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CF the reality is we do not know what the Aim government is willing or able to put in.
We also do not know what will happen with the ownership issues.
We don't know what is happening re lack of funds.
We do know GR has universally failed to provide any shareholder value, production, results and can't even file the sodding financials on time. YET you still got his back brother.
Or maybe son....

Correct 13th and the grid infrastructure in general is not capable on carrying the sort of peak load that an electric car nation would need.
The gov also need to start giving vat and tax breaks to private householders to upgrade to solar/powerwall/thermal home systems which would make a huge difference. As well as insisting housebuilders fit all properties with a minimum solar PV KW. But thats another argument.

Oh and sea dangler your a long term ITM shareholder so probably wouldn't want AFC stealing their thunder eh...

That post made me laugh Moljen if nothing else.

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Liquid Transport

As an alternative, hydrogen can be transported in liquid form in lorries or other means of transport. In comparison to pressure gas vessels, more hydrogen can be carried with an LH 2 trailer, as the density of liquid hydrogen is higher than that of gaseous hydrogen. Since the density even of liquid hydrogen is well below that of liquid fuels, at approx. 800 kg/m 3 , in this case too only relatively moderate masses of hydrogen are transported. At a density of 70.8 kg/m3 , around 3,500 kg of liquid hydrogen or almost 40,000 Nm 3 can be carried at a loading volume of 50 m3. Over longer distances it is usually more cost-effective to transport hydrogen in liquid form, since a liquid hydrogen tank can hold substantially more hydrogen than a pressurized gas tank. For the purposes of liquid transport the hydrogen is loaded into insulated cryogenic tanks. LH 2 trailers have a range of approximately 4,000 km. Over the journey time the cryogenic hydrogen heats up, causing the pressure in the container to rise.

Similarly, to lorry transport, LH 2 can also be transported by ship or by rail, provided that suitable waterways, railway lines and loading terminals are available.

Seadangler, fuel cell cars aren't economic yet. How long, who knows and maintenance reliability etc etc. Thats why the hybrid/full electric is the most prevelent.
Fuel stations in the uk are starting to have H2 installed as well as H2 tanker burns less fuel than a 40TonnerGaseous hydrogen can be transported in small to medium quantities in compressed gas containers by lorry. For transporting larger volumes, several pressurized gas cylinders or tubes are bundled together on so-called CGH 2 tube trailers. The large tubes are bundled together inside a protective frame.
The tubes are usually made of steel and have a high net weight. This can lead to mass-related transport restrictions. The newest pressurized storage systems use lighter composite storage containers for lorry transport.
The low density of hydrogen also has an impact on its transport: under standard conditions (1.013 bar and 0°C), hydrogen has a density of 0.0899 kg per cubic meter (m3), also called normal cubic meter (Nm3 ). If hydrogen is compressed to 200 bar, the density under standard conditions increases to 15.6 kg hydrogen per cubic meter, and at 500 bar it would reach 33 kg H 2 /m3.
A tube trailer cannot store compressed gas as compactly as a tanker for liquid fuels (petrol or diesel fuel). This means that the available tank volume for hydrogen per tanker is lower. Single tube trailers carry approximately 500 kg of hydrogen, depending on the pressure and container material.
The largest tank volumes for gaseous hydrogen transport are currently 26 cubic meters. Taking account of the low hydrogen density factor at 500 bar, this results in a load of around 1,100 kg hydrogen per lorry. This figure extrapolates to approximately 12,000 normal cubic meters of hydrogen. At 250 bar both the weight of hydrogen and its transport volume in Nm 3 would be roughly halved.Liquid Transport

As an alternative, hydrogen can be transported in liquid form in lorries or other means of transport. In comparison to pressure gas vessels, more hydrogen can be carried with an LH 2 trailer, as the density of liquid hydrogen is higher than that of gaseous hydrogen. Since the density even of liquid hydrogen is well below that of liquid fuels, at approx. 800 kg/m 3 , in this case too only relatively moderate masses of hydrogen are transported. At a density of 70.8 kg/m3 , around 3,500 kg of liquid hydrogen or almost 40,000 Nm 3 can be carried at a loading volume of 50 m3. Over longer distances it is usually more cost-effective to transport hydrogen in liquid form, since a liquid hydrogen tank can hold substantially more hydrogen than a pressurized gas tank. For the purposes of liquid transport the hydrogen is loaded into insulated cryogenic tanks. LH 2 trailers have a range of approximately 4,000 km. Over the journey time the cryogenic hydrogen heats up, causing the pressure in the container to rise.

TBC

Peanut, all of the big oil companies know they have to diversify to survive. H2 is a big part of that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46900918
Seems to government may need some extra generating capacity.

Risky, hundreds outlets, the fuel cell/charger could be a single containerised unit.
More realistic in the short term is a block of 5-10 scaled up with demand.

Risky, there has to be a range of infrastructure solutions required to the change from petrol/diesel to electric.
Full fuel cell cars still require the infrastructure in hydrogen and also require a battery. Battery material supply may get tight bearing in mind where most of it comes from and piped infrastructure is many years away.
This is a solution for hybrid petrol/electric vehicles which may or may not be required in 20-30 years time but it is a start to changing the face of motoring. Luckily this is only a small part of the much bigger AFC picture which is the stationary large scale and microgrid/standby power part of the business.
You can see how the market liked the starter, wait until the main meal is served. Yum Yum.

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/212752/afc-energy-demos-worlds-first-ev-charger-based-on-hydrogen-fuel-cell-technology-212752.html

I think the market likes the diversification of prospective customer base.

Second 30% rise in 2 weeks.

Wile, good post. I would have some faith in the rns if it was backed up by the letter from the Zimbabwe gov so we could see the text. Little that GR has said has come to pass, hence my cynicism over his statements.

Agree Dwolf

7.2p paid, its flying up

IF there was a distressed seller and AFC knew, then maybe they were waiting for it to be finished before the news flow started. Is this the turn around for our patience in the share price? Certainly looks like it.

Steward, that debt is only payable from the profit gained from sales of wolframite from the mine. No wolf no money.

Just a thought, but the containerised solution may actually have the tank as part of the total solution package.

Juste, I asked a few days ago about the letter and the true wording of its contents. I suggested that if it was published it would support the RNS and prove clarity on the issue.