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TheAnswerIsNo – 12/07/25 - “Gettings life AML007, you write to much.... And lost too much with your naive ideas haha!”
TheAnswerIsNo - 04/10/24 – Quote: “I maded £771000… I got Ferrari with my profit”
@TheAnswerIsNo – Any evidence for your (false) claim that I lost money, or for your claim you made £771k?
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Perhaps you will brave enough for my Michael de Picciotto AML average challenge, that @c2645sg runs away from?
I’ve provided analysis of publicly available transactions showing how de Picciotto made money from AML:
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9FBFFE45-270E-49F7-B2E1-34BD119991A4
The challenge – If you can find anything wrong with my de Picciotto’s AML average calculations, please point it out.
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Finally, why did you quote the same wrong £125m cash raised number as @c2645sg, when it was actually £52.5m?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMDlNOIrSUy9edBz246PdvQ8YB3gQR0fZDGIIbQRfrVJjpvQXmEONdS9MZ4l9ftOqamXH2FNPA786XQvNBcnwSNWW2RkAECZMQXjBQsV2jhKvbx1ttGA9pSz8N2Pi2CuC-xTixM5XH_dtdjzUtWGjmjFA=w1072-h700-s-no-gm?authuser=0
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Alternatively...
@c2645sg – How many people do you think you are actually fooling with your pitiful sock puppet? < Roll Eyes >
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9C0C5259-0E41-4761-BB88-F0306A9BED25
Perhaps you are the one who really should try “Gettings life”. ;-)
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
Part 2:
c2645sg – 11/07/25 – “Quotes”:
“nitpicks semantics over fundamentals” – Given that you are the one linking the ‘£125m raised’ with a daily cash burn rate to indicate the timing of a cash raise, I think the fact you didn’t use the correct cash raised figure counts as a pretty basic fundamental. Especially, in the context of you belittling another poster for not reading the RNS properly, which you clearly didn’t.
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“Cash raise coming soon.” – Again, the question isn’t whether there will be a CR, but, given your logic and CR prediction calculations, why wasn’t there a cash raise 20 days ago? As AML only raised £52.5m, not £125m, and by your logic/calculations this must have run out by now (your numbers, not mine).
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“And they need 2bn for electrification, their own words.”
@c2645sg – Imagine filtering the person who explains the stuff that you clearly don’t understand. ;-)
As I covered all this just a few months ago & yet you still keep getting it wrong.
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AML_007 - 13/03/25 – Quote:
“c2645sg – 12/03/25 – “AML need 2bn for electrification, where is that going to come from? You guessed it, cash raises.”
@c2645sg – Did you even bother to read AML’s 2024 report? < Roll Eyes >
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AML/preliminary-results-year-ended-31-december-2024-41xusxl335n87jw.html
AML Quote – “Expect to invest: c. £2bn over FY 2023-2027 in long-term growth and transition to electrification”
So, it is not £2bn in the future, it is approx. £400m a year, for 5 years, which started back in 2023.
AML’s annual report also said: 2024 – “Broadly flat capital expenditure of £401m” / “FY 2023 : £397m” / 2025 Outlook – “Capital investment in new product developments and technology access fees to support our growth strategy is expected to be c. £400m.”
So, AML have already spent £0.8bn of the £2bn & expect to cover the next £0.4bn from operational income, which means they ‘only’ need to find £0.8bn in 2026 & 27 to reach that £2bn target (DYOR).
Now you can certainly debate how much of the £0.8bn spent to date has been via CRs or extra debt.
But to say ‘AML need 2bn for electrification’ is, in your own words, either a bare face lie, evidence of someone who is financially illiterate, or the work of a paid poster. Which is it? ;-) ”
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As always, so much nonsense and so little time to deal with it all.
Have a good weekend everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
C2645sg – 09/07/25 – Quote: “At least I don't lie”
@c2645sg – Based on that last post it would appear that you do, unless you can prove it is true?
Anyway, you have provided yet another example of ‘Brandolini’s Law’ in action...
Part 1:
c2645sg – 11/07/25 – “Quotes”:
“The poster who bought at the very bottom” – Please point out where I claimed that?
I said 75% of my AML shareholding was at the Sep.22 £1.03 RI price, not the Nov.22 89p bottom.
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“sold at the very top” – Again, when did I claim to have sold at the very top?
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“but didn't tell anyone” – [ Panto ] “Oh yes, I did! [ / Panto ]
And not only did I tell everyone I was selling at the time, I provided evidence of this too.
E.g. On 06/05/25, I provided this link to one of the two “I’m selling” posts:
08/07/23 – “Which seemed like a good excuse to bank some profit selling in the £3.50s (I missed the £3.60s). I still have a number of AML shares up my sleeve for the future and let’s see what happens.”
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=885E3598-4A26-4BF6-9860-E999C3B91EFA
@c2645sg – Funny how, despite repeated requests, you’ve never shared your ‘I’m selling posts’.
