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Hi Red

Yes, I know what you mean about UHL.

The questions the interview answered for me were expected valuation upon floatation, monies it would release for United Hydrogen to play with, but most importantly confirmation that the companies within its umbrella were run independently, which was something you and I discussed many months ago and couldn't get a definite answer on. But yes, I agree with your general overview of them and Scooby' s comment that they seemingly attempt to own everything Hydrogen.

Bit of a scatter gun approach.

Not knowing the ins and outs of IPO floatation, I'm more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt, even after all this time, that they shall eventually succeed with an IPO. Acknowledgement that it has been unsuccessful and withdrawn will probably pull Powerhouse down a tad but, as we all know, all of these things are a sideshow to the headline act, which is Powerhouse undertaking everything it is intending and in reasonable time.

Red

When we were discussing United Hydrogen some months ago and their relationships with those companies within their umbrella, I know you and I had many questions and reservations. One in particular was our uncertainty as to who was running the many companies. That seems to have been answered by the interview I came across the weekend with Richard Allen in Forbes magazine of Australia. It's worth a look if you haven't seen it. It's dated 23rd August 2023. A year old but did answer a few questions I had.

I still have questions and remain hopeful my recent E-mail to them may shed more light on my reservations. After all, their website does say to contact them if you require information. If you don't ask, you don't get.

The bottom line for me, regardless of all the discussions around United Hydrogen's floatation, is that I can't see a company committing themselves fully to any technology unproven at full scale.

Could wake up tomorrow to an RNS stating the complete opposite.

We shall see.

Red

It's worth remembering, as I'm sure you do, the companies within the United Hydrogen umbrella aren't fully owned by them. United Hydrogen have stakes in them, but they are independent companies each run by their own management. The United Hydrogen floatation is expected to value the company at around a billion dollars, from which 50 to 100 million dollars shall be received by United Hydrogen to expand their company. At no point have United Hydrogen stated that any of this money shall be used to fund National Hydrogen's purchase of Powerhouse technology. In fact, it's more likely that it shall be used to expand their company stakes towards their aimed 75.

This is just my assumption they shall used monies raised to this end.

I posted many months ago that National Hydrogen's fund raise, independent of United Hydrogen, had closed, and from this I'd concluded they had been successful in their own fundraise. However, as we all know, no news of firm and confirmed purchase agreements of Powerhouse technology has materialised to date.

It would be good to learn for definite whether United Hydrogen's floatation is dependent upon orders feeding through to Powerhouse.

I suspect the United Hydrogen floatation is irrelevant to orders being confirmed for Powerhouse technology. Money for orders shall come directly from National Hydrogen's independent fundraise, but held back until technology has been proven to work at full scale.

Time shall tell.

I got where you were coming from, Dusty.

I wasn't having a go at you.

Hi Dusty

Not possible related third party for IPO, if you're referring to my Canada comment, but confirmed.

Richard Allen has stated United Hydrogen floatation shall be dual floatation on Australian and North American markets, most likely Canada as he considers Canada to be ahead of the game.

Out of the five Canadian stock markets only three do IPOs. I looked at the three that do IPOs and none have United Hydrogen listed as upcoming floatation. I then checked average lead in time that lists upcoming IPOs: six months.

Considering the talk on here about the soon-to-be floatation of United Hydrogen from which it is expected (although not confirmed) monies raised shall feed through to Powerhouse, I would consider that to be worthy research and something notable to discuss.

However, it seems Jancux wants to contribute nothing and occasionally post with nothing but criticism if anyone posts what he doesn't want to hear.

Jancux

Are you able to expand on the games you consider me to be playing?

And it shall be a dual listing.

Average notification time for IPO listing is six months.

Having checked upcoming IPOs on the three Canadian exchanges on which United Hydrogen can float there is no mention of them.

More than happy to be corrected if others can find United Hydrogen's floatation date.

Testpack

You certainly know more than I do regarding the intricacies of the various processes. But in short, yes, I consider Powerhouse to be pyrolysis heated via the produced syngas. This makes it self sufficient, but not as I understand it, unique. For other pyrolysis systems currently do this. Maybe you could confirm or dismiss my thinking on that.

