RE: Negative feedbak loop25 Aug 2023 18:54
Y_H_a_L, I generally pay more heed to those that have a bearish attitude to equity markets, hence engaging in, I hope for others, something meaningful that benefits all of us.
Recessions are quite normal and tend to happen every 10 years or so. We have an extraordinary situation which I hope is never to be repeated in my lifetime or that for my children. Let's just work on facts and very broadly, shall we rather than get into minutiae?
A pandemic (Covid 19) was declared in 2020 and, over a series of a few weeks decision was taken by Governments all around the world to deliberately trash their economy through lockdowns of varying punitive measures. In compensation schemes were devised to inject eye watering amounts of cash for the most normal of lives with a tiny element of cash generated by taxation.
Stock markets tanked but it was short lived - just a few days from February 2020 to late March 2020 to recover the ground. When effective vaccine was announced, it was that which allowed lives to resume to more normal levels (I will ignore the antics of moronic ministers) and things returned to resume the progress witnessed up to to end of January 2020 which brought us all up to a pretty even keel in December 2021.
But, things all changed when Mr Putin unleashed a war at the very point when it became clear that the cost of 2 years of nil receipts funded by 80% wages for a substantial proportion of the workforce needed to be paid for and plans put in place to balance the books. We had an immediate cost of living crisis with fuel prices soaring from the point where oil could not be given away to stupid levels, goods unable to ship and a danger of food shortage. Interest rates rose, and rose and rose. They have probably not yet peaked. The war in Ukraine for most that remained invested thoughout caused falls of 15-30%. For me 22% and not quite with 6 zero's in the number
But, Germany has had a technical recession, our economy is not exactly ripping along but progress excites investors and AI, is here, real and improving. That is why NVDA is doing so well.
When the rich take fright, they return to havens of safety. Small enterprises are not safe. Miners, no matter how large are also not very safe (different argument) and Banks, despite having the appearance of respectability are not that safe either. So where are investors putting their money? Well Gilts (government bonds) and companies that CANNOT go bust - Amazon, Google, Shell etc (I hold shares in all of those companies). ASML (another holding) should be doing better etc
Any recession either here or in USA has been priced in. We are actually at the start of a bull market that, Bob Beckman described in the '70's as an elevator with a lunatic at the controls.