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@lunchbox. What kind of volatility do you mean? From £2.42 down to £1.87. Yes, that's a good kind of volatility to avoid. LOL

VM fined £28m. BT share price down. House of cards.

@expat. Fleccy would pick holes in a moth-eaten rug - probably his own. Think he's a baldie. LOL

You could well have something there, expat. Might be the reason behind the re-registration of BT. Fingers crossed.

Ripley, thanks for your informative post. That's what I have to put up with all the time, with the BT engineers and ex BT engineers on this board. You are not allowed to say anything negative about the company. If you do, they run to report you to teacher, hoping you will be banned. Talk about a takeover and you get abused. They're just like the sad, sick government in this country, attempting to block free will and free speech. You can't blame them. It's what socialists do. They can't tell the difference between men and women, either, poor loves!

Snakeman, might I humbly suggest that you direct your venom towards the parlous state of BT and the government who controls it. I am merely a messenger, delivering what must be unbearable truths to you and the other disgruntled working class heathens on this board.

You know the type - getting on a bit, reared on the stench of socialism, cheap beer and greasy food. Suffering from indigestion, baldness, a distended belly, and a hairy nose - that kinda thing.

Suggest you change your ways. Stop passing wind and picking your nose in public just to annoy the people around you. Get fit. Go to church. Do not make love outside marriage. Forsake the dark side. Breathe in some clean, fresh country air. Tear up your CWU card and cancel your subs.

You'll be on the way to redemption before you know it.

Have a great weekend. No offence meant. Just want the best for you and yours.

Your pal Bidboy, the fount of all knowledge and reason.

Yes, DarkAnge. And to listen to all the self-interested BT apologists (correction, BT engineers and ex BT engineers) on this board you would think that the company is riding on the crest of a wave. They don't give a fig about normal retail investors - only their jobs and pensions. I understand that.

What I don't understand, and won't accept, is their attempt to get anyone who disagrees with their twisted narrative banned. That's anti-democratic. BT is in the same state as the UK, broken, bust, dispirited, and led by a bunch of inadequates.

I am incredulous at the thought of the CEO being awarded over £5 million, for what? Failing to stand up to the government and Ofcom, introducing a disastrous DEI policy and losing 825,000 broadband customers in the last year alone!

When is this company, and this country, going to come to its senses and kick out the socialists and the unions (in the case the CWU) paymasters?

All responses welcome. Good luck all.

I asked AI the following question: If I had invested £5000 per year in BT shares over the past 10 years, what would be the value of my £50,000 investment in cash terms today, allowing for the two years when there were no dividends and taking account of inflation? Answer: £39k.

Interestingly, someone who had instead invested the same £5,000 per year into the FTSE All-Share index (with dividends reinvested) would likely have around £70,000–£80,000 today, while the same contributions into a global equity index such as one tracking the MSCI World would likely be worth well over £90,000.

"Arguably the regulators and UK Government's are responsible for ensuring the UK will never have companies at the scale of US Hyperscale's, since the UK encourages competition through value destruction of historically large companies like BT. You could liken the UK's regulatory authorities as an autoimmune disease that destroys the good along with the bad, meanwhile they sit back while US companies jump in and steal the family silver."

FLECCY, IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU WROTE ABOVE, WHY HAVE YOU BEEN CONTINUOUSLY PLUGGING BT FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS?

BTPS & Crown Guarantee : "...This means the government would step in to ensure the scheme remains funded for ongoing payments, making full (or near-full) pensions highly likely for most members. However, it is not an unconditional, individual-level 100% guarantee like some public-sector schemes, and outcomes could depend on exact funding, rules, and any PPF involvement for edge cases." Pensions Age.

The thing that gets me is they don't countenance any other opinion whatsoever Aus. I see BT as a microcosm of the country - in debt, not knowing which way to turn, managed by fools, supported by idiots. Take the pension fund. They talk blithely about the gap in funding begng closed by 2030. But no mention of the £300 million they lost on their investment with Thames Water! And now, apparently, it's all about de-risking investments. Such investments should never have been 'at risk' in the first place. Problem, yet again, is fools running the show.

Latest formal valuation (30 June 2023): £3.7 billion deficit.

Interim update (30 June 2025): Deficit reduced to £3.2 billion, helped by a £600 million contribution from BT in April 2025.

BT is paying deficit funding contributions under a recovery plan agreed with the Trustee. Additional potential contributions (up to £300m/year in some scenarios) might soon be required.

It would seem that posters on this board are spending more time getting people banned than talking about the sad and sick state of BT share price and the company itself. Has anyone asked themselves why the share price has sunk so low. No, you just keep saying things will get better. Some posters have been saying that for 11 years! Take the JV announcement. Nothing will come of it for at least 3 years, and then only with regulatory approval. It would appear that the majority of posters here are either current or ex BT engineers. They don't want a bid to be successful because it might affect their job security and their pensions . They appear to be happy to let the company carry on in its usual, haphazard, bumbling way, than to help to put things right. They want to retain the status quo in the face of mountainous debt, a massive pension contribution shortfall, a huge annual loss of broadband customers and a BoD that's clearly blind to reality - a bit like the CWU that holds sway here. Yes, the Crown Guarantee guarantees your pensions if BT goes bust. But it does not guarantee you the FULL AMOUNT of those pensions. Think about that the next time a bid comes in and you attempt to undermine it. Good luck all. And please stop believing in false prophets. It won't end well.

Beginning to think the BT JV deal with Verizon is just more pie-in-the-sky, aimed at easing the downward pressure on the BT share price, for when Bharti pull out their investment in the company. If this happens - and despite all the bullish noises from Openreach engineers and CWU members in this forum - the share price will sink to well below 100p. Only my opinion, of course. However, it will become even more likely if there is no snap general election and the Labour rabble remain in power. The JV announcement and the FT article have clearly had the opposite effect to what was intended.

You appear to be living in fairyland MJK2, just like the Financial Times - once a respected newspaper, now more interested in collecting online subs (just like the flailing CWU). The only reason Bharti Bros are hanging on is the thought of a general election in the next few weeks/months. Then, and only then, BT might have a chance. Other than that, we are all doomed, I tell you. Doomed, including fleccy (a poster who has led you all up the garden path by constantly telling you the BT revival is just around the corner). Which bloody corner? The majority here don't care, because you have your own agenda. It's the same agenda a the BoD - to save your jobs for as long as possible. Laugh, I nearly cried. Correction, I am crying now. LOL

I'm not interested in your personal financial transactions, flaccid. I just think you are fake. Good luck with your investments.

Sorry Godo, forgot to add...And yet fleccy sits here giving advice to all and sundry, as if he's a real pundit. More fool you lot for listening to him and believing him. LOL

Nothing wrong in that Godo. Good luck to you. Main thing to remember is not to put all your eggs in one basket like fleccy. Oh I'm wrong about that. He is invested in Vodafone too. Two of worst performing shared in the history of telecommunications. LOL

Arees, I'm here to talk about something you never talk about - BT. All you seem to do is agree with fleccy. Form an opinion, mate - preferably about BT. At this rate, even the Crown Guarantee won't cover the full amount of your BT pension. Sorry about that.

Too right, Larry. And fleccy is still breaking even and talking about comparisons. Never come across such an apologist for a company that has been pulling the wool over our eyes for 10+ years, and continues to do so. If Bharti pulls out, which now looks likely, the BT share price will plummet to less than 100p. Fleccy will still be breaking even, and Carrington will be 'adding a few more'! When are you guys going to wake up and smell the coffee. Your 'leader' is a false prophet and a numbskull.