London South East | The UK's favourite investor portal.

#MoreComedyGold

c2645sg – 20/09/25 - Quote: “No-one even corrected me.”

@c2645sg – Honestly, who has enough time to correct EVERY mistake you make on here? < Roll Eyes >

Although, it is funny how confident you are that no one you’ve ‘filtered’ corrected you...

c2645sg – 15/03/25 – “I do love this site, the more green boxes I see the more I post.”

c2645sg – 05/05/25 – “More green filtered boxes today”

- - - - -

@c2645sg – It’s not my fault you can’t keep your story straight, or even avoid being your own definition of a shallow man. ;-)

c2645sg – 17/09/25 - SWC.PL – “It's a shallow man who blocks you and can't stand up for himself.”

- - - - -

c2645sg – 20/09/25 - “Where is the Valhalla? I bet we don’t see any in 2025. So you can imagine what the results will be like without it. It was supposed to be the saviour this year.”

@c2645sg – Ah, you & your imagination, bless.

You must remember how wrong all your Valkyrie/Refinancing/Mercedes predictions were (to name just a few):

c2645sg Quotes:

18/02/22 - “Just wait til the Valkyrie recall hits the press.”

18/02/22 - “It's taking them 3 weeks to build one Valkyrie. That's 17 per year.”

15/05/22 - “24 cars in 5 months, means over 5 YEARS to build all 260 Valkyries. Unsure how anyone can question this.”

30/08/22 - “Can anyone imagine how difficult it will be to rollover the huge AML bond debt in 2024 now?”

29/06/23 - “Mercedes will be selling soon, 10% of the company, imagine what that will do to the share price….”

24/01/22 - “I have a photographic memory, I NEVER forget.”

[Wonka] “Come with me & you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. Take a look & you'll see, into your imagination” [/Wonka]

- - - - -

Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)

#Confused.com

c2645sg – 18/09/25 - Quote: “It'll be delisted from LSE if/when Stroll takes AML private. He might have no other option, he can't keeping asking for waivers as he is over the threshold of percentage ownership anyway, if he buys any more shares he must make an offer for the company.”

@c2645sg – Once again, you return to this scaremongering theme based on factual foundations of sand...

c2645sg – Quotes:

16/06/25 – “What happens if AML don't get that waiver? Stroll will have to bid for the company. Why are none of the rampers talking about that? Because their losses will be crystallised and they will never make their money back.”

02/06/25 – “How long will the recent cash raise last? And how does Stroll make the next one happen? Another waiver so he isn't forced to make a formal offer for the company. Which would be below your average and mean you'd never make your money back? ;)”

07/06/25 – “An extra 22 cars sales in May is not going to prevent a cash raise VERY SOON.. Which could force Stroll into buying AML outright.”

30/07/25 – “Stroll private takeover at 25p on the cards now.”

- - - - -

As there is a big difference between one shareholder being forced to make a bid & other shareholders being forced to sell.

The mandatory offer rule triggered by a holding reaching 30% (which Stroll got a waiver for) only allows a “Squeeze-out of the minority”, i.e. the last 10% of shareholders who do not want to sell, provided 90% of the remaining shareholder are willing to accept the offer, excluding the Stroll/Yew Tree (bidder) shares.

https://www.cliffordchance.com/content/dam/cliffordchance/PDF/takeover_guide.pdf

The other major shareholders (PIF/Lucid, Geely & Mercedes) all have seats on the AML Board.

Do you really think that AML raises cash without discussing this, or getting approval, at board level?

Agreeing waivers in advance saves everyone the time & money of Stroll making a formal offer that will ultimately be rejected by a significant percentage of the remaining shareholders, as they don’t need/want to sell (and certainly not at 25p).

- - - - -

c2645sg – 28/08/25 - “I check in here 2/3 times a day to correct the rampers so the neutral can hear both sides of the story.”

How does telling the ‘neutral’ a “Stroll private takeover at 25p on the cards now” count as both sides of the story?

