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now add in all the people who had symptoms but didn't test so they avoided isolation and test and trace, so double the number again perhaps...

just filter fordm and his crackpot theories about santa and death.

They are silent because they think of SA as white elite people. They have no idea of the societal makeup of SA. There is a lot of very bad vibes down there in the way travel bans had been imposed and the bloody minded ignorance when SA has fed the world data on omicron. There should be shamed heads all around the northern hemisphere.

Sorry flipper, but you are wrong there on no deaths from Omicron. They were and continue to be big news events from early December onward that just a single death has occured where somebody specifically tested positive for omicron. It was the extent of the delay in finding people dying of omicron despite vast increases in positive covid tests with omicron that started to attract the attention that omicron was clearly nothing like as deadly as any of the others. And the very low number of deaths and hospitalisations is bearing that out. We were told we needed 3-4 weeks to understand the variant effects, then another few weeks, then more weeks and today it is still being claimed it is too early to know. And that is stated for one specific reason, the panic doomsday predictions are not coming to pass so time is being bought in a desperate hope by some more callus experts that eventually there will be a pile of bodies so they save face. SA is the key indicator with modern facilities and modern genome sequencing and modern testing and data keeping. It is not one great shanty town that some think. Everything seen in SA is being replicated a week or two or three along the time scale. If omicron had emerged in the US or Japan then data seen so far would not be rejected because of some bigoted attitude like against SA because of apartheid. A lot of these 'experts' are from the field of academia and you just have to look at the people involved with university woke culture to see the old leftie establishment is still as ingrained in academia as it ever was form the 60s onwards, including in the classroom.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10353237/Death-rates-SAs-Omicron-Covid-wave-just-QUARTER-levels-seen-previous-surges.html

"There is roughly 35 days between deaths from Covid and infection"

For delta maybe, but omicron is different and the death rate is very much lower than delta and the hospitalisation rate is also very much lower and the spread rate has a physical limit to it as observed in the first countries to get it and indeed in SA the peak has passed and infection rates dropping fast. This is all freely available data but for some reason experts all over the world are specifically ignoring it bar a few lone voices pointing out the truths the rest of the people seem to be able to understand as shown in extensive mass protests.

The 'experts' are holding on to their new found seats of power and trying to keep the pandemic going despite evidence that it is in effect over and tailing off.

Please stop reposting quackery from people I filtered a long time ago!

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sage-data-suggests-omicron-patients-leave-hospital-sooner

Another breach in the data dam. SAGE again being exposed and I predict there will be many more revelations like this and how the experts have been pulling a fast one. Now that they are being questioned, the reality is starting to appear.

Hexam, you have rather twisted my words. I was clearly referencing omicron, not the earlier variants. I was also specifically referencing the RATE of spread. Everywhere omicron has cropped up the same pattern of an initial surge is seen irrespective of the restrictions in place, except ion Xian in China where people are under 24hr curfew and posting messages they are starving to death in their houses. The kinetics of the spread of the virus has been repeated so many times that it has to be questioned why restrictions are being bothered with as they have no measurable effect and SA is showing clearly that the peak is quick and rates are declining fast. Why is this being ignored? Huge damage is being done to communities and economies and the evidence qualifying this is simply non-existent. The article in the post above is an example of the questioning to come and why such questioning needs to be backdated pre omicron otherwise we are going to be held in this cycle for months if not years to come.

But there is no need for any type of lockdown. Lockdowns are only used to try and limit the rate of spread, omicron has no limit of spread. All attempts to limit omicron spread have failed worldwide. The critical bit is how sick people get with it and whether they need hospital treatment or a bed in hospital. The need for hospitalization is very small compared to infection numbers and rather than get bigger, as SA shows the exact opposite happens. Yes, the experts have been coming up with all sorts of permutations to try and explain away this and buy time to see the panic warnings come true. But they aren't. There is no need for any restrictions at all with omicron. So what we need expensive nightingale units for is a bit of contentious issue. Omicron is exposing more and more the difference between the experts predictions and the real world. But that begs a new question, how much of what the experts recommended before omicron was a pile of rubbish?

