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https://www.ii.co.uk/analysis-commentary/rolls-royce-rights-issue-all-you-need-know-ii513777
Now then set this US chart to 1 day and look how the futures markets are dropping at 9 am uk time.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/stock-market
now look at RR intraday. 9AM you see
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChart.html?sharechart=RR.&share=Rolls-Royce&chart=intraday
I've finally figured you out - you're a Drag Queeen - arnt you !
Benny Dorm
Manipulated when it drops a few pennies but not manipulated when it rises 50%. 200p-300p in weeks. Why not just accept this is the way the markets work. It's a trend up or down or a consolidation period and these periods could last weeks or months. We've also got no idea what's priced in either but in this case you'd think a fair bit already. Earnings forecasts are 14p I think ? That's a P/E over 20 . That ain't cheap put it that way.
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=UK%3ARR&x=0&y=0&time=6&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F5%2F2021&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=9&uf=0&lf=32&lf2=256&lf3=4&type=4&style=320&size=2&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
Decent example how it works with PSN. Inflation and rates look like they've peaked for now. Share is off to the moon before it all happens. You've got to be quick at times.
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=UK%3APSN&x=0&y=0&time=6&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F5%2F2021&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=9&uf=0&lf=32&lf2=256&lf3=4&type=4&style=320&size=2&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
So price has gone from 200p to 300p in 7 weeks yet a drop of a few pennies is causing a concern to some people ? It's fantastic and rarely happens. 50% up so even if it dropped 10% to 270p it wouldn't be anything but normal.
Well if you wanted to be negative there's a spikey candle for the last few days which often signals a short term top according to the tea leaves.
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=UK%3ARR&x=0&y=0&time=6&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F5%2F2021&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=9&uf=0&lf=32&lf2=256&lf3=4&type=4&style=320&size=2&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
Realistically forward earnings are around 12p for 2024 so 300p/12 is a P/E of 25. Fair old valuation that so what's priced in and what's not ?. All in the links below.
https://markets.investorschronicle.co.uk/data/equities/tearsheet/forecasts?s=RR.:LSE
This one is constantly updated see last 30 days for EPS forecast.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/RR.L/analysis?p=RR.L
Good luck all . Well rewarded so far.
Depends how you look at charts as there's many indicators etc. In the case of RR it's on a roll regardless in a recovery phase. That's why investors have jumped on board from a £1 or so. They've been rewarded as the company reports much better results. The charts mightn't help short term as information happens quickly and rapid moves in price can leave you stranded.
Anyway that link is using different indicators to mine but shows overbought/oversold short term moves which are a mirror image of price. If horizontal lines were drawn in it at old levels you'd see a breakout at 115p , 160p and now 230 ish . Looks like it's already broken higher.
My long term view is simple to understand once you get the hang of things. A 5 year chart with a 5 month moving average in orange. Price above moving average . Good and direction of MA also good. MACD where blue is above red . Good and histogram blocks in black are above zero. Good momentum. Orange MA is at 240p so I keep an eye on that. Bookmark the link and you're all set but at the moment it ain't a share for charts .
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=UK%3ARR&x=0&y=0&time=12&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F5%2F2021&freq=3&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=5&uf=0&lf=4&lf2=1&lf3=0&type=64&style=320&size=2&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
Good luck but shorting isn't for me. If I'm trading it's always buying and selling in an ISA or SIPP.
Looked at Trainline and agree with SullysWorld the chart pattern at the moment is chop and more chop but who knows ? See it's on a forward P/E of 22 from what I've just read in a FT link. It needs some earnings progress ?
AIM shares ? Good luck again as there's plenty of FTSE and FTSE 250 shares to make money . Always an opportunity somewhere . I'll throw something in ( not advice) which isn't RR but PSN as we always need houses building. Well out of favour but once interest rates peak these have a chance to recovery . Another for the long term..
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/070715/trading-stage-analysis.asp
5 year chart...now is it bottom building. ?
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=UK%3APSN&x=0&y=0&time=12&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F5%2F2021&freq=3&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=5&uf=0&lf=4&lf2=1&lf3=0&type=64&style=320&size=2&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
I use TA both long term and short term. This is my general guide for a long term share. 5 year view set monthly with a 5 period moving average ( 150 days ). MACD is always a help. So in the case of RR the price is above the 5 moving average in orange . All good. MACD histogram in black is positive above zero. Good . Blue is above red. Good. So since DEC 2022 the trend is looking good. Link can be bookmarked and settings should be saved. Hope that helps.
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=Stock&symb=UK%3ARR&time=12&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F5%2F2021&freq=3&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=5&uf=0&lf=4&lf2=1&lf3=0&type=64&style=320&size=2&x=36&y=4&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
Good site this one....
