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"With no luck.."

I'm not looking for love from the haters here but I would take a guess that Device Authority, having skin and experience in the game, know a few of the buzzwords and will be quite capable of integrating a NIST module into their offerings as and when it arrives. Rather like Duxy but not so much Andrbea or Richard.

Of course if I were to be totally fruit loop I would point out that NXP, formerly Philips Semiconductors, is mentioned as a contributor but STM, probably still SGS Thompson, are not. Obviously, despite all the shouty stuff about how Keyscaler now works with STM and now owns all the microprocessors, they are totally stuffed in respect of NIST.

"Poster [9/08/2022 18:47]
Keyscaler is network agnostic. The nccoe solution is network layer, specifically for IP protocols.

my answer [9/08/2022 18:50]
OK, many thanks Richard. That's cleared that up. It was a top 10 vendor list in a category (separate target market, nccoe) that we don't pitch at."

https://www.nccoe.nist.gov/projects/trusted-iot-device-network-layer-onboarding-and-lifecycle-management
https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/CSWP/NIST.CSWP.09082020-draft.pdf

Yo Dudes!1!

I think you will find that the draft proposal, if you actually bothered to read it, or the actual title, tells you that it covers more than the network layer. Your hint would be the inclusion of the words "and-lifecycle-management".

Still Keyscaler is everything agnostic and also does lifecycle management so apart from not being bothered or understanding what NIST is on about you are still on a win.

Next up, presumably from Still Waiting, "Device Authority now owns NIST. What price that?"

It would be pointless to suggest that you actually read the document and realise that, once again, this will be a collaborative open source standard that likely excludes proprietary technology unless the owner gives up their rights.

Unfortunately this also means Duxy will be able to incorporate the solution in their bedroom produced product whilst people like Andrbea and Richard will still be shouting "I've got my head stuck in the wardrobe".

Given the industry FVR are involved in then for the giggles this reminds me of the Voyager episode where Neelix has his lungs stolen and they have to use holodeck technology to replace them. The parallel being someone practicing with FVR kit that is actually connected to a live patient and, without access to holodeck technology, they slap a 404 error notice on the patient.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Phage_(episode)

Now showing 404 Page not found.

https://www.fundamentalvr.com/fundamentalvr-secures-series-b-growth-investment/

Looks like someone dropped one. Perhaps they were practicing outside of the sandbox. I guess you have to assume there is nothing going on.

No Worries however I am more intelligent than Bob. Not least because there are at least two of me.

Tyrano over on ADVFN fleshes things out with some numbers.

"Valuation of FVR at the last funding round in May was £31.5 million. $20 million is a lot of money following their £7 million fund raise. The details here are going to be very interesting indeed."

I think the usual bravado about trolls suffering might be premature.

In fact Stent over on ADVFN notes that the original hint to the source came from the Tern website RSS feed aggregator,

https://www.ternplc.com/rss

You might guess that Tern do pay attention to what they publish and therefore at least know about the event.

I would certainly expect that if they had have taken part in the raise they would have released a 'we are very pleased' RNS. They may still do so. Otherwise if they had not... I guess it becomes a bit 'would you expect them to want to' murky? I'm sure there are others who watch the cash burn and might speculate as to whether they had the funds to take part.

Ooops my post executed what I had typed from the page source so it did not appear. Let's try that one again,

"article:published_time" content="2022-08-08T09:00:44+00:00"
"article:modified_time" content="2022-08-08T11:56:35+00:00"
"og:updated_time" content="2022-08-08T11:56:35+00:00"

fingers crossed.

Noted from elsewhere.

https://www.fundamentalvr.com/fundamentalvr-secures-series-b-growth-investment/

It's a protected document requiring a login to view so first question might be is it recent/current or does it refer to a past fundraise and someone has just recently found what might be old news. Now I don't recall a previous RNS or other publication mentioning $20 Million so....

If you view the source of the above web page then you can see the following,

So it was published today at 09:00 then modified and updated about 12:00. I would take that as being a confirmation that it is new. Once again you don't have to believe me.

That raises another, obvious, question. Did Tern take part in that raise or has their holding in FVR been reduced further?

You might have expected or hoped that one way or the other they would have produced an RNS but as yet there has not been one. If one does not arrive it may be a good bet that Tern did not take part and have had their percentage holding reduced.

Anyone else care to comment beyond the usual whining?

"How much do you get paid for making these comments. You are not invested in this company so why all the negative comments?"

"If in doubt ask direct questions and listen to answers."

Let them be known by their direct questions.

I have used the patent system. I understand its value. I understand how difficult it is to take a patent through to grant. I also understand how it might be abused for purpose.