Slaps head in disbelief! Setting up new Nightingale hospitals again. Simply ignoring all the evidence that there is no surge beyond capacity in the hospitals. This is purely a political sop to a load of experts who are facing a huge loss of status as all the predictions about omicron fail and with the knowledge that the everybody else has known the truth for weeks now. The expert community has been so wrong o this it brings into questions just how far wrong they have been to date and how much they used a lack of knowledge in the wider population to implement restrictions that have actually have no overall impact and never would. I have to call into question whether all those lockdowns, mask wearing, travel restrictions were known to not to be effective but were pushed by the experts as they used the people as lab rats in experiments or used the opportunity to apply their own social theories and environmental ideology.

Whatever the conclusion, these nightingale units are a 100% waste of money and will not be used.

As blinding obvious as you can get, same person, multiple avatars. It is embarrassing to watch.

The Welsh afraid of squirrels, the Scotts afraid of a lady fish, the English afraid of.... nuffing! The planet should thank the existence of the English for saving them from everything from Daleks to covids. Even Doctor WHO is English, even when he should be speaking with one of those indecipherable Scotts accents, he/she played safe and went English. Were was I? I'm losing the thread I think. Airline stocks to baby eating zombie squirrels and Santa deniers. Have I missed something?

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2021-12-29/vicious-squirrel-terrorises-welsh-village-as-more-than-20-people-bitten

Wales is gettin' it now! First flesh eating omicron variations, some assembly leader [don't know his name], reintroducing prohibition, and now killer zombie squirrels eating the Welsh babies. Not a good year for the Welsh

What anti-santa crap is that you're trying to spread? Anti-vaxxing is one thing, but you've gone too far now.

fordm - FILTERED!!

Agreed fordm, he will be a statistic. One of the many fallen 'from' but not 'with'.

https://www.nationalworld.com/health/coronavirus/will-there-be-new-covid-restrictions-what-post-new-year-rules-could-look-like-in-england-as-pm-urges-caution-3509587

Boris Johnson has urged people to enjoy New Year celebrations in a “cautious and sensible way”

So, does that mean only one bottle of whisky, one bottle of vodka and only one bottle of brandy? How many beers can I have with all that?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-covid-wave-boroughs-analysis-omicron-hospitalisations-b974183.html

I said a few times, the projected increase in infections was physically impossible and the rate of infection would rapidly tend to a limit, which it has even in such a population of dense people, or should that be densely populated- you choose!

The tail of the infection rate will be proportionally as long as the initial exponential increase before tending to the upper rate limit, identical to all the other waves. What should be noted, for these curves all over the world, masks have had no impact of resisting the spread and indeed will have facilitated it. Any UV powder test will show it, but you don't make money or nudge populations by not selling masks!!!

When you drop your estimates from 79% to 53% as a correction, that's not messing around the margins of error. That is a fundamental flaw in your system which policy decisions are based on. It is beginning to look a lot like proper statisticians are slowly taking over. It's been happening in a lot of places where the figures are being challenged with increasing confidence. How the scientists have been evaluating might be within their field and laboratory, but it looks like it is not transferring to real world populations very well. ANybody who questioned the numbers at the start and through 2020 was anti---- labelled and hence pushed off the air. Sounds familiar?

https://consumer.healthday.com/b-12-29-cdc-lowers-estimate-of-omicrons-prevalence-in-u-s-2656189471.html

One small problem on the journey back, a lot of **** heads trying to keep between the white lines, all four or six of them! A&E is going to be busy on New Year's day.

I think that picture is a fake!

Sector pushing ahead a little, TUI profit take, but it did spurt during last trading, IAG dragging but that could be for heap of earsons, possibly the wave of money moving between stocks. So tomorrow IAG will go +2.5%, Wizz down 2%. I was beginning to get a feel for the round robin of peaks between the sector shares before omicron struck, I think now omicron is understood and the trajectory can be planned for, the pattern will return to the sector and the iis will return to shifting bulk of position between individual stocks every couple of days. Just have to second guess which one will be picked next and follow them. From here on in there is only one gradient for travel as omicron ends the pandemic. The next target is ending of testing. It contributes nothing to pandemic control and is purely an academic exercise. Time to stop using travellers as lab rats in some giant experiment. Time for the experts to return to their laboratories and go back to work on volunteer groups only. Thanks for the work you have done, thank you for the vaccine. Now it is time to leave the political and social arena and return whence you came with dignity still intact. Otherwise, you will be chewed up and spat out as is everybody else in politicas at one time or another.