RE: Dreadful Price Action28 Sep 2023 21:00
DiggerDave, I have no idea if this helps, but investing is supposed to be preparing the foundation for the point when there will be reliance on capital where, based on market performance, assurance of return allows comfortable retirement without worrying about income. We also know that the historic return from investments listed in London, New York, Hong Kong etc are and we also know what the historic yield that long term investing provides for investors. The broad rule of thumb for investors is that expectation is for capital to double every 10 years (8% return).
We don't actually know for certain which companies will double their market capital so we need to have a solid foundation of companies that don't have much change to their market cap but just generate dividends, something boring like LGEN. Next we need to look at the world and take a stab as to what is going to be needed for the present and the future. Food, medicine and technology. Now, food is fickle and is at the mercy of weather, war and distribution, so buying seed merchants is out but buying tractor makers will always be sensible. John Deere is the market leader.
People are getting older so they live and need medicine, so a pharmaceutical company should be in focus. We all need housing, some is rented and others need either to be build or repaired. Timber, aggregate and steel builds the structure but copper provides the wiring and plumbing. Copper is needed for cars and next generation motoring. This means that miners and lumber should be represented in a portfolio.
Anyway...... we can on on with this tack for a book, but what is the argument to own shares in OTB? Well, for me it is for capital growth. I have the foundation covered and that provides 8% capital growth with 1.3% thrown off in addition as dividends. That brings my return to 9.3% BUT my average long term growth has been 13.5%. How come? Well, there is some speculation - not all of these investments come good. Begbies, (bought 18 months ago) an accountancy business dealing in insolvency which should be flying, is at lows so 80% holding sold recently.
Interest rates have usually been at current levels (and were for 60 or so years to 2007) so I have no reason to doubt that there will be little change over the next 2 years or so, but is uncomfortable for some, but people will always want to travel. I am hoping that the bespoke end of travel will be the driver of profits but transitioning from the bucket and spade brigade is tricky. Fortunately competition is contracting in current market.
Why fortunately? Well, this actually is quite a well run business and at present levels provides very attractive entry price PROVIDED the market cap improves. I believe it will, but to hedge my bets I've bought shares in Google as people shop around for a bargain
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