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“Made huge profits” – Sorry, I know it is a recurring theme here, but please point out where I claimed to have made HUGE profits? All I’ve ever said is that I made a profit, whereas, ‘huge’ is a relative term I haven’t used, as de Picciotto certainly made more than me.
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“If AML is such a great investment, why did he sell?” – Is this really all you have got? I mean really?
Because that is the text book definition of an investment, isn’t it? < Shakes Head >
[ Dictionary ] - ‘Investment’ – Noun – “The action or process of investing money for profit.”
So, I sold AML to make a profit! < Roll Eyes >
On 05/05/25, I also explained that I sold enough AML shares to make the remaining shares I hold ‘free’.
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=595B7AA7-9A5A-4A67-82AC-3FAF9D71335B
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“...was selling at the top, which ultimately means he agreed with me. ;)” – You never told people to sell in Jul.23, did you? So, how on earth can you now claim I was agreeing with you?
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“You couldn't make it up.” – Well, you never seem to have a problem making things up about my posts or my investment, do you? Perhaps if you actually read what I wrote, you wouldn’t be so confused. ;-)
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End of Part 1
Strange, not only is the same thing being posted again, but it is the same WRONG thing. < Roll Eyes >
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMDlNOIrSUy9edBz246PdvQ8YB3gQR0fZDGIIbQRfrVJjpvQXmEONdS9MZ4l9ftOqamXH2FNPA786XQvNBcnwSNWW2RkAECZMQXjBQsV2jhKvbx1ttGA9pSz8N2Pi2CuC-xTixM5XH_dtdjzUtWGjmjFA=w1072-h700-s-no-gm?authuser=0
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@c2645sg – How many times have you said that AML raised £125m?
c2645sg – 10/07/25 – Quote: “AML raised £125m on 9th May. They are burning through a minimum of £1.25m per day. Probably more due to not selling a SINGLE CAR to the US in Q2, which obviously is 3 months. That's a MAXIMUM of 100 days. We're on day 62 already. Not long until the next cash raise.”
c2645sg – 14/05/25 – Quote: “AML owned a small stake in Aston F1 team. They sold it to raise cash to keep the lights on, how is that so difficult to understand? It's written clearly in the RNS.”
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Fact #1 – AML raised £52.5m (75m shares @ 70p) on 9th May, not £125m.
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AML/result-of-general-meeting-and-issue-of-equity-zrs2hdv4bmayvo9.html
Fact #2 – AML’s sale of their AMF1 is still a proposal, as the transaction has not been concluded yet.
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AML/proposed-investment-by-yew-tree-consortium-hu2dldzy23klpai.html
“In addition, given the long-term sponsorship agreement now in place, the Company is today announcing its proposal to sell its investment in the Aston Martin F1® Team, AMR GP Holdings Ltd ("AMR GP"). It is expected that a premium to the current book value of the investment can be realised in any such sale, with a transaction expected to conclude later this year.”
@c2645sg - How is that so difficult to understand? It's written clearly in the RNS. ;-)
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@c2645sg – Using your maths, £52.5m @ £1.25m a day = 42 days & quote “We're on day 62 already”.
So, if (and it is a big IF) your cash raise predictions are correct, why didn’t a CR happen 20 days ago?
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c2645sg – 14/12/22 - “When you state things then fail to provide evidence, you lose all credibility… That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
@c2645sg – Based on your own standards, where is your evidence for Customer Deposits = £200m?
c2645sg – 14/05/25 – “Why did they raise 125m if liquidity was fine at 400 mill? Because half of that are customer deposits”
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c2645sg – 09/07/25 – Quote: “At least I don't lie”
@c2645sg – So, you consider repeatedly saying AML raised £125m as telling the truth?
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
@c2645sg has a long track record of copying & pasting the same thing over and over again. A recent example is these four identical posts made within the space of four hours:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNsFg3-B2eJdy0khr8rCiStM_-mwpNbPAMwUCp6ic2Y7_yQ5_BxObCvnbCoioeMBxOCsmXdmfuyl_32zXrxS9nmUAShOTJFKNnExIkZK9YbguhlJudeKa2CdlLZLhHRKKuDo5jj0_nWC4SlfG0hOybkAw=w527-h947-s-no-gm?authuser=0
Whereas, prior to 20/01/25, @TheAnswerIsNo had never once replicated one of @c2645sg’s entire posts exactly, in their 3+ years / 700+ post history on here. See 3 x Jan.25 screenshots below:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczM1k9PbE47BCZKNYuVuOr_fCsMyVFNA6HOilNkIGm89uJlhl3s7m6MLPfio7wO9o5y-2ehIAeWmqBdqezhYTsaPfzav7zhBffKEWQYfyu9uN_xSUl3L0A3LVQI7ZyH0pdAYdRyHwEQP789q6xKr84YhSA=w642-h701-s-no-gm?authuser=0
Do Your Own Research to decide which option to believe. Is it Option #1 - @TAIN decided this particular post deserved to be repeated without giving any credit to @c2645sg? Or is it Option #2 - @c2645sg copied & pasted as usual, while still logged in as their sock-puppet @TAIN?