Unless, one side of the story is the facts and the other side is nonsense? < Roll Eyes >

- - - - -

c2645sg – 04/07/25 – “I used to work in the city”

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOzp42L1EVdA7OhHMRCSUK2cPXSagn5U3PPiiqebCBWVLM1wvYCWGqQK3EL9oHOpw2FABmck5OIOusB6qb_ksuvI-heFmbGJ1uY926AFnGNOl4sXCIqzV0mFf14VqSGbmnIUdntACoTCnCwuJkB0pbZiQ=w1153-h954-s-no-gm?authuser=0

- - - - -

Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)

@Daviddavid – Whilst you are correct that this is supposed to be an LSE Share Chat for AML.

Unfortunately, this site is now a Troll invested mess, where any sensible debate is drowned out by nonsense.

This will be my 20th post on here since 5th May 2025, which is over three months ago. (See ‘PS’ link below.)

Yet, in that same timeline, just how many multiple posts has @c2645sg made containing false claims about AML?

- AML did not raise £125m in May25, they only raised £52.5m.

- AML did not sell their F1 stake in May25, it was approved & pending at that point, now due to take place in Q3 2025.

- AML have not used up £160m of their £170m RCF (leaving only £10m), as their RCF had £104.1m available @ 30/06/25.

- AML reported 328 cars for the USA in Q2 2025 vs. @c2645sg SHOUTING AML were “not selling a SINGLE CAR to the US”.

And that is before @c2645sg’s latest round of vivid imagination (already posted twice):

c2645sg – 22/08/25 – Quote: “AML's 2nd factory will be going soon, they will have NO CHOICE. Imagine what that RNS will do to the share price.”

As here are just two examples of @c2645sg’s previous posts, where the reality was very different to their imagination:

c2645sg – Quotes:

30/08/22 - “Can anyone imagine how difficult it will be to rollover the huge AML bond debt in 2024 now?”

29/06/23 – “Mercedes will be selling soon, 10% of the company, imagine what that will do to the share price….”

The facts were AML rolled over their bonds with no difficulties & Mercedes have not sold their AML shares. < Roll Eyes >

@Daviddavid – Have you complained to the LSE Chat Moderators about those posting false information?

Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)

PS

Quote: “Long writings so early in morning.”

@TheAnswerIsNo AKA @c2645sg – Oh bless, thought you of all people would understand how ‘copy & paste’ worked. ;-)

https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9C0C5259-0E41-4761-BB88-F0306A9BED25

Plus, hilarious use of ‘obsessed’ by someone without AML shares who posts more on here than those with AML shares.

Part 3

@HereKittyKitty & @Mukiwa – By now, you have probably spotted a pattern of @c2645sg’s constant contradictions.

Their apparent split personality resembles a team of people who don’t talk to each other, let allow share notes. ;-)

- - - - -

#MakeYourMindUpTime

c2645sg - Quotes:

24/01/22 - “I have a photographic memory, I NEVER forget.”

11/06/21 - “Nice, hit my limit order of 1910.”

26/11/24 - “Invested at £19, are you mental? … So dumb it hurts.”

11/03/25 - “You think I would hold on to my £19 shares…? You're mental…”

- - - - -

Afterall, how can one person say they are buying £19 shares & then that same person strongly deny they bought them?

Before asking why would they hold on the £19 shares that did, or did not buy, depending on when you ask!

Honestly, it’s not my fault that @c2645sg can’t keep their own story straight, is it? < Roll Eyes >

- - - - -

Which reminds me of another AML poster who also struggles to keep their own story straight...

Swiss Tony – Quotes:

28/09/22 - “I am not short… I sold my rights though.”

12/10/22 - “…I was similar to you in that I didn't see it dropping this far…”

09/11/22 - “I called it correctly from £23 down to £1. It's all there in the posts for all to see.”

Because, in order to have the option to buy into the 4:1 RI share in Sep.22, you would need to still be holding AML.

But why would you hold shares you predicted dropping to £1, or not dropping that far, depending on what day you ask?