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ROLLS-ROYCE-HOLDINGS-PLC-4004084/consensus/
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ROLLS-ROYCE-HOLDINGS-PLC-4004084/news-broker-research/
From Svends link look at RR and set this link to 25 years. Same chart pattern ? When things are booming there's a massive overshoot and the first signs of slowing growth , slump. Never fails . I've been using TA for 20 years with much better results than buy and hold. I'll say this which is important . RR are booming and TA probably won't work short term as the share is flavour of the month. In calmer waters I'd use it but at the moment you risk missing out on overnight rallies. It's more useful trading indices which I do all the time.
https://tradingeconomics.com/rr:ln
RR are projecting a period similar to the 2010-2015 where most was in full swing regarding Sales, Profits, Cash etc . If you set the chart to 25 yr or Max it's clear to see. Old high is near £4 and rapid progress has been made this year alone.
https://tradingeconomics.com/rr:ln
At the end of the day very few thought there'd be this kind of progress after the CEO's comments of a burning platform . Maybe these were the cost savings the new team had in mind for a turnaround ?
Anyway back to the 2027 operating profit forecasts of £2.5bn -£2.8bn. Shares in circulation are 8.42bn so the figures would give earnings per share of 29p-33p . Multiply by 15 and the 450p figure isn't unrealistic. If market sentiment is poor I'd expect at least a P/E value of 10 or 300p. That would be down to world markets in a bit of trouble. Things are looking good if the projections are correct.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/operating_profit.asp
Dividends are forecast in a year or so. 8.42bn shares every 1p would cost £84million. At todays price of 260p a 2.5p dividend or 1% would be over £200million. That's why dividends aren't on the radar for now. 1% isn't exactly a great dividend for an income portfolio . Hope that helps. Good luck
I'll guess going off one of the best years 2014 . Order book then was a huge £73bn so it just shows it's needed to progress. Turnover £15bn and Pre tax profit £1.8bn so around 12%. Free cash flow and net cash of £1.9bn. Earnings per share 73p and dividend 23p. All looking good then. Factor in the recent rights issue and call it 4. So that's 20p EPS at best and dividend of 6p.
https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/press-releases/2015/pr-130215-2014-full-year-results.aspx
Todays release is projecting £2.5 -2.8bn profit and margins of 12%-15% by 2027. Again just like 2014 all sails blowing well. To make it attractive let's say 20p earnings will be 30p earnings. Up 50% on 2014. That's a figure RR haven't achieved but it will do for a calculation. If RR trades on at P/E of 15 which is realistic for an engineering company the shares will be 450p . Anymore will have the company trading on really high valuations. We can only guess . If SMR adds more who knows ?
H/L take below
https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/share-research/202311/rolls-royce-sets-mid-term-guidance
Cevodniva ... You need to read the threads and stop jumping to conclusions . The quote is from a previous poster only minutes before I posted. There's no need to insult folk . Maybe its you with the problem. ? It's a forum for ideas and information not a Uni degree. No the wonder people clear off from here. To think of all the information I've tried to provide on here makes me wonder why I bother.
For all LTH, your in very safe hands, it's a long term strategic plan, focused, when it comes to fruition, Ive just read one pundits accessment of £8 and 28p divi by 2030.
260p x 15% growth a year by 2030 is nearly £8. Not unreasonable. Most shareholders in anything would be hoping for that.
8.24bn shares in circulation and dividend of 28p is £2bn . Not sure.
Has anyone here submitted a question for Q&A?
Yes ..I've asked the CEO if the share price will reach £7 by Feb 2025 . He says he'll reply Live around 3pm today. He's also going to tell us who is poster of the year. Stay tuned.
Up where we belong....or Down Down Deeper and Down..
Nice post Taverham highlighting the reality of investing in RR. In the 2000's up to dizzy heights of £10 to £14 then slump to pennies. Well done to others taking the chance of recovery in the last few years. What strikes me is the large holdings posted in RR and risk involved . RR is just 2% of the FTSE and the FTSE itself just 4% of the global large cap index. Work that one out !! . Would be interesting to know what % of posters portfolios are filled with RR shares. Fortunes favour the brave as the say. Good luck.
While on the subject of tea leaves my indicators Stoch, Williams are overbought short term . That's my first alert . If price continues higher and is above the short term moving average in orange then I hold. Today we have a break below currently at 237p . Generally in any short term purchase I'd be selling here and waiting for indicators to hit oversold . What to do as we have an update on 28th. ? That's the question but it doesn't apply to holders in general. If it were the FTSE index I'd be selling regardless. US markets are booming short term but for how long ? All relevant in the game .
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=UK%3ARR&x=0&y=0&time=6&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F5%2F2021&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=9&uf=0&lf=32&lf2=256&lf3=4&type=4&style=320&size=2&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
Booming and still above short term moving average..
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=Index&symb=US%3ADJIA&x=48&y=16&time=6&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=4%2F13%2F2019&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=10&uf=0&lf=32&lf2=256&lf3=0&type=4&style=320&size=2&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11
From the link look at Economic data on right hand side of page. Latest release on 9th NOV.
https://www.iata.org/
From the link below 17 analysts are forecasting 2p dividend for 2024. At present it be a bit less than 1% yield a 245p . Look at the green bars where sales and earnings are forecast higher. Throw in falling debt and RR have a plan that is working.
https://markets.investorschronicle.co.uk/data/equities/tearsheet/forecasts?s=RR.:LSE