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To break even one would need to sell pre-consolidation shares for 15x original price. 15x 18.5 = 277.5.
However, due to there being new shares issued at the same time, the share value is diluted. So on this basis, the value is only 8.12x original price. 8.12x 18.5 = 150.22.
Hi Banbury
The table shows 9 Companies with MCap lower than £650M and 3 Companies with MCap lower than £600M. Of course this situation might change before the review date but I think Saga should have a chance of entry into FT250 if the SP reaches 429 by the end of May. It may then be more attractive for institutions.
Hi Banbury
I looked at this table and ordered it by MCap.
https://www.londonstockexchange.com/indices/ftse-250/constituents/table?page=13
The lowest MCap may well drop out and next review so I guessed £600M would do it.
I think the constituents of the FT250 are reviewed every quarter and next review should be end of May. I think that Saga may enter the FT250 if the MCap is greater than about 600M. This equates to about SP= 429.
Please note I don’t know whether any of above is correct but have tried to work this out using Google.
Hi Rox
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Thanks Banbury and Pianista.
Great info from both of you.
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Hi Rox
If an investor bought 1500 shares for 15P before consolidation, he would now only have 100 shares. For how much would he need to sell them in order to break even?
I think the answer is £2.25 (ie 15 x old price).
So it depends on what question is being asked whether 15x or 8.12x is the answer.
Rox
My post of 25th October 2020 repeated below:
“TheFarEnd is correct IMHO in dispelling the myth that the offer price was related to 15 x 33 = 495. I am grateful for his intervention which makes me (and probably many others) understand this much better. However I think that Pianista is also correct in saying that the £140m (£1 per share) should also play a part in this analysis. So I am taking from this that the offer price was equivalent to between £2.66 and £3.66 per share (not £4.95) based on today’s consolidated shares. There are all sorts of other factors that one could consider but some are imponderable.”
Why have you repeated yourself many times over months in your inimitable didactic manner about this simple calculation? In any case Pokerchips had already agreed.
I hope this link helps to clarify.
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826