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Are you serious? 1st of all im not making any cap gains on vod shares, & 2nd to sell & buy back ,unless in an isa to avoid the divi is crazy, The tax to buy shares is far more than the divi tax. I will however be forced to sell & buy back some shares in an isa. My main point, is that I bought shares in vod based on the then currant tax laws, & now im being screwed!! By the way Gerry im not rich, just trying to invest the best way I can!!

Sorry to drift off vod, but as a biggish vod shareholder im outraged by the new divi tax, aim'd against small company's saving income tax, So everybody else has to pay????? I invest in vod, so why should I have to pay for people who own a company &dont wont to pay income tax ?????!!! NONSENSE.

Another nail in the coffin for non isa shareholders. 3 years ago it wasnt worth paying to put shares in an isi, now thats changed. I would be better off if vod paid no divi, because as said many times, the divi comes out of the sp. ok so i can put them in an isa, but that costs, & only 20k per year per person. I think high divis only suits company directors that pay less tax on divis than salary, or cap gains tax. If vod pays a 10p divi, over 2k you receive 9.25p, but the sp will fall by 10p If you own 100k shares over the 2k allowance , you are losing £750 a year. If the divi was 20p you lose twice as much. At the end of the day the budget change is daylight robbery for private investors!

Broker rating from buy to "conviction buy". Never heard that one before! But it sounds good! Char. at least vod shares are doing better than aston villa shares did, they were a conviction sell. I bought them when they floated, & they dived!! More fool me! vod sp ticking up today.

Is this the calm before the storm??!! If so, I just hope the storm is upwards. Hopefully monday will bring good news???

Gerry, As the non deal in new zealand hasnt had much impact on the vod share price, is this just a side show? & the real deal is in india?

sgee Only 12 posts?? I'm not sure your allowed an opinion!! I bet though, your 12 posts make more sense than 2,944 from the flying picket !!!???

What has flipping burgers got to do with vod shares, where did all you morons suddenly come from, go away please.

Oopps, just when the chat was getting freindly!! Sorry if I upset the apple cart with my comments, but surely you dont have to own shares in vod to look at the the vod share chat. If you are thinking about buying vod shares,it makes sense to see what the vod share chat says, so of course its frustrating to read about totally unrelated shares. By the way there is, a general, chat line,& a glencore chat line!! There's nothing wrong with drifting off the main subject occasionly, but!!!??? Give us a break!!

Why has the vod share chat been hyjacked by other share chats?? If you want to talk about glenfever, why dont you go on to there chats???

Is this the vodafone share chat?? or am I on the wrong share chat???!!! I think you should be on the nims/picket chat !!!

Your comments are always welcome critique or otherwise!. Perhaps im just annoyed with myself for selling verizon & buying more vod with the proceeds, although i did hold verizon for a while & made a reasonable profit. Of course there maybe some truth in what toff says, as although I have some vod shares which im making a profit on,there are some Im losing on & my opinion may be wishfull thinking? I did top up on 3rd feb at 1.93, & may buy more, but when I say my opinion is buy, Im only going to buy if ive got enough money to do so. I still feel strongly that vod shares are underpriced, but who knows??

Be careful what you say, you might get accused of ramping, or forcing your opinion on others!!

Sorry Gerry, but how can you post on a share chat line , if you have no opinion??(Im not going to hold you to it). When I post strong buy,, Its my opinion & Im not trying to decide if the rest of the world should buy or sell !!!!!! Just me!

Its those wicked smarties, (sorry I mean m m 's) again, manipulating the price!!!!! Ther'e not having my shares at a penny less than £2.20. They don't like it up em Mr manwaring.

Just goes to show how negative you,ve all become, after a couple of weeks of falls, when the sp finally recovers, your all in shock. As to why? perhaps there simply underpriced??

Good ?? I rate the shares at £2.20 plus. OK so I listen to broker ratings! But perhaps there right!!????

Gerry thanks for your reply. Ok for a few million, read a few 100 million! But what worries me in your reply is if a large proportion of vod share holders are buying purely for the divi then that's dangerous. I could run a company that makes no profit & pay a 20% annual divi .& of course the company would go bust in 5 years. I know you think that I should perhaps put my money in a lower divi, higher growth stock, but I beleive vod is a good company & perhaps investors just need to be educated to the fact that a reduced divi could be a good thing in the long run. To repeat my earlier point to buy a share just for its high divi, only to re invest the divi is absolute folly!!! But at the end of the day I still think vod shares are way underpriced. I know vod is sometimes reffered to as a cash cow, & perhaps thats the logic of paying a high divi, but why not just pay off dept instead?? I guess vod can borrow at very low %!!??

Gerry, thanks for your reply, what puzzles me however is if large investors are better off paying cap gains tax than divi's surely then they would want vod to pay no divi. so the sp would rise instead?? The only other problem for very large shareholders selling large amounts of shares ( a few million perhaps) would be getting a fair price for selling such a large amount. Whatever the reasons, I still feel that in theory, vod shareholders would be no worse off if the divi was cut!!?? If vod had paid no divi in the last year, surely the current sp would simply be about 11p higher, unless vod had squandered the money, & if thats the case then were all in the wrong share!!??

I get the impression that a lot of investors buy vod shares because it pays a high dividend, & then re invest the divi straight back into vod shares. much as I hope vod dont reduce the divi in future,(sends out a bad signal), logically, if vod paid a nill divi, investors who automatically re invest the divi will be no worst off. Is a high divi just a comfort blanket. As stated many times before,the divi comes out of the share price at ex divi date. Does a high divi, really only favour large investors who may be better off paying income tax on divi's than capital gains tax??