RE: Decided to9 May 2026 11:14
Morning all, hello Paul, and hope this gives Strike some pointers to do their own due diligence (more so than the analysts views on TW & PSN?)..
Paul, I was looking at a more immediate timescale, although, as for me, and I presume others?, the sector looked like it was improving, for some more than others, since last August. Interest rates were looking like falling further still, units were up and margins (for a few) were improving. All was beginning to look a little more rosey, until Feb 28. How different things are looking now. When looking at the prices on Investing.com on 31/8 and the highs for the sector (between Feb 4 and Feb 18 this year) since that date, which I did long hand (AI cannot grasp this can it!). I've got, name (gain from 31/8: date in Feb of those highs) and falls since those dates,to the close Thursday.
BTRW (10.5%:4) 35%
TW (18.1%:12) 29.5%
BKG (20.4%:12) 24.4%
BWY (23.1%:13) 31%
PSN (41%:18) 29.1%.
Hopefully, this shows PSN, and to a lesser extent BWY, were well on their way, and ahead of the other three, particularly BTRW and TW in their recoveries before the outlook change since the end of August last year.
I've already posted my thoughts, but, to reiterate, I'm still seeing BTRW's margins struggling, along with Wimps (I cannot see £400m coming after reading their update and listening to their Q&A. ASP down between 1 & 1.5%, incentives over 6% and their reliance on their southern division for revenue, where house prices and land values are struggling most. 6%+ incentives on the prices of those homes down there is some serious dough). If these average sales prices remain below last year and incentives remain this high, I can personally see another adjustment to TW's return to shareholders policy. For myself, it's PSN for their better protected and superior margins (except BKG, but that's now another story since their surprise update, shift in policy and their footprint/model) ASP, geographical footprint to where the money in the sector is to be made (NE & Scotland) this year, along with their vertical build business, that'll help keep that adjusted operating profit margin elevated. And BWY for their (hopefully) next best margins in the sector, great value (tnav) and like Persimmon, their geographical footprint, that'll recover those recent 30 odd percent falls soonest. I personally see the geographical areas these two are concentrated, will have a much more positive effect on margins than the others mentioned here. All this is only my own personal thoughts, and appreciate others will see things in a completely different light. I'd be interested to hear if others are seeing similar recovery trends, or if you're looking at different metrics entirely for your returns?