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It’s one of those shares. The minute you sell out, they shoot up. So you sit tight and watch wincing and waiting for that miracle.
Rolls-Royce shares will be a big winner very soon - hold on tight!!!!!!!
Of course, what's worse is that Carnival are going to bounce like mad tomorrow.
I'm 5% down on RR, but I would have been 12% up on Carnival............
Oh the injustice of it all...........
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All of the US has rebounded.
Strange how that always happens just after the UK close.
Unfortunately everything in all travel in the US, and defence and everywhere else..........apart from RYCEY...
LOL
Another crap day with anybrise getting sold into, bring on the 90s so I can finally forget this **** show
Money due to come in and money actually in the bank are very different things, although the expectation is priced in, I still think there will be a rise when the actual money is in the bank and it is used to repay debt like they have communicated they will do.
I can’t se that being Rolls ADR are on the rise ?
ITP money is all priced in since last year .
It is ****ing USA needs to be sorted first.
Yanks dragging us down again. There's no respite from the constant drops on any small rise. Let's hope the ITP money, when it eventually arrives, gives this a boost that it can hang on to. It's getting tedious now!
US Retail out tomorrow?
erm, yes, thats what happened - and that' also how rating agencies make money! NOthing controversial here, just a bit of a conflict of interest.
This being said, not all their work is bad or biased and there have been improvements since 2008, but still, the "boss override" on otherwise proper work performed by usually capable analysts still exists and drives me as mad as it drives JTT....
now don't tell me that RR paid millions to Moody to give a stable rating!
The whole investment in any industry is still based on the rating given by the rating agencies like Fitch and Moody's.
If you don't trust the rating agency then what is your investment in RR based on? Trust in your cat?
Warren East said he will work to improve the investment rating for RR and we now have an upgraded stable rating.
This upgraded rating will definitely bring in more investors and more money into RR.
Rollwr coaster ride has been with almost like every UK share and not just RR.
Even the tech shares in US are having wild swings.
I agree that vultures like JPMorgan are attacking RR and keeping the price low but it is utter bull**** to say that there is a backhand transaction with Moody's. I have a relative working in Moody's. They do a thorough analysis when rating a company. Their upgraded rating for RR is a massive positive boost for investing in RR.
The forces that were keeping RR price down will start to retreat with this upgraded rating . To me, upward trend is confirmed. Let's see...
Onthecoast, thanks for the numbers.
I have a feeling that downbeat guidance is only to show that board is right in changing the CEO and the narrative will be positive once the new CEO comes in end of this year!
Look at Netflix they gave a downbeat guidance about the loss in number of subscribers but this quarter update showed that the loss was only half of their forecast in 1st quarter.
Travel is recovering nicely and I can't see that it would take 2024 to reach precovid levels. Demand this year has been back to 2019 levels already but it is the staff shortages that killed the revenues.
Recently the company stated air travel would return to 2019 levels in 2024. two years later than expected.
Profits and estimates have been downgraded since. Figures below are 1p EPS 2022 , 4p EPS 2023 and 7p 2024. Last year forecasts were 9p EPS in 2023 so now half that. The company is sticking with forward guidance statement so they aren't disputing the broker forecasts ? Just taking longer.
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ROLLS-ROYCE-HOLDINGS-PLC-4004084/financials/
In the pandemic after the restructuring , this was valued at 72p with no ITP sales, no travel in pandemic and no big contracts like the F130 engines for the US air force’s B-52 Stratofortress for the next 30 years, which could be worth as much as $2.6bn (£1.9bn).
WIth ITP sale secured and aviation getting back to 2019 levels, it is utter ridiculous for JPMorgan to call 70p price target.
Atleast 120p is a reasonable valuation and huge potential for £3 and above if civil aviation recovers and remains at 2019 levels.
Last year it was two weeks, and it went up 40%.
This time, it will jump a lot quicker and higher, as soon as the starting gun is shot. When will that happen, I really hope it's soon.............
I have got to say, Imho I think RR will take off like a rocket. don't know when and I believe it will be a one off stock that breaks all predictions.
But what do I know, I am just a good looking bloke hoping he's correct :-)
Simple set up with technical indicators below. Remove the moving averages and set 10 day simple MA. Leave the RSI indicator on the chart which is above the chart you see. Add in Slow Stochastic and Williams%R from the lower indicators. Remove MACD. You'll be set with 10 day MA and three indicators Stoch RSI and Williams. High indicators are short term overbought and low indicators oversold. There's a clear link to see with price and the indicators. All depends if you trade short term or LTH. I use this set up BTW.
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=RR.L
More tea leaves from that 50% retrace article. Probably came from this guy as he highlighted the same situation on the SP500 in 2020 covid crash. New video August 12th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Va-GXcwng
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When US rallies , RR will rally too. Anyone able to confirm where RR is with technical indicators?
I'm not saying 160p by next week.
Baby steps needed.
First target to hit is 90p again.
With travel likely to get back to normal and inflation not deterring travellers so far, we shall see good rise in flying hours a with aviation recovering back to 2019 levels and that's all is needed for SP to recover. With civil aviation at 2019 levels, SP should swiftly recover to 150p+ as the SP was at £2.50 in 2019.
150p is still 40% less than 2019 levels.
Also compared to 2019, RR now has electric flying, Trent engines fixed, engines running on SAF & SMRs. So adding these on top of 2019 levels, SP should be much higher than 250p.
This dream will come true. It is just a matter of when.
Hopefully £1 by Xmas this year.
By Bernberg in June and Citi also had 150p in Jan.
Other than the macro factors, business wise things have improved for RR. First half profit fell compared to last year but RR reiterated the guidance for full year. It will still have positive cash flow. Flying hours should improve as well in second half as airports are looking to increase the passenger capacity. So the 150p+ price target given this year should still stand IMO.