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British Airways parent International Consolidated Airlines Group SA was 2.3% lower, while easyJet PLC was down 1.7%.

The LSE news alert service lists IAG amongst the "SMALL_CAP_LOSERS".

Small cap? Know your place?

relative
considered in relation or in proportion to something else.
"the relative effectiveness of the various mechanisms is not known"

relevant
closely connected or appropriate to what is being done or considered.
"what small companies need is relevant advice"

Either, or. Depends what your favourite alphabet letters are. If you are a fna of 'I', especially in the narcissistic way, then I suppose relative would be more relevant, or relative.

As for world events, this is probably more concerning, well to me at least.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40790040.html

"a lot of US airlines use code share with BA so can directly impact sp"

are you sure that is relative?

no jotom, I am a realist, I am not a rose tinted rainbow chaser. I do not edit and filter to present a false positive or a false negative picture like the wishful thinkers amongst you crave for. All you want to hear is a validation of your choices and you are highly susceptible to anything that echoes your choices and block out anything that challenges your choices. It is why so many people like you get suckered into buying shares and end losing money time and time again. Whether I own shares in any company at any particular time is irrelevant. My trading strategy for IAG is clearly laid out and in the open. I comment as I see fit in the vain hope an informed and intelligent person will post something that actual helps me fine tune or even change my decision. And as far as people making financial decisions, what would you have? A never ending stream of happy clappy positive lies selling a lie? You just want everything to be positive with no negative consequences to be seen? Grow a pair, the real world is not like that. You MUST consider the full 360 in order to understand what the iis might do so you can second guess them and make a gain, instead of the all too familiar loss so many of you encounter as you react after the event and after the iis have made their move. You have no place criticizing me for considering all angles. It would be utterly foolish to do anything else.

err??? and?? How does lead to a claim that I think this story affects world sp? or indeed any sp? If fact, as I point out, the issue is what may happen in the future as it plays out.

I appreciate you wanted to sound all big and clever slapping me down for posting a news item that you don't understand but is nevertheless could be quite pertinent to IAG form multiple angles. I have even spent my time expanding on the issue to educate and inform you. But you continue trying to make out some bizzare correlation between world sp and this breaking story. My last bit of advice for you. Put the spade away, climb out the hole whilst you still can and walk away.

Who the hell said the Airbus news has any effect of today's share price?

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. I merely put up the story as a point of interest of items that may affect IAG. How the hell do you extrapolate into a world market drop? You really have no idea what you are talking about.

https://www.metro.us/airbus-revokes-qatar-order/

Better detail in this article.

My fear for IAG will be a potential for Qatar to use its shareholder position to retaliate against Airbus if this escalates further, currently, "Fleet modernisation will continue in coming years with further deliveries of 64 Airbus A320neo series aircraft, 26 Airbus A350s, 10 Boeing 787s and 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft."

As far as the seed of the incident is concerned, remember Qatar is state owned.

"The European Union Aviation Safety Agency, which is responsible for the overall design but not the locally regulated airworthiness of individual planes in service, has said it has not so far found safety problems with A350s that it inspected.
Qatar is so far the only country to ground some of the jets.
But a Reuters investigation https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/costly-airbus-paint-flaw-goes-wider-than-gulf-2021-11-29 in November revealed at least five other airlines had discovered paint or surface flaws since 2016, prompting Airbus to set up an internal task force before the Qatar row, and to explore a new A350 anti-lightning design."

There is high level face saving politics, governments, regulating bodies and lots of money involved. To consider this issue as unrelated to IAG is a nonsense. It might amount to nothing, it might blow up into an all out battle with a lot of unexpected twists and turns. The EU is deep in these things as will the UK government given the production facilities and money committed from UK businesses. It is a failure of business to have reached the state where Airbus just dumps a contract like that which will almost certainly have some reaction. How much it could affect IAG, and lots of other carriers, remains to be seen but it is 100% a case of keep an eye on this part of the 360.

Fear of the unknown may affect sp when the battle over Eastern Ukraine starts. Puti is likely to go for incremental land grabs as with Crimea so this might be gong on for a very long time and markets will have knee jerk reactions but become 'familiar' with the long term situation as long as Putin is around. I would note that there are a lot of people with financial interests in Russia who do not share Putin's old fashioned imperial aspirations. I wouldn't assume he has the level of control some think he has inside Russia and he could be 'removed' with one cup of laced tea!

Oh, and don't forget who is a major shareholder in IAG. Will the Airbus move influence Qatar in some unexpected way? Will they throw a hiss fit and dump all their shares or will they keep other interests out of the dispute?

so why are you not calling out everybody who is talking about Russian?Ukraine? why do you reserve negative comment solely for one individual? And Airbus news is directly related to IAG, IG airlines fly hundreds of them and they too might have the paint issue. Will Airbus suddenly cancel other airline orders who question the paint issue? Unbelievable you don't see that.

Airbus is wound up deeply with the politics and politicians of the EU. With the amounts of money and strategic location of production lines, to think anything else is a bit absurd. Many large businesses are tied up with governments and there is a lot of political interference to varying degrees in different countries. And bearing in mind future aircraft purchases and orders to be placed, by airlines, and what is IAG a group of, are you sure this is unrelated to IAG? The airlines operate in an airline industry and any and everything that relates to has a potential knock on effect. To say telecom industries in the US starting up 5G has nothing to do with airlines, well, what then transpired? jotom, you are remarkably naive as an investor. I can see you blinkered to everything else in the world except your ticker tape IAG sp and believe that and only that is the single factor for the sp.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/airbus-cancels-qatar-airways-order-for-50-a321-planes-271642749981

This is a good example of just who self-important some people are within the EU. This is just ridiculous.

So the WHO says ban restrictions unless thought necessary. So? Is that not what countries are doing now?

https://mediacentre.britishairways.com/news/20012022/british-airways-announces-new-senior-hires-as-it-looks-to-boost-its-recovery-from-the-global-pandemic

https://www.traveloffpath.com/thailand-relaunches-quarantine-free-entry-with-new-requirements/

And this massively over complicated rule is going to help the travel industry recover? This is a nonsense and given this is the kind of thinking going on out there, maybe those predictions of it taking until 2024 for the industry to recover have foundation. ANY testing is a block mentally for travelling. Schemes like this are not going to be put to one side quickly because of all the upfront costs. Would you bother with all this hassle? I certainly won't be boarding any planes to destinations with this sort of crap to deal with.

any link Mary....

bobbins, when you cross the road to the pub look out for that big red......... eeek.... bus. To late.

bobbins2, RIP

https://www.***************************/easyjet-plc-.0-potential-downside-indicated-by-jp-morgan/4121045718

This is what happens when bots try to write news stories!

For reasons best known only to the countries themselves, there is still an insistence by many destinations to have fit to fly tests. The pax numbers are simply NOT going to restore to pre-pandemic levels until those tests are taken away. UK, Germany, Spain are clear and ahead of the game. We need the likes of the US to dump the tests and in doing so encourage the rest of the world to follow. The pandemic is over, and this new change has to be approached head on and acted on.