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Scooby

Positive milestones have been achieved this year, and I do congratulate Emmitt and his team for getting them in the bag. I do recognise what has been a success. However, from the perspective of an outsider deciding whether to invest, they do come with caveats.

Potential delays and setbacks in the hot commissioning process are not my only rationale for not yet investing.

And I do wish for favourable test results.

Favourable test results in particular to Powerhouse and more positive signs in the broader view - especially National Hydrogen following their much welcome FEED contract.

Yes I have been saying strong sell all year. At prices higher than this.

I have no control over the timeline.

Time does not diminish my interest.

My post this morning was a genuine one, Dusty. Increasingly, pyrolysis technology is being labelled as incineration. I find that concerning. So when a government announcement is due tomorrow on incineration I honestly think the two questions I asked this morning are highly relevant to the broader picture here.

Couldn't care less whether you and others make a million or lose a million.

It's of no interest to me.

I'm here because I think Powerhouse have potential and I'm looking to invest here again if test results are favourable. I have a sell at the moment because I feel there is a high risk of delays and setbacks. If all goes well I may invest on the back of good news. Yes, at a higher price. But my choice.

If I happen to read a newspaper article over breakfast that I feel is relevant to the bigger picture here and which those with a more open mind may find of interest then I'll post it.

If you need to portray me as someone concerned for others wealth, spending a large part of my holiday doing so in order to fit your narrative of me then do so.

Not here hard at it.

Certainly not saving lives and finances.

Merely highlighting an article in a daily newspaper relevant to this company.

Interesting article in today's Guardian newspaper.

Shall tomorrow's government announcement differentiate between incineration and pyrolysis?

Do those making the decisions within government even know the difference between the technologies?

Are the rumours true that this bulletin board is being moved to the comedy channel in the new year?

Jancux

I merely cited Huayin as an example of how the self sufficient part of the process is not exclusive to Powerhouse Energy.

Morning Castle

The patent is just about controlling the temperature within the kiln over several zones in order to produce the optimum syngas. Yes, the syngas is then redirected back into the system to heat the TCC, but this using of the syngas is now common practice within the industry.

Huayin International have a good video demonstration on their website showing how they do this in their pyrolysis system. It's worth a look.

Castle

It can be frustrating dealing with governments, getting them to see things how they should be rather than how they are.

The bottom line is that only electrolysis from renewable sources is classed as green hydrogen except, I believe, a couple of European countries who include pyrolysis. You may be able to enlighten me more on which ones. But in the main, globally, green only from renewable electrolysis.

I admire your optimism that the opening of the test centre shall shift political thinking regarding classification, but I remain sceptical on this.

Even with carbon capture, environmentalists class it as a linear and dirty process, failing to close the loop in creating a circular economy by burning waste and in doing so promoting the manufacture of single use plastics.

Environmentalists weild great power and influence, and the part they shall play in this process should not be underestimated or dismissed lightly.

There is nothing ground breaking about Powerhouse technology being self sufficient. It is a widely used practice within the industry already.

Dusty

I agree.

But the concerns and reservations I put forward are international. By no means are environmental concerns put forward in the UK solely the concern of the UK.

Castle

Yes, carbon capture has to be considered to promote Powerhouse technology as environmentally friendly. However, even carbon capture isn't necessarily seen as the answer by some.

Slappy

I've been saying all year that Powerhouse technology produces emissions and as such, in doing so, is seen by environmentalists, local opposition groups and politicians as incineration.

Measuring the amount of syngas burnt and extrapolating emissions from that may help, but I feel to most it shall be binary, and as such incineration.

It's no good supporters of Powerhouse technology just stating and believing the environmentalists and politicians shall be simply won over, because I don't think they shall.

Wish

It's getting that mindset to change.

You and I and those tuned in to Powerhouse know it's not incineration. But we're not the decision makers.

It's a big hurdle and one that has to be overcome. It's what caused the Scottish endeavour to fail.

I believe Aviva Investors trouble has had an impact on the share price not rising more the past few months.

Hi Wish

Not sure if you would consider it a gem of information, but one I think is worthy of a mention and which could be holding back the share price - certainly for me anyway. Namely, Aviva Investors decision last month to put into liquidation its three 'incinerators' around the UK - one in Hull; Barry and Boston.

Aviva Investors is one of the largest UK pension funds and their writing off over £350 million - some reports say up to £750 million - has not gone unnoticed within the city.

I've put incinerators in question marks, for whilst this is how it's being reported in headlines, it is in fact gasification. I consider this a big public relations hurdle proponents of this technology and potential customers of Powerhouse technology have to face and overcome.

Lis Burnett, leader of Vale of Glamorgan council, has stated she thinks gasification technology should be banned in Wales.

It's like the many very low volume share trades that are just a few quid. Some think it's the MM sending each other messages in code. They are in fact SI trades: Systematic Internaliser trades.

Google can explain that better than me.

Slappy

At first glance, yes. And it could be.

I'm no expert. Hence the happy to be corrected bit.

It can be misleading the share trade reporting.

It's like when there are, for example, five buys to one sell. Some think it means five times as many shares are bought than sold. In fact, it means the amount of trades and not the amount of shares.

It can be confusing trying to get your head around what really is being bought and sold and the amounts.

The large trade at the end of the day is unknown. It could be a buy or a sell.

It's a delayed publication trade, meaning it could have been executed up to 45 days ago.

Delayed trades allow institutional investors to hide their voting rights and can make the trade appear to be on the wrong side of the quote upon which it was acted.

Ie, it could be the White family selling, Castle.

Last night someone posted about a large buy at the end of the day. This was in fact an uncrossed trade.

Happy to be corrected about the above.

There's a chimney in the opening shot and 1 minute 15 seconds in lol.

If Powerhouse technology is what it claims shouldn't that have been hairbrushed out!

Castle

As I've stated before, it could well be the White family.

I feel it's only correct to state this is a possibility and not a certain fact. To state it's definitely them when we just don't know could be doing them a disservice.

If they are selling then my take on it is that it's their shares to sell if they so wish. Yes, it was underhand in the past to say the opposite of what they were doing, but if they are selling now my main concern would be why if Powerhouse technology and prospects are that good.

Their selling or not selling is, to me at least, a side issue.

Castle

If at any time you feel like a sensible, objective and rational discussion about Powerhouse then let me know.

Since the beginning of the year you were promising the share price would be 12p this Christmas. Many good things have happened this year which were promised, yet still the share price is here. Potential investors are still holding back. I'm one of them and can only speak for myself as to why I'm not currently putting my money in again, but I guess it's along the lines of why others are not either.

It seems nonsensical to me for you to question why the share price hasn't risen on all this good news whilst at the same time shouting down those who are trying to tell you why.