Thanks for joining the discussion.

As suggested I recommend that you and others read the documents available from,

https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21709349&lng=en&tab=doclist
https://register.epo.org/ipfwretrieve?apn=EP.2021053561.W&lng=en
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2021160867&tab=PCTDOCUMENTS

and make your own mind up rather than relying on some random on a bulletin board that suggests,

"And as they have sole patent protection, does that not immediately make them a massive take-over target?

!!!

$$$"

Here we go.

It's keep alive time to pretend to prospective investors that there is a cat in hells chance of getting a patent granted.

This is my opinion, I could be wrong. Read the complete set of filings and make your own minds up.

https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21709349&lng=en&tab=doclist
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=L66JOUPITPLHW4J&appnumber=EP21709349&showPdfPage=all&proc=

Read that one carefully. Specifically the checkboxes. 10 is checked because they got that for free previously and wish to proceed. 11 is not checked because they do not want to waste money on the Extension/Validation states and can get away with that one. 11.1/11.2 It is intended to pay etc.... Nope. Let's not waste our money.

Elsewhere

04) They will pay the examination fee. They have to.
06) No replacement documents. They have given up and are relying on their previous failures.
06) 6.3 no we have nothing from the UK application because with did ask or pay for them to look.
12) No we don't want to accelerate anything because we don't want others to know we have failed.
16) 1250 Euro. A mere pittance to continue the pretence.

That's probably kicked the can another three months down the road so they can snaffle the next set of warrants.

I should not speculate too much but also on the day they filed that request,

https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21709349&lng=en&tab=event

they changed their representative. 29.07.2022 Change - representative

https://youtu.be/RsXuMx5_X9o?t=941
https://i.imgur.com/WoNDTRO.png

NO. YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT!!

https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21709349
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21709349&lng=en&tab=doclist

Show it or an excuse for something else then dry up and blow away.

https://youtu.be/RsXuMx5_X9o?t=878

You raised 25 MSEK in april and it does not cover your order backlog which you are still growing.

So you'll be back for the TO2 in November/December after the launch to cover all of the lunches you have promised with the expectation of still being around in 2023?

In respect of those Pre-Ordered Lunches and noting that you presently only have 26 employees with a desire to employ more in order to sell more Lunches,

https://wyldnetworks.com/preorders

How many of your 26 employees are involved in validating sales generated from that page and how confident are you in that validation process?

https://youtu.be/RsXuMx5_X9o?t=817
https://i.imgur.com/OXUE7RQ.png

and will continue to build it until the launch at the second half of this year."

The what?

You have taken pre-orders for kit you have not yet produced and give a nice graph of the prospective value to the tune of 31 Million SEK

https://www.fxrateslive.com/SEK/GBP/31000000
https://i.imgur.com/NpTvAlr.png

or £2,517,840.76

Because What?

Is it some sort of Investment Enticement PipeLine thing you have heard about whilst not understanding that when your service goes live and all of the people in your PipeLine ask you to fulfill their orders you will just switch on your manufacturing base and deliver £2.5 million of product just like that.

Have you been having lunch with Ridicule again?

Yes. It's born from the deliberately malformed drivel people such as yourself publish on a daily basis to investment forums.

It is unfortunate that collateral damage may occur as a result of your stupids making me look harder at stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsXuMx5_X9o

That's a nice Global Domination Map you have there.

https://youtu.be/RsXuMx5_X9o?t=666
https://i.imgur.com/VwIJtWD.png

You have a *presence* in a country. Now you own it. How does that one work?

Let's just back track.. Water and Agriculture.

https://youtu.be/RsXuMx5_X9o?t=497
https://i.imgur.com/uBSJ7E1.png

Here's a big tractor in a big Field, likely spraying bee killing insecticides all over the place but that's OK because Wyld can monitor the Bee Death rate in the hive.

What we need is battery powered soil moisture module to tell us how much water is needed transmitting the information back to a battery powered Wyld Base station to transmit the data back to a LEO satellite so we can decide whether or not to turn the Water Pumps on in the 85% of the World that do not have Internet connectivity.

Or the power to drive those Water Pumps?

Yes But! Container Ships. What about the Container Ships!1?

Well I suppose they are also battery powered when they are not using their massive sulphur emitting diesel engines to plow their way across the seas and no-one has thought of hooking up some sort of electricity generating system to power some navigational lights or send data so people can check out whether Ever Given has got stuck again...

https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000

I think I might be running out of meaningful use cases.

Nooooo. Pipe Lines. No one builds pipelines without supplying electricity or communications infrastructure to them. It's got to cost at least $1,000,000 a mile for the pipes unless you are in Venezuela and don't mind using a leaky hosepipe. Much too expensive to add and power the support equipment required.