Also, as far as I am aware, syngas produces CO2 when burnt. And it is this which could cause a headache for Powerhouse. For whilst the pyrolysis process itself creates no emissions, the heating of the thermal combustion chamber will do so if heated by syngas. And it is this which, in the eyes of some of the general public, politicians and decision makers, forced Peel to abandon their Scottish plans with Powerhouse technology a few years ago. This can not be simply dismissed as a one off with the assumption push back against Powerhouse technology shall not happen again. Hence, my recent interest in the Australian attitude and their similar, if not more aggressive, attitude to these proposed plans to 'incinerate' as they see it.

I've contacted United Hydrogen requesting information that is not price sensitive, such as whether they are able to give an update on their propossed floatation with regard to a timeline; if their floatation is dependent upon National Hydrogen going forward with F.I.D on Powerhouse technology; whether Hitachi Zosen Inova are advising National Hydrogen (this is crucial given their global standing and advice to customers about purchasing technology not proven at full scale); the management who are solely running National Hydrogen.

Castle

If you've been here eight years then you really should be able to clarify and substantiate the two questions put to you today in reply to your claims.

I tell you what, let's just try one of them: can you please explain how Powerhouse's hydrogen shall be more cost effective than any produced by competitors?

Now I've asked that question as I did earlier today: respectfully and politely. Whether it comes from someone who is invested or not, it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask someone who stated what you did.

It's what this board is for. To discuss matters relevant to Powerhouse Energy.

My God.

Someone actually recommended Castle's post of 16:11.

Kind of makes you despair for the whole of humanity lol.

God what a childish and utterly pathetic post.

What on earth are you talking about, Castle?

I've never bought AFC in my life. More dreaming by you.

No I'm not invested here. I've told you that a million times. I used to be a long term holder but sold out when White started leading people on. I'm massively interested in the technology, as I've stated also many times. I think Powerhouse has potential. That's why I'm here and it's why I ask questions that are relevant.

It's a pity that such a flag bearer as you can't answer some of them.

You certainly are the real deal, Castle.

I've lost count of the amount of times you've bragged about your so-called wealth.

Has it ever occurred to you that those to whom you're talking may have more?

Give it a rest about your apparent wealth.

Those who really have it don't keep talking about it.

And those who have it certainly don't make it by investing in shares like you have.

All of your chosen shares down.

Who cares, you asked.

Certainly not me.

You keep giving me clown emojis, yet you're the biggest clown of all.

I've asked you many pertinent and relevant questions over the months, challenging your claims about Powerhouse technology in particular and about their set up and relationship with United Hydrogen in general, and you are never able to answer. Today was a perfect example of what this board is supposed to be for, whether invested or not, and you couldn't handle it.

You made two claims about the technology which I politely and respectfully asked you to clarify and substantiate, and you couldn't even do it.

It's there in your posting history, Castle.

You constantly try to play the big I am, and not one of your investments is in profit.

27th August at 14:06

Price was 8.2p

Today it's 7.61p

And you come on here telling people to buy.

You're a joke.

I've developed an investment tool free to anyone who wants it.

It's called the contra Castle indicator.

You listen to what you're advising and do the complete opposite.

It's there in your posting history, Castle.

You asked him if he was going to 'get into these bad boys'.

Hi Testpack

Yes, that flow chart reference is to which I referred.

Although it's small, and in brackets, a reference to it on a homepage explaining on a flowchart what the company does, to me at least, is confirmation.

I'd be interested to learn your view on that, because I did look elsewhere and came to the conclusion that if it's not pyrolysis they shouldn't mention it on that flowchart.

You really are inept aren't you, Castle.

You put anything you fancy out there to try to ramp up the share price and are totally incapable of backing it up.

On 7th August you posted on here that the share price would be 1.7p by the following Friday. You even gave a little winking emoji as if to say listen to me I know.

On the same day you posted that you had bought GDR at 3.45p. Those are way down.

On 24th August you posted in your own inimitable way, taking the mickey out of campers and caravaners, that HE1 would open after the bank holiday above 1.7p. That's way down too.

You were trying to persuade Dusty the other day to get into EEE at 8.2p. And guess what! They're down too.

And you have people who recommend your posts!

God help them lol.

It's the blind leading the blind.