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How do shareholders join any of these groups?
Any of these groups getting places regarding the shareholder's actions.
I have around 2Mill shares. Pls anyone let me know how I join POG telegram group
Thanks Lawrence; doesn't surprise me you were banned (lol) - their loss though.
Those places are just echo chambers; no space for genuine dialectical interaction that might yield useful info.
Of which you have been the most productive source; thanks for that.
I wouldn't dream of getting excited with POG; and from you I would only expect gloom and doom; but alas, such is POG.
There is the Pog telegram group, in fact there are several and I've been banned from all of them by two people who essentially set up the groups so they have the option to ban/bar whoever they want to. There are things going on and soon I'll reveal them from my point of view, but don't get excited
Anyone know what's going on with POG?
Are you still around?
You had your fun !
Enlighten me with Ferrexpo.
Different situation from what I am reading.
Tiger16<< 'I guess we all knew the risks as soon as the GOVT set out the sanctions'...'Unless anyone here has any news , of a positive nature , then I see no reason to post on here information that is complete irrelevant ...'
Speak for yourself, some of us were LTH, as the Sanctions exceeded conventional norm's we can challenge the legal basis...
In respect of emergency budget, is it not relevant that the person in charge of FO when the Sanctions were implemented has had their plan's U-turned and credibility questioned??? Does it not improve the conditions for the ombudsman investigation and to work towards a fair impartial judicial review???
Please forgive my ignorance , what does yesterdays emergency budgets have to do with POG and the grave loss we have endured due to the political arena of economics .... I guess we all knew the risks as soon as the GOVT set out the sanctions .....
Unless anyone here has any news , of a positive nature , then I see no reason to post on here information that is complete irrelevant ...
Many thanks
God bless
In the middle of yesterday's emergency budget, Penny (whilst covering for Liz) managed to praise her leadership with joining the EU over Russia response, and state that all of Ukraine's diplomats would be in support of her. It is a shame they have not yet worked out who is voting at the next election. Jeremy Hunt is now racking his brains to be George Osbourne 2.0 looking for savings/efficiencies, so whilst they pay for the pension plans of the Ukraine and destroy the savings of UK shareholders, they will almost certainly be looking to shrink welfare; perhaps they can target disabled people again. However, do not worry now the energy plan is due to be reviewed in April 2023, so there will still be money to keep illegal immigrants in hotels and the life of luxury they have become customed to, and whilst pensioners sit in the dark freezing, Ishmael can still turn the knob up on the radiator whilst watching Netflix in a leather recliner chair...
Is there any helpful info on the telegram chat , please add me @hhayden111
CWWX<< 'Nothing suggested it was still being processed, everything past tense and confirming what was paid etc'
A deal may have been done. However, the deal was dodgy!!! Why was there a hight court meeting post deal??? Have you read the letters from the hearing? Do you think everyone is leaving it there? Did you not see what happened with Ferrexpo?...The stock is still in our broker account, and I also am waiting to hear from OPUS regarding JM.
Regardless, as I mention I am pursuing this with government with aim of Judicial review. What makes me think I can challenge this??? I would say a no confidence vote in the middle of this, followed by critique of growth plans and sacking of chancellor is a good start...
@FK23
From the communications I’ve received from Opus the deal is done. It clearly said the deal was finalised and what had been received.
Nothing suggested it was still being processed, everything past tense and confirming what was paid etc
Me and lyndhurst have something in common besides POG, we were raised in the same part of Camberwell SE London, however that said I'm not too sure why he is concerned that many of us still feel cheated by the war, our government and potential criminal activity. Why Lyndhurst does it concern you that we still feel aggrieved and want to fight on. It's no concern of yours really, is it? I could also ask if you personally feel that way and have put it behind you, why are you still visiting LSE and posting
Wilfred I've plastered my email everywhere lawrence13@sky.com
Wilfred1<< I can't give out Lawrence's email without his ok...Yes, he did give me a recent update, I believe him and the others from the high court have an online group. I think he is looking at a potential petition and some of the others are looking at legal routes. I recommend reading some of the letters from October 5th it gives you some insight into the complexity here.
Lyndhurst1973<< Not sure what your connection is here, whether it's government or BOD, but this is not a normal administration, so I do not need to smell the coffee...You only have to look at Ferrexpo's legal challenge from 2002 to see that these things can even change many years later (although I'm not waiting 20 years); however, here the government intervention and Sanction/governance rules involve many legal infringements. I have my own course of action and an investigation is underway, which I hope to petition to a full judicial review.
hi finders...
Just wondering if you`ve been in contact with Lawrence recently? If so, can you give me a contact email address for him?
Thanks, in advance. best wishes.. wilfred
I’ve saved that message, I’ll come back in the spring when the landscape has changed. Deal isn’t done
It is sad to come back after so many weeks to read some pog investors have yet to smell the coffee.
IT IS OVER. You will not see a penny back in any shape or form.
I know it’s painful, but 4 years of diy investing taught me you can get lucky with ARGO, Novacyt, etc....cash in at the right time for you and get the hell out. It’s a casino, a wolf biding it’s time to bleed you dry.
Move on. There is tomorrow to look forward to rebuild your lives.
GLA
I was reading through the high court judgement and update from October 5th, and I am somewhat confused as to whether everything is final. According to the absolute litany of letters highlighting administrative and legal infringements and errors, it seems hard to believe this is all done and dusted. Are there any more actions scheduled??? Or are we just waiting for paperwork closure???
Source: Wikipedia / Property rights...For all preparing legal cases...
Incomplete property rights allow agents with valuation lower than that of the original owners of economic value to inefficiently expropriate them distorting in this way their investment and effort exertion decisions. When instead, the state is entrusted the power to protect property, it might directly expropriate private parties if not sufficiently constrained by an efficient political process.[47] The necessity of strong protection of property for efficiency has been however criticized by a vast legal scholarship, originated from the seminal contribution by Guido Calabresi and Douglas Melamed.[48]
Calabresi and Melamed argue that in the face of transaction costs sufficiently sizeable to prevent consensual trade, legalized private expropriation in the form of, for instance, liability rules can be welfare-increasing. To elaborate, when property is fully protected, some agents with valuation higher than that of the original owners will be unable to legally acquire value because of sizable transaction costs. When the protection of property is weak instead, low-valuation potential buyers inefficiently expropriate original owners. Hence, a rise in the heterogeneity of the potential buyers' valuations makes inefficient expropriation by low-valuation potential buyers be more important from a social welfare point of view than inefficient exclusion from trade and so induces stronger property rights. Crucially, this prediction survives even after considering production and investment activities and it is consistent with a novel dataset on the rules on the acquisition of ownership through adverse possession and on the use of government takings to transfer real property from a private party to another private party prevailing in 126 jurisdictions.
keep going Lawrence - thanks for all your efforts trying to raise this. I fear our MPs and ogvernment don't give a flying f&&k like but one can only try and for that good on ya Sir
Sent this to my MP yesterday
lawrenceTJ13@sky.com
To:Thomas GUYTON-DAY,Sally-Ann HART
Wed, 5 Oct at 20:46
I see your leader Liz Truss made a speech about growth , to enable growth so people can live their lives and their dreams. How odd I thought when her very governments non nuanced Russian sanctions destroyed the lives and dreams of so many British Share holders.
Were you two there? I hope in one of the myriad of side meetings you at least mentioned us
All the best
Lawrence Jenkins
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