You would be totally stuffed if Wyld could not float in and put a £45 battery powered thing on it.

Really?

Oil Rigs Though!!11!!**!!!

It's not as if they have a source of energy to generate electricity and they are too small to fit a satellite dish to. I worked on an oil rig once and all we had was Escort when the postie delivered it.

You What?

Yeah But!!! It's cheap because we use unlicensed bands to provide data from your $1,000,000 a mile pipeline and the regulation on them is really really good so no probs with the Haxorz and anyway Device Authority who also haves patents on anti GSM jamming stuff because they may have bought a company whose name I can't recall.

Lah Lah Lah.

Do you get the impression I do not believe in the validity or value of Wyld's, as presented, business model?

Hello Mr No Trousers,

"The fact I was posting regarding the NHS was to clarify it was a cyber attack, I didn’t in anyway link it to DA. The second post is relevant as it will be under the remit of homeland security that is currently undergoing trials with Keyscaler."

*One* post linking DA to the attack on the NHS.

https://i.imgur.com/G8nSShJ.png

Next time go back to ADVFN and edit your post so you can look less stupid.

Thanks for that one Sweepie.

Here's the Amiho [Wyld Connect] Module in the presentation.

https://youtu.be/RsXuMx5_X9o?t=360
https://i.imgur.com/7nQmPVo.png

https://wyldnetworks.com/am102-preorder
https://wyldnetworks.com/directus/assets/147a8486-7e49-4c0a-8a64-249c16c110b4

This board is labelled WYLD and the Lorawan IC is dated 2022.

So it would seem the concerns about access to and implementation of the technology raised in my my previous post are misplaced. That may still leave the ownership rights.

This time from the person who publishes the results of their dummy trades without realising the broker on the other end is used to having their time wasted so offers sweet deals because they don't have the trousers to complete the offer.

How sad is that?

"The cyber attack on the NHS has been confirmed.

NHS 111 software outage confirmed as cyber-attack https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62442127

Also of relevance
It’s not surprising the US Homelamd security are all over DA with Keyscaler."

Actually Mr No Trousers it is of no relevance. US Homeland security has an association with DA because they provide the authentication for IoT equipment supplied by a third party to in field monitoring equipment. It is highly unlikely that the NHS suffered this attack because a machine that goes Beep was compromised.

You also failed to mention that the NHS is worth Beeellions and by implication DA must also be worth Beeellions in the same way that Mars Bars are a Beeellion Dollar industry and they have Bar Codes on them.

Give it a while and Still Waiting might be along to join those dots for you.

On a Saturday because as Rhodi and his Printer Maintenance Person have already said I am a sad person. They are in many respects correct as the following may demonstrate.

Again I note that whilst Wyld has no apparent patent protection on their products that is not necessarily a barrier to their Global Domination of the IOT to Satellite Connected World as long as they establish and maintain a lead. They do already know the buzzwords and more importantly how to implement them.

Kkrr11ss2 suggested Wyld's IP came from Flexiops so, whilst that one was a ramping red herring, we're down a rabbit hole looking for somewhere else that they may have or may have acquired IP.

https://wyldnetworks.com/am094
https://wyldnetworks.com/am095

If you recall Wyld have previously claimed that they are somewhat immune to general semiconductor shortages. My presumption would be that when Amiho was acquired there was a bunch of bankrupt stock available from the deal and this is what will keep them going until they run out.

The 095 board is usefully dated 2017.

Amiho is mildly interesting,

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08398544/filing-history

and more so because,

https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/82791-28

I do like a bit of research rather than what my imaginary mates down the pub or fantasy contacts in the industry tell me so I was a bit bothered that link might have been mistaken. This one, from the horses mouth is a bit better,

https://www.ternplc.com/non-rns-news/invma-acquires-assets-from-amiho-technology

It appears that they were actually acquired by what is now known as Konektio, formerly InVMA. This is all rather incestuous.

So, whilst I hold no shares in Tern or any of their portfolio companies, since I am obviously a shorter who will burn in hell for eternity I am forced to wonder.

Wyld product appears to be based on old stock from a company that is apparently owned by Konektio. What's that all about? Furthermore who owns the IP on the masks when they need to make some more? On top of that who has and/or owns the knowledge base required to implement and operate the underlying hardware and software stacks?

Just wondering out loud because if Wyld has not locked that in along with the capability to implement or recreate it then Konektio might have a worrying amount of leverage against Wyld. You may also remember previous concerns about the relationship between InVMA and another American Entity. Again, just wondering.

Hope you are all enjoying the nice weather.