Similarly, did @TAIN copying & pasting a few other posts after 20/01/25 ‘prove’ Option #1? Or could it still be Option #2, with @c2645sg trying to belatedly cover their tracks? Again, DYOR.
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@Everyone else - Feel free to copy the screenshot link if you think it will come in handy in the future. ;-)
However, I’m now going to keep off this chat for a while, but will hopefully catch up again in June.
Until then, take care, cheers, Paul. :)
C2645sg – 02/05/25 – “Just noticed the title of this thread, has someone posted a link to their trades eventually?”
@c2645sg – Pretending you couldn’t see my previous two posts would work so much better if only you hadn’t actually been replying directly to my other posts recently. #MoreSchoolboyErrors ;-)
c2645sg – 23/04/25 – “I guess you're not sharing a screen shot”.
c2645sg – 29/04/25 – “My point is that you were stupid enough to buy shares at £20.”
As you might say, I guess you’re not proving de Picciotto didn’t make a profit selling at £3.35, despite buying shares at £18? (Where all the transactions are in the public domain.) < Roll Eyes >
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TinyPie2 - 02/05/25 – “Keep up the good work mate.”
@TinyPie2 – My apologies, but I’ll be taking a break from posting shortly. The sheer volume of lies & hypocrisy now means it is hardly sport pointing it out, it is more like shooting fish in a barrel. ;-)
No doubt they will huff & puff, but the fact they refuse to accept the simple challenge of proving my de Picciotto maths wrong shows they know it was possible to make money from AML the way I did.
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9FBFFE45-270E-49F7-B2E1-34BD119991A4
They also missed the big clue in this statement: “...at the time I sold AML shares in 2023, the shares I sold were worth more than I’d paid for all my AML shares...”. The key word being ‘all’, meaning my AML average for the shares bought between Aug.20 and Jun.23, that I still hold, is £0 (zero)!
And here is one of my selling posts, which also highlighted my tracking of AML’s MCap.
08/07/23 – “Which seemed like a good excuse to bank some profit selling in the £3.50s (I missed the £3.60s). I still have a number of AML shares up my sleeve for the future and let’s see what happens.”
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=885E3598-4A26-4BF6-9860-E999C3B91EFA
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@TinyPie2 – Next time @c2645sg changes the subject back to me, perhaps you would be so kind to ask them to provide a link to their “I’m selling AML” posts. After all, their 2021 posting history stated they were both ‘down’ & ‘unhappy’, before suggesting ‘we all’ should buy AML in Dec.21. #NotBangOn ;-)
c2645sg Quotes:
11/06/21 –“Nice, hit my limit order of 1910. Keeping some in reserve in case it goes lower.”
19/07/21 - “I am down a fair chunk today”
18/11/21 - “I am an unhappy shareholder. The share price has dropped from £23 to £16 this year”
17/12/21 - “We should all put limit orders in for £11.25 and £10.75. Who's game? If enough people did it, we'd pretty much secure that price.”
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One last post from me for a while coming up...
C2645sg – 01/05/25 – Quote: “Be careful who you listen to folks”
@c2645sg – If only you listened to yourself occasionally. < Roll Eyes >
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c2645sg – 06/07/23 – “The more someone posts on here, the more desperate they are.”
@c2645sg – Who has posted more than you in the last 30 days (145 posts), or even just on Wed. & Thurs. (52 posts)? Which, by your own words, makes you the most desperate ‘someone’ on here. ;-)
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c2645sg – 21/02/25 – “You don't own any AML shares and don't plan to, but are on here stating the obvious to complete strangers? Sounds like you need to get out more.”
@c2645sg - You don’t own any AML shares (but still refuse to say when you sold them) and you don’t plan to (given you are SHOUTING that AML is heading for liquidation), but you on here stating the obvious (posting data from the Q1 RNS, a public document) to complete strangers (well, apart from your sock-puppets)? Sounds like you need to get out more! ;-)
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c2645sg – 29/04/25 - “Let's all believe whatever someone claims on the internet, haha.”
@c2645sg – Apparently, in the midst of your recent posting frenzy, you missed my last reply to you. ;-)
AML_007 – 30/04/25 – “I have shown how de Picciotto made money, which is not a claim, it is a matter of public record, so no screen shot required. If I’m wrong, why not simply point out the error in my maths for all to see? Then there would be no doubt about whose claims on the internet should be believed, would there?”
@c2645sg – Are you going to actually prove who should be believed, or show you can’t by changing the subject again, or filling the chat with so many posts, this simple challenge moves out of sight (again)?
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Have a good day everyone and enjoy the Bank Holiday weekend, cheers, Paul. :)
C2645sg – 29/04/25 – “If you can't work out how to post a screenshot, what chance have you got of making money in the markets?”
