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Ignorant rather than arrogant.
Wasn't Brexit, but the determination of those in power to create a narrative that it is, as they were given a bloody nose by those uppity peasants. Same with Trump in USA. Russia has been a massive own goal, as the UK and Europe lost it's cheap energy, it's weapons and cash, credibility with two thirds of the world which is not beholden to the West, the utter incompetence and malevolence of the COVID scam, plus now the climate change con.
An evil, corrupt and degenerate ruling class across Europe and the West is behind it.
The need is to loot the treasury as a last act before the whole rotten edifice of the economic Ponzi scheme which the West has run since the 1970s, is collapsed. War deflects from the real reasons, allows a reset ( Build Back Better, anyone ? ) and the crooks in charge get another go-around with a Bretton Woods 2. Cancel debt, massive profits rebuilding Europe again, reduce the population a bit, bring in a new set of restrictions and electronic surveillance state, complete with CBDC. What's not to like ?
Maybe Add, but i for one also heed the feedback of farmers, fishermen and women and workers from other industries who are demonstrably disappointed that Brexit was not the unicorn that was promised.
The problem is that the Leave campaign sold an unrealistic dream and plenty of hard working people, the folks our politicians like everyone to believe they are fighting for, felt sold down the river, now facing unreasonable barriers when doing business with EU member states.
Remainers are naive if they claim the EU are perfect and there's a case that they as a collective should continually be evolving, but whichever way we look at it, Brexit cause an unnecessary fracture, one that many in the UK were too arrogant to appreciate before going to the ballot box.
The “virus” was entirely self inflicted damage but a lot of the west were in lockstep. Never in recent history was an entire population put under house arrest, nor forced to wear certain clothing, nor aggressively coerced into medical treatment
That event was the first coordinated global attack to dismantle the west, our values, freedoms and wealth.
We all know that the second one is now well underway. Brexit is a convenient excuse
It's a possibility !
Bozi, the classic Remainer argument is that all our current woes are due to Brexit - nothing could be further from the truth. It may be convenient for them to blame Brexit, but they ALWAYS ignore the immense damage done by the virus and the murderous behaviour of Putin. If they do acknowledge these two seismic events, they do so begrudgingly and attempt to downplay their significance. By comparison, the impact of Brexit is a drop in the ocean.
I’m equally staggered
Should we be wondering who has compromised his login credentials?
FINALLY !
Quady and I agree on something !
It was bang on point…….
Yes - we saw where that got us Add...
Morning Quady, something very strange going on here. I agree with your comment 100%
Eloro we have lots of trade deals.
Even with the USA.
Just not a complete trade deal.
Also before Brexit the USA was the country we did most trade with.
We gave tens of billions of pounds to the EU, any in return they restricted our trade with the rest of the world.
Costs are rising faster in the EU as extra regulations means more difficult to trade.
All protectionism eventually comes to an end.
Just as the EU will one day die.
Remember it took over forty years to destroy our trading position with the rest of the world.
We have been out of the EU for less than ten years.
We gave up a trade deal with 2.4 billion people to enter one with 0.5 billion people.
Remember we traded with the commonwealth.
Once Biden's gone a trade deal will follow. Mind you, the world will be in the hands of yet another mad man, so a trade deal will be the least of our worries.
On the subject of Russia, if you haven't already seen it, I'd urge you to watch 20 Days in Mariupol. I've never seen such a heartbreaking and powerful documentary.
As for the EU, I can see no reason why we'd want to continue being tethered to a sinking ship. Cameron offered them the opportunity to change, but they told him to feck off, something many of them have subsequently said was a big mistake. They have one choice, reform or die.
We are better off alone if there is a threat from the East, they will have to fight their way through Europe just like the last World Wars and the Yanks will still use us as the last refuge of democracy before the Atlantic. I doubt there will be Nukes over the US unless we also fell. I was just thinking yesterday how the Media reported how bad the EU's finances were before Brexit happened. They revelled in the bad news of all the bust EU countries like Greece etc. When the vote went the wrong way for them they immediately stopped bad mouthing the EU and started their long campaign against Brexit.
I wouldn't be surprised if the BBC helped to finance the obnoxious bloke who still disrupts broadcasts on College Green.
The special relationship will get a whole lot better when we get Trump back in.
On the downside he might just make things worse in the East.
I was quite proud to be part of the EU. Now look at us, all alone without any trade deals to replace the EU. Just ask the Scottish Fisher men what they think the benefits of Brexit are!
Now is the time for unity, not us alone. Russia and China are the threats, not Brussels. No trade deal from the USA. So much for the special relationship!
Bozi, yes, that's true. At least Johnson got us out of the EU.
I think much if not all of that is valid, Add and without doubt Darryl's sacking has propelled us a few light years further along.
I also wholeheartedly share your view on SC.
I also think there's sense in your comparison between Johnson and Mather, personality wise at least. I'd say one did a much better job than the other though.
Bozi, the DC situation is interesting. He claimed that he was merely carry out the wishes of the Board and that he was sacked when the Board changed its mind and this appears to have merit.
If I'm right about the release of the contingent liabilities in the last accounts, it's cost us £2m to get rid of DC and to my mind, the blame lies squarely with Mather and Twigger. This is not to say I thought he was any good - I didn't - and getting rid of him opened the way towards what most of us want.
Kat - nobody realised Cazzubbo was a cuckoo. Nobody had a problem with him even despite the dialed down reserves, until he was fired which caught many by surprised.
I know this because I was the one who pointed out the BHP representation amongst the company's senior management at the time. That was addressed soon after for obvious reasons.
Politics is an odd one and lets face it, if you are good at your profession, successful in life, then you are not going to go into politics. It's not for successful people. It's for a certain type of person... the type that need some kind of feeling of self importance. That's why you rarely find and smart ones and most are just Eton drop outs types.
But placing that aside, can anyne seriously explain out of all the millions of people in the US.. why the most powerful country in the world (apparently) would head into their elections with two candiates... 1. An old man that can't string a sentence together or even stand up properly without falling over and 2. An absolute nutter who's associated with failed business, tax fiddles, call girls and laughed at global media? I just can't work that one out? Surely the US can find two better candidates than that??? That's how sad the world is... the fact that Russia can't get rid of Putin shows you that the 'free world' is far from free and the fact that the US has two absolutely 'wrong' candidates running for president tells teh west is not any different.
It's madness. Utterly bonkers world we live in today.
I hear you Add, I prefer "did" to "doing".
So, I will wait to read what Scott did, and not what we think he is doing!
Eloro, Doubting Thomas was killed with a spear, so if we take your analogy further, in your case the spear will be an RNS which strikes you through the heart. And bear in mind Jesus presented the evidence and told him to stop doubting and to believe...which is exactly what Caldwell's doing.
Cheers Mathers, I hope that both you and Add are right. I really need an holiday which will be my treat to myself should we get sold while I can still get up the stairs of an aircraft and not stumble like President Biden!
Add, equate me to the Apostle Thomas! Unless I can put my finger into his wound, I will continue to doubt. I will wait until we have an outcome before I start to sing his praise. I recall that we weren't going to see the 2023 agm, yet here we are.
Eloro,
This could be sold well before then, I personally can see this in someone else’s hands, who’s is the question
Atb