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Keltickilla. A word to the wise. My saying the £450k.. which has never been denied is under investigation... is simple fact.
Regardless of the outcome of the investigation my opinion is it sounds far from ideal. The £35000 fine to Farage and much larger fine to IDDE are on public record.
Saying it is not good for a group to take over £300k a month in salaries and exoenses from tax payers with the intention of undermining the tax payer funded organisation they joined to do that is in no way comparable to Chinese communists banning parties they don't like. Daaaaah.
Clearly the EU does a great deal of constructive work, it's idiotic to say it doesn't. EBA, EIB, Euratom, Euro fusion project, EMA, Europol, controlling refugee arrivals, environmental work, fines on corporations behaving badly are just a few examples.
ERV
The majority of my posts refer to empirical evidence. Far more so than yours.
Farage's attendance record, voting record and non-involvement in committees where he has supposedly represented the UK in, are notoriously poor, and officially recorded and on the public record. They reveal him to be one of the worst contributors.
He has been caught misusing tens of thousands of Euros of EU funds and was a key player in IDDE which misused EU funds on a larger scale still. He is under investigation at the moment due to "gifts" of £450k value he likely should have declared. He has bragged about taking millions in expenses and he has mentioned his aim of disrupting official business. You are easily impressed if you admire that as the record of a public servant with integrity.
It's very strange, mistaken really, if anyone calls it constructive to have 29 people with only one issue as their policy, stand for election to an organisation where they are wholly unable to progress that policy, but instead where they aim to take tax payers money and cause disruption.
without adding any value then that is a strage
to disrupt the work.of the irganisation they hot into... therwise have no inon being voted to
"And the economy is doing great" ? If you imagine that to be so then it is worth bearing our economy is operating as it has fir decades in the EU still.
No one sane suggests the shambles surrounding Brexit has improved matters.
Boomerbower
As I have mentioned more than once I am retired now, bar some
occasional pieces of work I choose to take on. During a long career I have worked extremely hard, paid large amounts of tax. Claimed practically nothing in benefits of any kind and I have generated benefits for and saved more than one large company from serious expense and reputational damage.
If Farage genuinely wanted to drive Brexit he should have aimed to get into UK politics. Instead he has probably more than any other MEP collected a salary and expenses for no constructive effort for the last 20 years.
Anyone finding any of this in the least bit strange?
Two resigned prime ministers, a stupid election called to damage the party which called it, 30 odd resigned ministers, ten MPs arguing they should be leader of the Tories, two main parties ripping themselves to bits over an initiative which will unquestionably make the country poorer. A party of 29 MEPs now elected to the EU who have no intention whatsoever of working constructively within it.. but happy to collect €4 million euros or more in pay and expenses from tax payers. Their one policy ... to leave the EU with no sensible explanation of what they will do after that.
Taking back control.... has never felt or looked so bungling and stupid.
...Corbyn was expelled from the labour government. He would be acceptable as an ineffective off beat back bench winger so far as I'm concerned. It's his forte. A very stupid man or an agent of people hostile to the well being of the uk. One of the two. All simply opinion that.
Calisto
I can't speak for any other posters past or present here, but by all means feel free to identify anything factual I post here which isn't provable without reference to the guardian or indeed any other single paper or media source.. If it helps... it will save time to bear in mind I practically never do that.. aside from the odd typo. As for demonmedic.. I have no inkling who that is.
As already pointed out this "information" being sent round is a list of nonsense of the highest order. What induces people to cut and paste and pass on rubbish like this probably started off by people hostile to the UK..... especially when it's only just been pointed out as fake.
A few examples to illustrate were already given by an earlier poster....a couple more are below.
"Bombardier in Derby due to their loses will see the end of railway manufacturing. Blah blah...."
In fact - Bombardier presently employs 2000 staff at Derby and has work until 2020 on behalf of three or four rail operators' initiatives. They expect to get more work and have more bids in progress.
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JDS Uniphase run by two Dutchmen who bought up companies in the UK with 20 million pounds by EU 'regeneration grants' created a pollution nightmare blah blah blah"
In fact .. JDS Uniphase was an American tech stock that boomed making electronic and optical hi tech equipment. Laser/communication etc. It split into two companies in the end. Neither resembling these fake facts.
Anti British propaganda.
Bruce.. you are right of course. The EU can't change the deal because it covers only a small number of things largely set down already in law and rules. May knew this from experience of negotiating the deal. Her colleagues and opponents .. a dozen tories ??? like to think they will get a better deal, them and corbyn. Dunno if they are stupid or liars. Probably both in many cases.