@c2645sg – Oh bless, you are still confusing the difference between ability & willingness. ;-)
Given the fact that you’ve never posted a screenshot of your AML holdings, does that mean you have no chance of making money in the markets? Or are you simply unwilling, rather than unable? ;-)
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@Everyone Else - Just for fun, please let me know if you can see this collection of LSE Chat screen shots.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNsFg3-B2eJdy0khr8rCiStM_-mwpNbPAMwUCp6ic2Y7_yQ5_BxObCvnbCoioeMBxOCsmXdmfuyl_32zXrxS9nmUAShOTJFKNnExIkZK9YbguhlJudeKa2CdlLZLhHRKKuDo5jj0_nWC4SlfG0hOybkAw=w527-h947-s-no-gm?authuser=0
Thanks, Paul. :)
C2645sg – 29/04/25 - “Funny how 007 used to post EVERY SINGLE SHARE PURCHASE... But then never told a soul about any of the buying lower down. I wonder why?”
@c2645sg – You know I stopped posting details due to your hypocrisy, expecting others to do things you’re not prepared to do yourself. E.g. Why not share a screen shot of all your AML dealings first?
Here is just one of many examples where I said I was still buying lower down.
AML_007 – 25/03/23 - “I stopped posting details on here. Instead, I wrote things like this: “I’m also still here and topping up every now and then too (as funds allow).” A 100% truthful statement that deliberately didn’t include two things: - Total number of shares I bought. - The price I paid for each of those shares. I also didn’t post what I did, or did not do, about the RI.”
Despite your photographic memory, you post a claim that I “never told a soul”, which is clearly a lie.
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c2645sg – 29/04/25 - “I remember guessing about 25k's worth up at £20 ish.”
Finally acknowledge you were only “guessing” simply confirms you don’t ‘know’ anything. You have also said that “Picciotto was buying millions of shares at £18/19” & that is a proven lie too.
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c2645sg – 29/04/25 - “Imagine how much you would have to invest at £1, (if your average is £19) to make money at £3.50.”
Imagine if you had actually paid attention in school when they were teaching maths. ;-)
AML_007 – 13/03/25 – “This resulted my holding having an approximate share allocation of 5% over £15, 20% under £15 (excluding RI) and 75% at £1.03!”
That quote allows you to reverse engineer my % holding before the RI, where approximately 19% of my AML shares cost over £15 & 81% cost under £15, which will not result in an average of £19, will it? Your use of the word “if” avoids your post being a lie, but it still counts as misleading ‘smoke & mirrors’.
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c2645sg – 29/04/25 - “Let's all believe whatever someone claims on the internet, haha.”
I have shown how de Picciotto made money, which is not a claim, it is a matter of public record, so no screen shot required. If I’m wrong, why not simply point out the error in my maths for all to see? Then there would be no doubt about whose claims on the internet should be believed, would there?
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c2645sg – “Don't worry Chesil, I have taken the day off to report back on Q1 results, I am here all day :)”
Good grief, get a life will you. I’m off for an early morning run & suggest you get out more too. ;-)
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
@c2645sg – Hilariously predictable when I highlight holes in your story, or your double standards. ;-)
However, as I’ve never denied buying AML shares at high prices (unlike you), what is your point?
I even confirmed this on 13/03, 23/04 & 24/04/25, when I said 5% of my AML shares cost over £15.
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We’ve covered this many times before with de Picciotto to highlight how your obsession with shares bought at high prices completely misses the point about how AML averages work.
c2645sg – 23/12/22 - Quote: “Picciotto was buying millions of shares at £18/19.”
#Fact - de Picciotto didn’t buy a single share at £19 & only bought 130,715 shares in the £18 range.
Picciotto has bought a total of 10.3m AML shares, sold 2.3m in 2023, leaving 8m share held in 2025. Those £18 shares were 1.3% of that 10.3m total, compared to 7.5m shares Picciotto bought in 2022 & 2024, at an average of £1.05, which accounts for 73.1% of their 10.3m total shares.
de Picciotto’s sold 2.3m shares in 2023 @ £3.35 for a £1m profit / 16% return, due to the influence on their AML average of the 5.8 million shares they bought in 2022 (£1.06 avg.), not the 130k shares at £18+.
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9FBFFE45-270E-49F7-B2E1-34BD119991A4
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AML/directorpdmr-shareholding-iz4zcp3rs2pk9bc.html
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@c2645sg – Remember you wrote this about people on here:
05/03/25 - “Either a fanboy, financially illiterate, or a paid poster. No-one could be this dumb.”
Now, if you still refuse to acknowledge the simple mathematics of de Picciotto’s AML average & admit he could sell shares for £3+ and still make a profit, despite buying shares at £18+, then this means that, by your own high judgement standards, you must be either financially illiterate, a paid poster or dumb*. (* Delete as appropriate.)
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AlphaBetaOne - 28/04/25 – “He was challenged on them, couldn't defend them, and so ran away.”