- - - - -

Funny how @Swiss Tony quoted the same wrong Cash Raise number as @c2645sg (£125m, when it was £52.5m). ;-)

Swiss Tony – 23/06/25 - “9th May AML raised 125m and burning through 1.25m-1.5m per day. So 100 days absolute tops, and we're 7 weeks deep. 4/5 weeks of cash left.”

[Harry Hill] “What were the chances of that happening, eh?” [/Harry Hill] ;-)

- - - - -

@HereKittyKitty & @Mukiwa – Hope this shows that, despite their multiple claims, @c2645sg does not have a track record of calling the AML SP all the way down from £20+ and has also provided no evidence they “Sold out at the top”.

I’ve also covered all this many times before, for example:

https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.asp?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&page=2&thread=16EB0448-6072-4769-97F8-D38F96A7BA54

- - - - -

Have a nice day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)

Part 2

@c2645sg even ignored their own ‘get out’ advice, because they were an unhappy shareholder two weeks later.

c2645sg - Quotes:

- 04/11/21 - “This jump is the best chance to get out now before the shizzle hits the fan.”

- 18/11/21 - “I am an unhappy shareholder. The share price has dropped from £23 to £16 this year”

Why complain about the SP dropping if you had called the top & sold, as you would not be a shareholder?

Again, @c2645sg didn’t say they had sold their Jun.21 £19.10 shares before this Dec.21 post.

- - - - -

c2645sg - 17/12/21 - “We should all put limit orders in for £11.25 and £10.75. Who's game? If enough people did it, we'd pretty much secure that price.”

How does @c2645sg encouraging others to buy AML count as being negative or slating the company?

Surely, you would only suggest investing in AML at £10/11 if there was a way of making profit from that entry point?

- - - - -

c2645sg – 09/01/22 – “I'd probably sell up if Moers leaves.”

So, still holding AML two months after their own ‘get out’ advice & almost a year after AML’s SP ‘top’ of £22 in Feb.21.

Again, @c2645sg didn’t say they had sold their Jun.21 £19.10 shares before this Jan.22 post.

- - - - -

@HereKittyKitty & @Mukiwa – Obviously, 2022 was a HUGE year for AML Shareholders with the 4:1 RI in Sept.

c2645sg - Quotes:

– 16/06/25 – “I have been accurate all the way down from £20 to 80p”

– 01/09/22 – “5 billions (for the pedant) of new shares could be created and announced on Monday.”

- - - - -

Let’s ignore the ‘accuracy’ of @c2645sg’s RI prediction (they called 5,000,000,000 vs. 583,823,488 actual).

Instead, let’s focus on any claim of being accurate ‘all the way down’ that ignores the Sep.22 to Jul.23 timeline.

Where was @c2645sg’s advice to go ‘all in’ with the 4:1 RI @£1.03, or to “BUY! BUY! BUY!” @89p in Nov.22?

Instead, all we got was yet another inaccurate prediction:

c2645sg – 13/10/22 – “Priced for its 8th bankruptcy now.”

- - - - -

The rise to AML’s MCap peak in Jul.23, when the SP topped out at £3.96, transformed my AML holding completely.

Yet @c2645sg still refuses to point out any errors in my Michael de Picciotto AML average calculations, explaining this:

https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9FBFFE45-270E-49F7-B2E1-34BD119991A4

End of Part 2

HereKittyKitty – 01/08/25 – Quote: “gloating you called it”

Mukiwa - 06/08/25 – “you’ve supposedly called it down from £20”

- - - - -

@HereKittyKitty & @Mukiwa - The sad truth is that, despite their multiple claims, @c2645sg did not call the AML SP.

The fact they have to resort to using a sock puppet to say ‘how great they are’ sums it all up really. < Roll Eyes >

TheAnswerIsNo – 23/08/25 - “He always being right.”

https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9C0C5259-0E41-4761-BB88-F0306A9BED25

- - - - -

#Self-DelusionStrikesAgain

c2645sg – Quotes:

24/01/22 - “I have a photographic memory, I NEVER forget.”

23/06/22 - “Imagine filtering the one person who has called it right from £22...”

