RE: Shenandoah Update?24 Jul 2025 00:13
@donalb yes, read quite a bit myself. One of the most singular, odd pieces of history out there. The treasure, in fact mostly silver across the years, travelled up the Pacific coast of Latin America, across Panama to then stop off in Cartagena before travelling on to Spain. Goods from the Phillipines actually traversed the Pacific before crossing Panama and stopping in Cartagena in the same way in journey that took two years. Madness!
As for the ships of the line, well, ships of the line they may have been (meaning they could line up end to end to deliver a broadside) but most of the tine theyvweren't naval. The Spanish galleons were raided primarily.by privateers, or out and out pirates. The difference being that privateers were acknowledged to be state backed (British and/or Dutch (the deal was the same) whereas pirates were more informally accommodated (at British/ Dutch ports in the Caribbean or mainland ports) and sponsored.
Your Columbian friend is of course hugely correct. The whole Spanish treasure extraction exercise was dry as dust in creative terms. It was not agriculturally led and nothing happened to compare to British innovations that added value such as introducing tea production to India (from China) and making it happen at scale, expanding Indian silk (also to cut out China), or introducing rubber to Malaysia (from Brazil).
Some peeps might be ideological and not want to know, but I'd say your Columbian friend's insight is on the button.