@AlphaBetaOne – Isn’t that exactly what you have done to every question I’ve asked you so far? ;-)
@c2645sg was wrong about Picciotto’s £19 shares & wrong about AML’s 2024 £1bn+ refinancing. (Just two examples that are matters of public record.) So, unsurprisingly, @c2645sg is wrong about my AML holding, as I’ve never posted my total number of shares, or how much I paid for them, or how many I sold. Without that, how can @c2645sg possibly know the truth about my AML shares? I have also provided enough clues as to why I’m not worried about AML, but thanks for your mis-placed concern.
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
PS - @chesil356 – Sorry that your nice Valhalla link was caught up in the middle of this nonsense.
C2645sg – 27/04/25 – “Remember this Larry?”
@c2645sg – Why can you remember what Stroll said in an interview dated 08/11/20, but not your own recommendation on 27/10/20 to buy AML & hold for 3 years / £30 per share, some 12 days earlier?
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TheAnswerIsNo – 24/04/25 – “You the most borings man in world.”
@c2645sg – Have you no pride? It was pitiful seeing you stage an argument with yourself last week, in a vain attempt to keep up the pretence that @TAIN isn’t your sock-puppet.
Look, people knew @TAIN was completely fake when they/you posted in perfect English by mistake.
TheAnswerIsNo - 08/03/23 – “Essentially 80% of the cash AML raised has already been vaporized. It’s a spectacular financial accomplishment and they really should name the next model the “Vanish”.”
But your schoolboy ‘copy & paste’ error on 20/01/25 gave the game away completely. Or did you really believe that some ‘random’ copy & paste posts afterwards had successfully covered your tracks?
It is sad enough that you (falsely) claim how great you are, but the fact your #1 fan telling everyone else how great you are (“You should have listened to c26 man with his wisdom and magic”) was you all along sets the bar for most desperate person on here pretty high. < Roll Eyes >
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Similarly, people know how multiple browser tabs work, so, technically, you’ve put nothing to bed.
c2645sg – 22/04/25 - "Look at that, alphabetaone and me posting at the same time. I hope that puts any notion of us being the same person, to bed."
AlphaBetaOne - 22/04/25 - "I had exactly the same thought! Perhaps we are the same person after all!!!”
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AlphaBetaOne - 23/04/25 - "Oh petal, it was *YOU* that boasted about making £57,000 on Archer. Not us. Were you desperate to impress?”
AlphaBetaOne - 31/03/25 - "But not as much as the catamaran I'll be spending my summer on. And THAT babe magnet has a LOT more room (& double cabins!).”
@AphaBetaOne - Oh petal, were you desperate to impress when you boasted about the catamaran? ;-)
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
@c2645sg – Oh dear, the total embodiment of ‘Brandolini’s Law’ in a single post. < Shakes Head >
“I guess you're not sharing a screen shot” – Obviously. Was my polite explanation not clear enough?
“proof of buying at the bottom and selling at the top” – When have I claimed to have done this?
“You invested heavily around £20” – 200 shares over £20 does not a heavy investment make. Didn’t saying only 5% of my AML shares cost over £15 help you understand the maths?
“didn't sell and held on to your shares” – Correct. Why is this so hard to understand?
“down to £1 where you topped up” – But it wasn’t a top up, was it? It was a 4:1 Rights Issue & that was the point at which I invested heavily (“all in”). Again, didn’t saying 75% of my AML shares were at £1.03 help you to understand the maths? This wasn’t a top up, it was a transformational event!
“Bottom line is you should have sold at £15 and bought back at £1” – What I could have done & what I did are clearly not the same thing. Yet, despite the ups & downs, the bottom line is I still made money.
Did you forget that you “topped up over £22, but quickly sold again” before buying back when you “hit my limit order of 1910”. Therefore, why isn’t the bottom line that you should have sold at £22 & bought back at £1, rather than buy back at £19? In which case, what it your point exactly?
“shut us all up for good” – Chance would be a fine thing. < Roll Eyes >
Although I did enjoy your small Freudian slip of writing “us all” rather than “me”. ;-)
“We know you are lying” – You don’t ‘know’ anything. Idle speculation doesn’t disguise the fact you don’t have access to my AML dealings in real life, so don’t ‘know’ one way, or the other. Do you?
“That's the thing with BB, people lie all the time” – That is certainly true in your case. Perhaps your rather unhealthy obsession with my shareholding is directly linked to the fact I point out your lies?
“What does it say about someone who doesn't even listen to their own plan” – Why don’t you tell us?
You didn’t listen to your own plan to hold AML until the SP was £30 (£1.50 post 20:1 consolidation)...
c2645sg – 27/10/20 – “More proof that long term thinking is better than short term. Forget wave theories. Buy a company that has this kind of potential and let it run. I won’t be selling ANY of the considerable amount I have for at least 3 years or anything under £1.50.”
