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I gave TonyB a shed load of coffee, coke, wizz and Es to come on here with Mr 100K again but he seems to have gone clubbing instead
want to be out of this over the next 48 hrs Trying to save your arse Petty don't want you coming back as pettyShipman Onion has Petty given you the safe word?
Antibiotics Numpty?
just an inkling folks but news in next 48 hours !!!
You're an Idiom
I agree, the outright win figure will probably be somewhere above 1 in 5 taking into account dropped cases and those not reported - although to be honest, we don't know if they've not been reported due to Respondent embarrassment of claimant win, or purely confidentiality agreements.
I know mate.. I will feel a tad responsible if they find Onion fully peeled off in his front room or drowned in the kitchen Coroner's Verdict: Death by OxTail Stewing
cant say that, but ask yourself if you arrived in the same situation of either rs rab or Darwin ,. lets just use Darwin as I've followed Darwin. Darwin are all about making money, part of their huge successes is knowing when and how to trade. Lets put it this way. if you were Darwin why would you agree the sp's that they have. Bear in mind rs is bound on info lol. Darwin don't gamble. they make. Darwin would need to know that they will be able to sell above the average, whether that be prior to their announced entry and/or after
Adamsrups - So you are saying he did it on purpose to inflate the SP in order to get a good deal with Darwin and the CLN holders? Never! Lol
I think he has made no error in judgement. He needed funds, he needed Darwin and rab. These kind of people don't fund money without assurance that they will somehow make whether the case is a win or a lose. That's the way it works from what I've watched in so many shares, even those where I'm not invested yet have followed. You will ask the question so why don't I trade on that. It took me a long while to see the patterns of placings, fundings and the relation to sp movements regarding rns support for the fundees, hopefully one day I will have the courage of my convictions and not follow bb hype and feel I cant be right this time. Its a bad world, bods don't ever come out losing, even if you do. Those funding have different times for info (prior) otherwise there would only be small suckers to fund aims and there would be none. Small suckers are needed in their thoussands, each and every year that much is true. Each and every bod with rns of we care about shareholder value and and are confident etc etc We are not the only ones to have statements such as very near future ans rumour of asset being sold to fund settlement followed by a placing and dips. Others of course have to use different alluding or snippets of good news as they are simply more than a court case and have more things available. I think this is probably going to reward us all here, when, I have no idea, probably neither does rs. But rest assured if there are losers , we will be the only ones.
Many months ago I said the longer this goes on the better it will be many idiots on here said no way well here we Are if we have lost we would have known by now! So this is still a win or loose in a big way and I am in till the end at times I could have taken good profits but I am in till the end So stop winging if you cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen No more idiots on here please GL all
This is getting tedious now....timeframes are getting ridiculous, confidence is waining, volume is rubbish....JUST TELL US FFS
I don't understand what is to be gained by giving these misguided deadlines. The funding is there and the result will come one way or another. He doesn't have to please the shareholders so why bother trying?
Makes 2 of us Mike! Shead has made 2 major errors of judgement and should have kept stum if he hasn't a clue (which clearly he hasnt). Why give defined time limits; open to interpretation or not? The SP clearly shows that share holders are losing confidence in the big man. Very near future has been and gone IMO although now it has technically expired the verdict could literally come anyday. *yawn* been saying that for years now *sigh*
Yes and It's the same stuff week in week out... It does beg the question why some people are even in this stock. Really will be glad when this is finally over
I would question sometimes why Petty is even invested in Oxus... If he truly thinks that we only have 20% chance of winning and that if we do is only expecting 8-10p... or is there a hidden motive maybe?? .
Petty you have got everybody on suicide watch wouldn't be surprised if the Samaritans website doesn't go down How the hell is the coroner going to know if it was your posts or asphyxia *ank at Onions inquest
In addition, the 80% of cases where the respondant wins includes cases where the claimant dropped the case or where jurisdiction was not established. Oxus has jurisdiction and has progressed the case. So the 1/5 success figure is very misleading
Ta, and good luck Castaway
Yes, fair point Jeremiah, and thanks for bringing that up... I agree that the unpublished awards would tend to favour the claimant - with award amount unknown - but also some may not have been disclosed because of pre-existing confidentiality agreements. This technical "Losing"...or less than 20% claim. For hat its worth, I'm quite happy with a "Loss", as long as it takes the share price higher than it is at the moment.
must have been one of your posts which directed me to the past cases and from what I read I agree with your point of view. Hence why I said I would be happy with 10p per share, (which still a multibag from here). On balance I feel OXS will win, and if there was any natural justice in the world should be awarded a $!bn - unfortunately there isn't so back to 10p and anything above is a bonus for me. I have been buying on the dips and now this is one of my largest shareholdings, so I am not at all negative about the outcome. The decision is due now
"We do not know the outcome of approximately 40% of the ICSID cases because they were either settled or the outcome was not published" (the Credibility Consulting pdf) So we only know that 80% of the remaining 60% of known awards were respondent wins - that's 48%. One might assume the majority of unpublished awards were in favour of the claimant company, and the respondent country were loath to advertise their shortcomings? So perhaps 80% or more of that 40% could be construed as a respondent win? Whatever, if the unpublished awards were factored in it would surely paint a different picture?
...and Onion...that should have read 0 to $240 million...not 0 to $240 ! Hope you realised that ! :o)
Onion - please don;t jump in or out on my say so...but you ought to read as much as you can and then make your own decision... There is still a chance this could be a big win. I'm just trying to gauge in reality, how big a chance that could be. The best way is to read the original arbitration document, look at the respective lawyers, read our old Annual reports, talk to people, look at past cases (particularly in Uzbekistan), look at payout averages, then play the game whichever way you feel fits your own mindset.
Yep, walked down due to Darwin, maybe RAB and lack of news.. people probably taking out small amounts and putting in elsewhere..Does not affect final outcome. I agree that Stats aren't the be all and end all - but they are really only one of the ways we have here of judging the overall picture. Since we do not know the Uzbek's case , we can only look at past cases, personnel involved, and Stats, and try to make an overarching choice that each one of us feels comfortable with.