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Among 36,523 participants who had no evidence of existing or prior SARS-CoV-2 infection by the time of the immunizations, there were 170 cases of COVID-19 observed with onset at least 7 days after the second dose; 8 cases occurred in vaccine recipients, and 162 in placebo recipients, corresponding to 95.0% vaccine efficacy (95% credible interval [CI, 90.3, 97.6]). Among participants with and without evidence of prior SARS CoV-2 infection, there were 9 cases of COVID-19 among vaccine recipients and 169 among placebo recipients, corresponding to 94.6% vaccine efficacy (95% CI [89.9, 97.3]).

The cumulative incidence of COVID-19 cases over time among placebo and vaccine recipients began to diverge by 12 days after the first dose, and 52.4% vaccine efficacy (95% confidence interval: 29.5, 68.4) was observed between dose 1 and dose 2, indicating the early onset of a partially protective effect of immunization. Two doses of vaccine provide the maximum protection observed. Ten cases of severe COVID-19 were observed with onset after the first dose. Nine cases occurred among placebo recipients and one among BNT162b2 recipients.

BNT162b2 exhibited a favorable tolerability and safety profile. Based on a data cut-off date of October 9, 2020, 37,706 participants had a median of at least two months of safety data available after dose 2 and contributed to the main safety dataset. Among these participants, 49% were female; 83% were White; 9% were Black or African American; 28% were Hispanic/Latinx; 35% were obese (BMI =30.0 kg/m2); and 21% had at least one underlying comorbidity. The median age was 52 years, and 42% were older than 55 years.

The most common adverse events of BNT162b2 were transient, mild to moderate pain at the injection site, fatigue and headache, and these generally resolved within two days. These reactions were less common and milder in older adults than younger adults. Severe reactions (Grade 3) were reported in fewer than 2% of vaccine recipients after either dose except for fatigue (3.8%) and headache (2.0%). Fever (=38 °C) was reported in similar proportions of younger (16%) and older (11%) vaccine recipients. Rates of serious adverse events were similar between vaccine and placebo groups (0.6% and 0.5%).There were no COVID-19 related deaths.

All trial participants will continue to be monitored to assess long-term protection and safety for an additional two years after their second dose.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-publication-results-landmark

The trials should 95% efficacy.

If you have evidence the trial did not show these results, publish your name, the name of a solicitor to receive summons and I will personally arange your claims and details are sent to Pfizer for them to start proceedings.

If you don't reveal yourself, then shut up.

Meanwhile, efforts to track you down and out you in public are underway.

SAVINGS STOCKPILE AND PENT-UP DEMAND: THE COMING CONSUMER
SPENDING SPREE (1405 EST/1905 GMT)

The pandemic, and the resulting economic shock due to
widespread lockdowns to contain it, has made consumers
understandably cautious. But pent-up demand, combined with a
substantial increase in household savings, suggests consumers
could roar back to life in the coming year.

Oxford Economics published a research note on what global
markets can expect from the consumer in 2021 as vaccine
deployment and economic reopenings hopefully coincide with
people reopening their wallets.

"Sharply rising household savings, booming house prices,
strong financial markets, and unprecedented fiscal support have
all contributed to unusually strong household balance sheets at
the start of 2021," writes Tamara Basic Vasiljev, senior
economist at OE. "Consumers are still cautious but can now
afford a spending spree."

Lost income was offset by fiscal support in most advanced
economies, according to Vasiljev, who adds that easy monetary
policy, rising residential real estate prices and booming
financial markets have strengthened household balance sheets,
according to the note.

But this phenomenon failed to benefit all households
equally. "A large share of the savings boost may have been
accrued by wealthy households that have suffered less economic
hardship during the pandemic, while many of the relative losers
may have run down their savings," Vasiljev says.

In the United States, where the consumer contributes about
70% of economic growth, increased savings deposits and a sharp
decline in revolving credit outstanding suggests that when
Americans feel confident enough to embark on a post-COVID
spending spree, they'll be able to afford it:

(Stephen Culp)

"Hi
Do kids (under 18s) have to test negative for Covid before travel ?"

