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Where's the placing.....its taking time to get any sizeable amount away this time and with big salaries to fed, they need a chunk or the games up!!!!! Somethings got to give.....fear the worst:)

The count of montecristo as far as shareholders are concerned!

Bring back a bit of trust with jack...you must be joking! He's done nothing that i can see of and has not even bought a single share...probably waiting for the options like the rest of the chancers! The market looks on with baited breath but i think they are all looking at each other for some inspiration.

Lejjb....just google 'shareholders who won their case at the european court of human rights' Theres loads of them done it...some win, some lose. I think it would be a win here!

Good point lejjb. Just on thinking about that....if the company were too sue based on loss to the company that could not include direct loss to shareholders. I reckon you could get a case there with the court of human rights....i remember reading something about the shareholders of a bank doing it. Ast shareholders could make a killing of this one but you would need a heavyweight championing the cause!

In fact...maybe shareholders could take them to the eu court of human rights...go for a double:)

Sorry..court of justice should say.

I doubt it reed....their part of the eu. They would not get away with doing nothing. Which is a good point actually. Ast could take them to the eu court of rights?

Thanks for replying lejjb. I would love to know how litigation funders would view this. I expect that a court would want then to deposit a pretty hefty sum up front in the event of legal costs for loss and then fighting the case also...i really think you would have to go after them for a lot more...maybe a 100m, so if that were the case, it would be interesting to see how they would build that up. Possibly not a landmark case but it would be a sight to behold im sure:)

Probably been discussed to death so apologies in advance. If ast managed to get 3rd party funding to sue the slovenian government....how much would they sue for...any views? You cant sue for loss of market cap which has maybe lost 40m or so and the funder would want a good earner for taking the risk. So basically your suing for potential loss of revenue/earnings and time constraint? My guess is that a funder would want minimum 5m for the time and risk, so you would have to be suing for at least 20-30m?

Now that is interesting....im going to have a look into that avinew. Dont discount how well they might perform in the future and they will probably be snapped up at some point. Whilst the insurance angle is interesting now with discounts coming, would love to see how it plays out when we do get to level 5 with quantity but i suspect i will be long in a grave by then!

I had that happen to me about 3 years ago. It was the passenger side that went off after driving into a big pothole in the road and fortunately, i was alone in the car. It was like a bomb going off but luckly, none of the fragments hit me. However, the inside of the car looked liked it had been vandalised. Company car honda accord...i told the 3rd party supplier to stick it where the sun dont shine:)

So sharesport....are you trying to say that is not a real possibility? Im fed up of rampers who continually support bod's despite terrible performance just because they have a holding.... It's not me or anyone else on this board that has put the company in this position, as i have said previously...its not by chance that the comms from the company are terrible, on the contary its very much well planned to keep you here and average down like the good boy they want you to be!

Without any other deals....should have said

Well it caused a spike to 11p. Due to the uncertainties around it...you could say that its been part of the reason that the sp recently hit an all time low. And currently, although the sp has recovered a little, you would have to say that the contract is not progressing as was initially agreed and thereby theres a real chance it wont go ahead....that will cause real problems in trying to raise cash and with any other deals on the table...will put the company at serious risk of going into admin. Maybe they have tried to raise and no-one wants to know until something tangible is delivered...including Mr A's fund. They were not shy in demanding a huge discount for the 10p, if they were to deal again....what do you think they would want this time if the sp goes below 2p.....that would be a disaster don't you think?

From the off....hands up, i put money in here after bad research on my part, although i have been following the board for 10 years or so i should have known better but the lure of what i thought was a low sp suckered me in....so my disappointment is very much of my own making. Now that i know better, i just dont like the business model and the way afc work....i just cant see them getting much over the line like that. Before i get anihailated...my research is still raw/limited compared to some and i do think there might be a chance that de nora will lend a big helping hand so all is not lost. However, the southern deal has been a disaster for shareholders and has left the company in a very difficult position re the need for funds. After causing an initial spike (trapping a lot more in), we now find ourselves with a crushed sp that is not that far from all time lows and a cancellation of that contract will take it there in no time and i would be worried about the fall-out from that! Beggars can't be chooser's i know but it seems to me like the kind of deal we have with Southern is loaded with risk on the afc side...sure, afc might get paid for the engineering work but thats not going to keep the lights on and given the fact that no other work has been secured... I just don't know where they can go from here...the hydrogen charging sounds good but its pie in the sky if none of the big boys like it!

Maybe you should be asking why the bod are so cold on you....i mean, they are hardly 'smoking' are they:)

Yes lewbo and its a fair bit of time since one of them has come round. Maybe if the free options had a price tag on them (far less performance), the sp would not have fallen 70%....anyway, heres to the next big rail win!

Stan.... You well know that its not statutory and im sure that you also know that the market looks very favourably when a new chairman or for that matter, any member of the bod buys shares with their own cash. Everybody keep bumping on (on all/other share chats) about how good it is to have the bod aligned with shareholders....and that is usually with them taking up their options at discount or free shares which see have done. It would be nice to see one put their hand in their pocket and buy with cold hard cash...thats real alignment for me!

They would have to declare if it was the wife but not sure about the kids. But for whatever reason would they try to hide it anyway....no, i dont believe they have and its not very inspiring!