14/05/25 - “Thor, do you HONESTLY think I kept those shares then slated AML all the way down?”

15/05/25 - “Not content at me calling AML down from £19 to 80p”

19/05/25 - “Do you think I have been negative all the way down from £20 while holding AML and losing money?”

16/06/25 - “I have been accurate all the way down from £20 to 80p”

29/07/25 – “To neutrals without bias, I am correct, because I have called it all the way down since the £20 days.”

30/07/25 – “Seems to have gone quiet, I wonder why? Sold out at the top, or humble pie for breakfast.”

- - - - -

Unfortunately, @c2645sg’s memory of facts falls significantly below what counts as ‘photographic’. ;-)

c2645sg – 11/06/21 – Quotes:

09:17 - “Even I topped up over £22, but quickly sold again when I realised what was going on.”

11:11 - “Doyezee, I saved myself 13% by selling.”

13:12 - “Nice, hit my limit order of 1910. Keeping some in reserve in case it goes lower.”

The phrase “Keeping some in reserve in case it goes lower” isn’t calling the top of the SP, or being negative.

It means waiting to buy more shares if the SP drops further, in the expectation the SP will rise again.

Afterall, why sell £22+ shares, & re-buy at £19.10, unless you thought you’d make more profit from £19?

Because, if you called this all the way down, you would have sold at £22 & bought back at 80p.

- - - - -

c2645sg – 19/07/21 - “I am down a fair chunk today”

How does this mean anything other than your AML shares are worth less than you paid for them?

Note - At no point between their Jun.21 £19.10 buy & the post above did @c2645sg say they’d sold AML.

- - - - -

End of Part 1

C2645sg – 05/08/25 – “Morals of a diseased alleycat”

c2645sg – 01/11/22 - “Observe which side resorts to the most vociferous name-calling and you are likely to have identified the side with the weaker argument (and they know it!)”

@c2645sg – Thanks for confirming you have the weaker argument. ;-)

- - -

c2645sg – 05/08/25 – “AML have been drawing cash from this credit agreement over the last year, and now they have borrowed 160m of the 170m, AS I STATED...

2. Included within loans and other borrowings is the balance drawn on the Group's £170.0m RCF. At 30 June 2025 £60.0m of the £170.0m RCF was drawn down in cash (30 June 2024: £90.0m of £170.0m facility, 31 December 2024: £10.0m of £170.0m facility). £5.9m of the RCF has been reserved for the issuance of letters of credit and guarantees (30 June 2024: £5.9m of the revolving credit facility was reserved; 31 December 2024: £5.9m was reserved).”

- - - - -

@c2645sg – You “worked in the city”, but don’t know brackets are used for prior year comparisons? < Roll Eyes >

AML’s Available Facilities at a point in time = RCF, less cash drawn down, less reserved:

30/06/24 = £170m – £90m - £5.9m = £74.1m

31/12/24 = £170m - £10m - £5.9m = £154.1m

30/06/25 = £170m – £60m – £5.9m = £104.1m Available

- - - - -

c2645sg – 05/08/25 – “Now the RCF is almost fully drawn, there can be no more”

It is not ‘almost fully drawn’, there was £104.1m available on 30/06/25, as per AML’s 2025 H1 accounts.

Simply SHOUTING doesn’t make your adding up of 60 + 10 + 90 = 160 nonsense correct.

- - - - -

@c2645sg – You “worked in the city”, but don’t know that the difference between cash drawn in Jun. & Dec.24 was due to AML paying off the RCF with one of the very cash raises you bang on about? < Shakes Head >

RNS - 27/11/24 – “The net proceeds from the Share Offering.... are expected to... repay the borrowings under its existing super senior revolving credit facility...”

https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AML/result-of-equity-issue-ds4mxytf765nwfq.html

- - - - -

c2645sg – 04/07/25 – “I used to work in the city”

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOzp42L1EVdA7OhHMRCSUK2cPXSagn5U3PPiiqebCBWVLM1wvYCWGqQK3EL9oHOpw2FABmck5OIOusB6qb_ksuvI-heFmbGJ1uY926AFnGNOl4sXCIqzV0mFf14VqSGbmnIUdntACoTCnCwuJkB0pbZiQ=w1153-h954-s-no-gm?authuser=0

;-)

- - - - -

End of Part 1

Part 2 – Cash Raise vs. F1 Stake Sale

c2645sg – 04/08/25 – “They are selling the f1 team stake... Raising cash is raising cash, lots of ways to do it.”