Do hids (under 18) go free in the hotels?

Time to dig out that fake BBC press card!

Hotel quarantine is just not the British way. Bet you it ends up in a bit of a farce and with a lot of unpaid bills!

As for having to give a reason for travelling, I can see that being pulled very soon. That will get a very big thumbs down form a wide range of MPs on both sides of the house - that is just a bit too much infringment on the civil liberties front. Expect that one to be amended.

...my tan is fading fast and I'm allergic to spray tan.

LIBERUM RAISES INTERNATIONAL CONSOLIDATED AIRLINES PENCE PRICE TARGET TO 150 (100) PENCE - 'HOLD'
BERENBERG RAISES INTERNATIONAL CONSOLIDATED AIRLINES PRICE TARGET TO 190 (180) PENCE - 'BUY'

Place your bets, throw the dice!!!!

Portland,
BA sale ending in a couple of days, time for people to make their mind up because when flights go back on sale proper, they will be as rare as hens teeth with a premium. The good ol' days of vastly over priced tickets will be back - the revenue from which I don't think many pis have considered when predicitng sp recovery.

Most salaried people have 4 weeks annual leave, and as they are on furlough or wfh many will not have taken holiday and may still have weeks of carry over from last year. Expect the unions to be all over that. So if there is still a two week quarantine, as long as you can get into the overseas destinations with limited or no quarantine then summer holidays will be very much on the cards. As I posted previously, I expect entire hotels and holiday resorts to become 'bubbles' allowing free access for specific groups, i.e. like Golden Sands in Varna to be offered to UK only holiday makers as long as they don't leave the 'compound' and similar arrangements.

............ and,
I also expect that the quarantine time will be related to passing COVID tests, so it might be that a maximum of 5 or 7 days is required. The detail still to be announced, but I predict that sort of arrangement. Also, I expect financial assitance package to be included.

Odd that Easy Jet goes down, must be a presumption that the extended quarantine measures will negatively impact on Easy Jet's Brazilain routes.

Yup, that is how stupid many pi are. Should I post that the only impact for the EU carriers is Portugal, which already have significant restrictions applied, or should I say nothing and let the numpties run around on the play ground like headless chickens?

They are not 'bans' they are enforcing quarantine!

There is a BIG differernce.

We're all gettin' laid!

Good news, full boarder lockdown avoided, there will be some changes, details to follow from PP.

Will I see a freak ralley and bag my 168 today?

No of course not don't be so silly [slap wrist]. Need to wait another week for that.

:)

Taking their time, I assume the resistance to the quarantine idea is very strong. Just because you get your argument to dominant the media narrative doesn't mean you get the policy in play. The way this has come about and media campaign had the hall marks of yet another Blair cabal great idea - ill thought through and ignoring wider real world realities.

Dont know the time but the commercial radio news stating ministers have been discussing contridicts BBC web site saying discussion this evening. I understand the discussion is this evening, despite the facy Boris is chairing the regular news briefing this evening - reminding everybody who he is.

But the cabinet is not scheduled to discuss the travel restrictions until this evening......

Do remember, mutations also go in the other direction, i.e. the COVID becomes benign. It is actually how the evolution works best for the virus. Being able to be passed through everyone requires nobody to fall ill or die and hence not able to pass on the virus. The virus is not a sentient being or concious of its actions, but this is generally how such pandemics pass through including in the animal population. There were no vaccines with the black death or Spanish flue for example. A more 'sucessful' variant may all ready be circulating. Sucessfull for the virus in that it is able to pass around through more people becasue they are not sef-isolating with symptoms or curtailing the infection by dying. Note a the very high number of cases yet the rate of rate of death in the normalised figuers shows an overall much lower proportion of people dying to being infected. True, the health services are better at treating it, but the number of know infected people is so much higher that better treatment can not explain the comparatively lower death numbers.
It is just a thought, but we may suddenly find many testing positive, but fewer and fewer people showing symptoms or falling very sick and dying. There is as much chance that the next mutation announced is declared benign as it is dangerous.

Remember where you heard this thought first!