critical than ever before unless a big white rabbit is pulled out of the bag beforehand!!
I have attended the past 4-5 years AGMs and to be honest I’m disappointed that so few on here actually attend.
It’s no use belting on about how bad the the BOD, AB, JR and so on (which incidentally I don’t disagree!!)... but ATTEND THE AGM AND ASK THE QUESTIONS AND AIM TO GET THE ANSWERS YOU WANT.... Don’t just sit on the BB and moan... if you really want to protect your investment it is down to you to be there!!! We need numbers and those present to be vocal about the issues.
I guess I wil still see the same faces again this year battling away!!
That is the trouble with AFC silures... How many times have we had people think we have a 2 plus 2 situation and instead of it being 5 it comes out at a BIG FAT 0!!! That is more the result of AFC sums!!! Nothing gets finally delivered!!
Silures
Nothing really scientific but I didn’t think my post 6 hours before the RNS would hit the nail so squarely on the head as it did today/yesterday now!!
I don’t want to mention why on here in public but I have no knowledge but just something I have observed for a while now!!