Funny how it is OK for your plan to change, but not mine. Why is that? #DoubleStandardsYetAgain
“All that time to write a BS post” – I don’t think it is too hard to spot whose posts have more BS. ;-)
Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
PS - Last 30 days: @c2645sg = 115 posts, @AlphaBetaOne = 72 posts & @AML_007 = 13 posts.
C2645sg – 21/04/25 – Quote: “Until you post a screen-shot of your 'winnings' in AML, no-one should believe you. Go on, I dare you....”
@c2645sg – You dare me? How old are you? Why not double-dare me if you are so desperate? ;-)
I politely asked you to share your “I’m selling AML” posts, but you won’t. Should I have dared you?
Which sums up your double-standards, asking others for things you wouldn’t provide yourself.
c2645sg – 26/11/21 - “My shareholding is none of your business AML007”
c2645sg – 15/03/25 – “My trades are no-one else's business”
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@c2645sg – Despite this, I’ve still given you plenty of information in the past...
AML_007 – 13/08/24 - “I still hold AML shares and if you spent more time reading what I actually wrote and less time making things up, you wouldn’t have missed the BIG clue I gave you to the average price of those shares. ;-)”
And here is my post from the day before with the big clue in it…
AML_007 – 12/08/24 - “Without a doubt, there was a time when I was seriously underwater with AML, which I’ve never denied. The thing is, and this is the key part that you perpetually fail to understand, at the time I sold AML shares in 2023, the shares I sold were worth more than I’d paid for all my AML shares, which is known as making a profit.”
I even provided an analysis of my original AML portfolio as recently as a last month...
AML_007 – 13/03/25 - “As I too bought AML shares at high prices. However, whilst I missed the chance to sell at the initial 2021 peaks, thankfully, I was in a position to keep averaging down, before being able to go “all in” on the Sep.22 4:1 RI. This resulted my holding having an approximate share allocation of 5% over £15, 20% under £15 (excluding RI) and 75% at £1.03! Which, as per the Averages link in my last post, meant I could sell AML shares in the Jul.23 SP peaks for a profit. For me, it was those £1.03 shares that made it work.”
@c2645sg – That’s more information than you’ve provided & yet you still ask for more details?
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c2645sg – 21/04/25 – “Saying something online does not make it true.”
@c2645sg – We can certainly agree on that, because you constantly saying I didn’t make money from AML on line definitely doesn’t make it true in the real world, does it?
Given you claim to be on a crusade to save people from losing money on AML, you’d think you might actually be pleased to hear about someone who made money from AML, but apparently not.
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@c2645sg – I also agree with here on this too:
c2645sg – 06/07/23 – “The more someone posts on here, the more desperate they are.”
Last 30 days: @c2645sg = 97 posts, @AlphaBetaOne = 67 posts & @AML_007 = 12 posts.
@AlphaBetaOne – Perhaps you should redirect your “Too much time, not enough to do?!” post. ;-)
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul.
C2645sg – 21/04/25 – Quote: “who picks and chooses his data to try and tarnish others”
@c2645sg – Funny how you always drag out that old quote, but ignore all my posts since then, including my detailed explanation of how I made money from AML.
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=AML&share=Aston-Martin-Lagonda&thread=9FBFFE45-270E-49F7-B2E1-34BD119991A4
Especially, as you can’t claim to have forgotten about these posts, can you?
c2645sg – 24/01/22 – “I have a photographic memory, I NEVER forget.”
Which does makes it appear that you are cherry picking data yourself, doesn’t it? ;-)
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Just Checking #1 – So, you didn’t use the dictionary definition of bankruptcy, but instead described a hypothetical situation if AML didn’t raise cash? In which case, why post “RIP AML”? And wouldn't anyone reading your posts assume you had used the technical term bankruptcy correctly?
c2645sg – 12/05/22 – “The terrible thing for AML is needing credit in an environment where it's nearly impossible to obtain it, resulting in bankruptcy.”
c2645sg – 16/06/22 - “The danger is Moers has gone in conjunction with Mercedes, which could mean Merc have seen bankruptcy approaching and are the sellers?”
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Just Checking #2 – So, your forecast for annual sales, based on pro-rating AML’s published sales figures, weren’t predicting the sales in AML’s accounts, but the ‘real/retail’ sales figures that AML don’t publish? In which case, why have you never mentioned this before?
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Just Checking #3 – “called perfectly every single time” – So, your Equity Cash Raise prediction was a perfect call for a £135m Private Debt Placing?
c2645sg – 08/05/24 – “Cash raise will be under £1 for sure now, probably around 50p depending on how much they need.”
02/08/24 - https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AML/announcement-of-successful-private-debt-placing-hshq99jpjyjeiyw.html
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@AlphaBetaOne – Pity you are not flattered enough to answer any questions. ;-)
However, at least if you are a big believer in facts, and firmly against BS, you will agree that the following post did not contain any facts. As the £1bn+ refinancing didn’t include a cash raise, a debt for equity swap or any shareholder dilution, so it must have been BS, right?
c2645sg – 21/02/24 - “AML have said themselves there will be a fulsome refinancing… Cash raise or debt for equity swap. No other way… tons of dilution coming your way…”
13/03/24 - https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/AML/successful-pricing-of-194163115-billion-refinancing-d5vum9klhftyumb.html
@AlphaBetaOne – Finally, are you sure your post from 28/02/25 counts as a fact/positive contribution?
