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Companies in trouble with too much debt often do a rights issue to get some money in.
Vodafones buying of shares each day seems a bit stupid in my opinion, they might need that money very soon.
"Doesn't make sense. They need to suspend dividend anyway. The buyback could be used to pay down debt."
But the buyback are paying down debt in a way and preventing dilution.
"The took on debt to buy the Vodafone stake"
If that's the case then they're silly Billy's. Who supplied the debt and on what terms? Is the interest on the debt covered by Vodafone dividends?
Doesn't make sense. They need to suspend dividend anyway. The buyback could be used to pay down debt.
"In this environment the buybacks may have a negative effect on the SP. Spending billions to buy stock when you could be paying off debt is clearly not impressing the big money."
The buybacks are to prevent dilution due to maturity of MCB's, the buybacks make perfect sense. The more shares in issue, the more cash required to cover the dividends.
The took on debt to buy the Vodafone stake.
"non stop selling the emirates are sitting on huge loss i think their average is 130"
Somehow I don't think they'll be too worried about sitting on paper losses, they may even decide to top up more. I 'm assuming they aren't leveraged, so why would they worry?
In this environment the buybacks may have a negative effect on the SP. Spending billions to buy stock when you could be paying off debt is clearly not impressing the big money.
"wonder how low sp would be without the buyback"
The share buybacks make no difference, in my opinion, since the buybacks are around 6 million per day with the average traded shares being 111,693,356, over the last 49 days, so around 5.4% of the last 49 day average. The purchases may also be off book and if that's the case they wouldn't affect the on exchange price anyway.
They will be playing with their tents out in the desert. Nobody will worry for them lol. Their goats are nicer people.
non stop selling the emirates are sitting on huge loss i think their average is 130
Wow what a day... stoch at zero
You think?
Anyhoo, starting to gaining momentum.
wonder how low sp would be without the buyback
Just went 83.99 for a few seconds
Think I'll get a takeaway tonight, it being Friday and celebrate not being tempted by Vodafones 'bargain' price shares.
Normally i do take reckless gambles but not this time.
you would have to chuckle if verizon comms came in with a cheeky low ball offer and walked away with the spoils! People talking about vod only being a utility - i have news , that is all it is until they develop another platform offering entertainment. A rival to M and H - Prince A arguing with his butler about who should pick up the corgi poop. take care and don't buy too many vod shares until the new year, santa rally will be a little late this year.
only hope is a takeover at 110p to cut losses
The markets rose 400 points and vodafone has continued to drop. If logic remains it should have risen when the markets rose. It didn't because the spin machine trying to paint a rosy picture failed again
Not all VOD is regulated. It would be the competition commission/ competition advisory tribunals who decide. If reid lost the job for the consolidation strategy and slow rot, then the new CEO/hostile takeover could be combination of different industries. Why wouldnt eg Google be interested and divest the bits it doesnt want to keep, grow small business/ internet economy etc
life in the old dog yet.
I am out of contract this month but dont really need a new handset so voxi looks a good offer
If MDV can reduce churn/ increase acquisitions, these seasonal sales will show up in this FY results without the need for capex imo
Regulator would block take over bid. It’s never going private either ..
At this rate and current trend, soon the Vantage Towers market cap (ca EUR17billion) is as big as the entire market cap of Vod.
IMO this is now ripe for a hostile take-over bid. Mind numbing and surreal price action.
I wish I had a few billions which I could use as collateral to take this private myself.
If out of sheer luck the company is not snapped up, the entire BOD should be replaced. The lack of leadership with b$$ls and no clear communication is rather shocking.
65p to 70p imo.
check out the vodafone sim only brand for example of pricing
https://www.voxi.co.uk/sim-only-plans#order-sim-form-title