@c2645sg – You are really clutching at straws if you’re now claiming the F1 stake sale in Q3 was the cash raise you were previously referring to, as you had already (incorrectly) counted that...

c2645sg – Quotes:

14/05/25 – “AML owned a small stake in Aston F1 team. They sold it to raise cash to keep the lights on”

26/06/25 – “£125m raise in late April/early May will be running short now. cash raise coming with Q2 results?”

05/07/25 – “AML raise £125m months ago, and they are burning through a minimum of 1.25m per day. Running on fumes right now.”

10/07/25 – “AML raised £125m on 9th May. They are burning through a minimum of £1.25m per day. Probably more due to not selling a SINGLE CAR to the US in Q2, which obviously is 3 months. That's a MAXIMUM of 100 days. We're on day 62 already. Not long until the next cash raise.”

29/07/25 – “They raised £125m in cash, and are burning through 1.25m per day, so that cash is pretty much gone. It was raised on the 9th May, and at that rate, only lasts 100 days. 100 days are just about up.”

- - - - -

c2645sg – 04/08/25 – “Looking forward to your comprehensive answer, which won't come.”

@c2645sg – My comprehensive answer, on 21/07/25, showed your repeatedly quoted £125m CR figure was wrong (AML only raised £52.5m) & the F1 stake sale was still pending.

https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=83614E51-8993-4892-8CD0-42C7B3E573A0

As AML had a daily cash burn figure of £2.2m a day in Q2 & only raised £52m in May, this also confirms your multiple cash flow ‘calculations’ showing AML running out of cash/running on fumes/etc. & requiring a cash raise “with Q2 results/not long/just about up/etc.” were nonsense too.

- - - - -

c2645sg – 10/07/25 – “Probably more due to not selling a SINGLE CAR to the US in Q2”

@c2645sg – SHOUTING there wouldn’t be a single US car in Q2 vs. 328 actual (just under the Q2 2024 US figure & H1 2025 was very slightly up on H1 24, despite the negative impact of Trump’s tariffs).

- - - - -

c2645sg – 30/07/25 – “Can't you read? Or just too lazy to bother?”

c2645sg – 04/08/25 – “UK sales were down 11% Year to date until July, now they are level, proof of loading dealers in July to hit targets.”

@c2645sg – Complaining about others, whilst demonstrating an inability to read yourself? ;-)

AML’s H1 accounts only cover sales to 30/06/25, nothing to do with July & the ‘UK’ sales figures (202 Q2 & 378 H1) are clearly marked with a reference number to show they are for the UK & South Africa combined (Page 2):

https://www.astonmartin.com/-/media/corporate-new/documents/h1-results-2025/aston-martin-lagonda-h1-2025-results.pdf?rev=c4b0893484344ea

c2645sg – 04/08/25 – quote: “berrin, if you think my post is nonsense, it will be easy to prove me wrong, so go on then. prove to me aml are not selling the stake in the f1 team, and they have borrowed 160m of the 170m available to them on the expensive revolving credit facility... looking forward to your comprehensive answer, which won't come. you'll quote some piddling law to avoid answering, again.”

@berrin – please, allow me to reply on your behalf...