“Next cash raise will be *deeply* discounted. At current price of c.80p, expect new issue c.20p.”
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
C2645sg – 09/04/25 – Quote: “RIP AML.”
@c2645sg – Can you be a bit more specific about when exactly you predict AML will ‘die’ this time?
As you also told us AML was about to go bust over six months ago.
c2645sg – 30/09/24 – “…from a company who could go bankrupt at any moment?”
And you were pretty confident about AML’s imminent death over two & a half years ago too.
c2645sg – 13/10/22 – “Priced for its 8th bankruptcy now.”
So much for your claim of “prophecy of the last 4 years which has played out perfectly”. ;-)
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#MoreComedyGold
c2645sg – 17/04/25 – Quote: “What AML tells the market they ‘expect’ and reality are two completely different things.”
c2645sg – 17/04/25 – “In 2024 AML sold 6000 cars, and 1000 of them are current UNSOLD inventory in the US forecourts. So 6000 wholesales (AML to dealer) and 5000 retail sales (dealer to customer) Imagine 5000 gets hit by 20% reduction, that would take sales down to 4000 sales. Imagine what that would do to the balance sheet.”
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What @c2645sg tells LSE Chat they expect & reality are also two completely different things. ;-)
c2645sg 2021 Prediction: “Projection this year of 5666 cars sold (based on 9 months figure of 4250).”
2021 Actual = 6,178.
c2645sg 2022 Prediction: “H1 was 2675 sales, and that run rates looks similar in H2 so far. So roughly selling 5300 ish”
2022 Actual = 6,412.
c2645sg 2023 Predictions: “Q1 numbers were 1,269, so multiplied by 4 for full year is only 5076”
2023 Actual = 6,620
“Imagine” being wrong year after year & still posting idle speculation about AML sales. < Roll Eyes >
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As always, so much nonsense, but so little time to deal with even a small fraction of it.
Enjoy Bank Holiday Monday everyone. Cheers, Paul. :)
Contrariankiks – 17/04/25 – Quote – “Are u invested in Aston Martin, aml007?”
@contrariankiks – It’s a shame you don’t have @c2645sg’s claimed photographic memory. ;-)
As you asked me this on 18/03/25 & I answered on 19/03/25. So, why didn’t you read my original reply?
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AlphaBetaOne – 17/04/25 – Quote – “@AML_007, I'm terribly flattered!! I had no idea I was your highest priority today. Thanks!!”
@AlphaBetaOne – Nothing on this LSE Chat is a high priority for me, hence the “fun” reference.
Although, if you count one reply from me, after 80+ posts from you, as flattery, fill your boots.
Your post count for the last 30 days is more than my total posts for the last six months, so it appears that this LSE Chat is a much higher priority for you, than it is for me, doesn’t it?
You’ve certainly got @c2645sg’s tendency to change the subject rather than answer the question. ;-)
Why don’t you want to explain how you found this AML share chat? Or accept your 20p Cash Raise prediction was wrong? Or acknowledge that “babe magnet” is widely considered sexist today?
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AlphaBetaOne – 02/04/25 – “That's why some of us point out AML's appalling mismanagement of the company - to save people from losing even more money.”
@AlphaBetaOne – Who exactly is the “some of us” on here you say are trying to “save people”?
Because, as far as I can tell, only you and @c2645sg claim to be on this strange ‘noble’ quest to save random people on the internet, who you’ve never met, from other random people on the internet.
The strange element being that you only want to save people from one particular UK share out of the hundreds of other investments available, or other money losing scams for that matter.
Given that one of the cornerstones of UK law is ‘Caveat Emptor’ or “let the buyer beware”, why do you feel the need to save people from themselves, when the law itself expects them to DYOR?
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AlphaBetaOne – 28/03/25 – Quote – “Trump is to rationality what Clive Sinclair was to the C5.”
And finally, you appear to be suggesting that Trump is the inventor of rationality? < Roll Eyes >
OK, just for the fun of it, I’ll bite...
AlphaBetaOne – 26/02/25 – Quote “AML investor chat is like watching dung beetles arguing over a turd”
@AlphaBetaOne – Let me start by asking how you found this AML share chat in the first place?
Especially, given that you have just confirmed that you have never invested in AML shares.
AlphaBetaOne – 16/04/25 – “I haven't the first clue about fever dream fast shiny cars produced by money-losing entities which is why I don't invest in them & never have. Own one yes. Invest in them no.”
As it appears you ‘randomly’ discovered complete strangers discussing something that, in your own words, you know nothing about and don’t invest in. In addition, after finding this AML chat, it wasn’t worth reading in the first place. (Unless you enjoy watching dung beetles arguing over a turd.)
At which point, you decide to make a point of joining a share chat you are not interested in, just to tell everyone on here they are like dung beetles. Now, to the casual observer, that does appear a bit odd.
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Then, within days of joining a share chat about a company you “haven’t got the first clue about’, you were confidently predicting the way AML would raise cash and quoting an RNS from Sep.22. Let’s simply ignore the irony of asking for “few insults” after your opening post. < Roll Eyes >
AlphaBetaOne – 28/02/25 – “Next cash raise will be *deeply* discounted. At current price of c.80p, expect new issue c.20p.”
AlphaBetaOne – 28/02/25 – "The issue price of 103 pence represents... a discount of 78.5% to the closing price" Suggest more intelligence, less emotion, and certainly fewer insults. You never know, you might just learn something.” https://www.astonmartin.com/-/media/corporate/documents/capital-raise-july-2022/rights-issue-announcement.pdf?rev=67f656e926c746fa8069607320135e76&hash=5B1B718F1A08E3FA9DFBD6FFB7AF9AE2
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@AlphaBetaOne - How did you find out about the Sep.22 4:1 Rights Issue, but not come across the other/different ways AML has raised funds since then (unequal PI/majority owners, key investors & private debt)? Especially, as they all took place more recently (Aug.23, Aug.24 & Nov.24).
Also, the fact that the next AML cash raise announcement only involved Stroll / Yew Tree, not PIs, and was at a “c. 7% premium to the close on 28 March 2025 at 70 pence per share” suggests that we will not “learn something” from you after all.
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AlphaBetaOne – 14/04/25 – “There are two kinds of people in this world. 1/ Fever dream pubescents. 2/ Everyone else. :-)”
AlphaBetaOne – 31/03/25 – “babe magnet”
@AlphaBetaOne – There are two kinds of people in the word: 1 – Those who think using the phrase ‘babe magnet’ in 2025 isn’t sexist at best, or misogynist at worst. 2 – Everyone else.
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Have a good long Easter weekend e
C2645sg – 10/04/25 – Quote: “Nothing has changed for Aston Martin.”
Nothing?
Are you sure about that?
Because, as a direct result of the USA car tariffs, the UK Government made specific Aston Martin friendly changes to their ‘Zero Emission Vehicle Mandate’, meaning that AML can continue to sell cars with petrol engines in the UK forever and can sell hybrids (such as the Valhalla) for longer too.
“The wide-ranging package of measures introduced today will also exempt small and micro-volume manufacturers – supercar brands including McLaren and Aston Martin – from the 2030 phase out, preserving some of the UK car industry’s most iconic jewels for years to come.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/backing-british-business-prime-minister-unveils-plan-to-support-carmakers
DYOR, but that sounds like something has changed for Aston Martin to me.
Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
PS
c2645sg – 06/04/25 – Quote: “Trump did not create these tariffs just to back down on them 2 days later.”
Turns out Trump backed down from the penal reciprocal tariffs within hours, rather than days. ;-)
@Vanquished – I’m not going to speculate on AML’s SP (DYOR).
But here are a few more links to the announcements, to add to @Countach’s Sky News one:
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“The wide-ranging package of measures introduced today will also exempt small and micro-volume manufacturers – supercar brands including McLaren and Aston Martin – from the Mandate targets, preserving some of the UK car industry’s most iconic jewels for years to come.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/backing-british-business-prime-minister-unveils-plan-to-support-carmakers
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3xe7ppmn2o
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-tariffs-us-ev-mandate-tax-break-v5r3xgt2q
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Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
Thor111 – 02/04/25 – Quote – “But luckily according to c26 the dealers are completely overstocked with cars, so they can sell those quickly compared to the competition”
@Thor111 - @c2645sg also provided a link saying the same thing: https://ssoreport.com/auto-tariffs
“Ironically, at least in the short term, Aston Martin, via their annual Q4 loading of dealerships, is likely sitting on significant amount of pre-tariff inventory that can carry them into Q3.”
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Countach – 02/04/25 – Quote – “Going to be a tin hat day tomorrow.”
@Countach – Unfortunately, I think tin hats might be required for a while. < Roll Eyes >
Although, I liked @Orange7’s proposed ‘simple’ solution the other day, that would give Trump a ‘win’.
Orange7 – 28/03/25 – “The U.K. could reduce its import tariff on U.S. vehicles to the U.S. level of 2.5%.”
Especially, as Trump sees the UK as separate to the EU & not one of the "worst offenders" (his words).
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TheAnswerIsNo - 02/04/25 – Quote: “Paul still rampings....sad”
@c2645sg – Not as sad as you still clinging to the mis-guided belief that your sock puppet wasn’t well & truly busted. Or did you really believe that your feeble attempt to cover your tracks actually worked?
Anyway, how does pointing out Stroll or Bond Holders can’t simply buy AML at will, count as ramping?
Have a good day everyone, cheers, Paul. :)
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