@c2645sg – as you well know, brandolini's law simply states:

“the amount of energy needed to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/brandolini%27s_law

- - - - -

part 1 – rcf (revolving credit facility)

@c2645sg – just a few days ago you were posting the same numbers that @berrin quoted...

c2645sg – quotes:

30/07/25 – “included within loans and other borrowings is the balance drawn on the group's £170.0m rcf. at 30 june 2025 £60.0m of the £170.0m rcf was drawn down in cash... £5.9m of the rcf has been reserved for the issuance of letters of credit and guarantees”

30/07/25 – “they spunked another 60m on the company credit card... to survive.”

and your posts above tie back to the reality of aml’s h1 accounts at 30/06/25, where rcf = £170m less £60m (drawn down), less £5.9m (reserved) = “available facilities” of £104.1m.

- - - - -

@c2645sg - however, since then, you have clearly been posting nonsense...

c2645sg – quotes:

30/07/25 – “so now they have maxed out the rcf, nowhere else to go.”

30/07/25 – “so very little cash left and no more borrowing left on the rcf. cash raise coming soon.”

30/07/25 – “aml have now used £160m of the £170m revolving credit facility”

02/08/25 – “aml have now used £160m of the £170m revolving credit facility”

04/08/25 – “taken out 160m of the 170m revolving credit facility to avoid a raise.”

- - - - -

@c2645sg – so, why have you now added an extra £100m to the £60m draw down number you first (correctly) quoted?

at 30/06/25, aml still had £104m available on their £170m rcf, which does not tie back to your claims of “maxed out” or “no more borrowing left on the rcf”, does it?

which qualifies as posting nonsense.

- - - - -

end of part 1

#DoubleStandardsAgain

c2645sg – Quotes:

16/06/25 – “Are you dodging the question”

25/06/25 – SWC.PL - “STOP DEFLECTING.

10/07/25 – “AML raised £125m on 9th May. They are burning through a minimum of £1.25m per day. Probably more due to not selling a SINGLE CAR to the US in Q2, which obviously is 3 months. That's a MAXIMUM of 100 days. We're on day 62 already. Not long until the next cash raise.”

17/07/25 – “Support doesn't last when a company runs out of cash. £125m raised on May 9th, burning through 1.25m per day, so a maximum of 100 days are almost up.”

23/07/25 – “Cash raise coming soon, they will be running on fumes by now.”

25/07/25 – “How much cash is left Rossa?”

28/07/25 – “How much cash do you think AML have left Kitty? Give us your guess so we can see if you know how a balance sheet works.”

28/07/25 – “How much cash do you think AML have left Mukiwa? Show us all how smart you are, or run away, your choice son.”

28/07/25 – “What’s your guess at how much cash is left? Take a stab, tell us. Or run away and hide.”

28/07/25 – “I wonder how much cash they have left after one of the worst Quarters in theirs history”

- - - - -

@c2645sg – In your last post, why exactly are you wondering how much cash AML have left at the end of H1?

Why ask other posters to provide an exact figure in advance, if you don’t already know it yourself?

Obviously, I’m ignoring the fact that you repeatedly posted the wrong 9th May cash raise figure (it was £52.5m, not £125m).

- - - - -

c2645sg – 04/07/25 – Quote: – “I used to work in the city”

Doing what exactly?

As you also have a history of posting detailed, but meaningless, cash flow calculation predictions that turn out wrong.

In 2024, you repeatedly said that ‘H1 cash left, minus H2 capital and H2 interest’ would leave AML “£40m short, minimum”.

Are there many people who “work in the city” who exclude revenue from their cash flow calculations? < Roll Eyes >

- - - - -

So, how much cash did AML have left at the end of H1 @c2645sg?

Are you going to answer the question? Dodge the question? Deflect? Or run away and hide? Your choice. ;-)

- - - - -

As always, so much nonsense, so little time.

Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)

Latest Share Chat

Member Info for AML_007

Followers

Following

Posts (Last 30 Days)

Posts (All Time)

Last Post

Member Since

Share Chat Post Distribution (Last 30 Days)

Activity Log (Last 30 Days)

Latest Share Chat

Member Info for AML_007

Followers

Following

Posts (Last 30 Days)

Posts (All Time)

Last Post

Member Since

Share Chat Post Distribution (Last 30 Days)

Activity Log (Last 30 Days)

Please enter at least 2 characters

No results found

Search results

Recently viewed

Trending