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Pretty sure there is something here big chunks being shown as bought posted after hours two days on the trot. HSV does not do volume historically , market size still shows as 6000. I will stand by my £3 at christmas prediction. Either that or they are subject to some kind of private funding take over. They denied it a few weeks ago but where theres smoke there is fire and a couple of weeks is a long time in the city
Big out of hours buy to balance the books , i think it was a bump just to scare those poeple trying to make a quick quid who didn't get in at the bottom. Maybe I am over confident but I'm going to say £3 by Christmas.
Why the drop, so ****ed off its as though the MM just aimed for my stop order. ******s
A bit of profit taking today do you think? Still plenty of buyers though which is a good sign.
And still it rises, I reckon the Market Makers are shaking out the smaller holders now so they can make a killing when either there is a MBO or a bid or those big institutions take it upon themselves to own this cash cow privately and kick out the small investor. Or maybe there is just a long term plan to hold onto the stock themsleves as a growth stock. Some one must have an opinion apart from me and Gringosmith
Gringosmith , yes I agree these are significant holdings IMO, half the company in the hands of institutions says to me they have far from cut HSV adrift in troubling times in fact they have a controlling share really...which makes me think that the institutions know they should be hanging on in there and for good reasons . Invesco having increased their holding too , I bet they know damn well what is going to happen. I wish I had bought more heavily at 140p now of course , the benefit of hindsight eh! Mind you they just keep on ticking up a couple of pence at a time , not making any headlines but just look at the performance over the last few months...they know they bloody know!!
If you check the company info page of HSV's corporate website it shows 50.52% of shares being held by Invesco/Institutions. Quite significant?
Just checked back to April and Invesco held about 20% whereas at the end of August it had risen to nearly 30% - don't know it they want all of it or just see it as a high growth stock.
Yes I am also surprised by the continuing rise in sp. Bought on a tip from Motley Fool on 28/8 and have seen 9% gain - just wish all by shares were doing the same :( Will we see a dip over the next few days before heading upwards again? Hopefully there will be some positive news on the "non-takeover! soon.
well yet again more sellers but yet it rises again....so we have rumour of a take over which is denied, sort of. No update on the FSA investigation , good set of results , positive dividend payment , more sellers than buyers and a price that has risen strongly and consistently over the last few weeks - anyone got a view on why / how. Of course when I say more sellers than buyers , some one has to buy stock that is sold, that some one is of the market makers...they set the prices and are willing to pay the holders of the stock the price they quote and they are doing so. So are the MM's short of stock and need to balance the books by shaking out some small holders, or or or or , do they know in advance that positive news is heading this way and they are stocking up expecting some strong buying and they will be selling at a premium.... one way or another short of a catastrophe I read good news on the horizon for HSV because the MM's don't often get it too badly wrong (crossing fingers , touching wood etc) Any one got another opinion?
Ex div was 30/11 last year and paid 3/1 this year. would expect similar this year after 1st half results to end of september. Nothing to back up takeover rumours - sorry.
thinking about investing, when is the divi date ? and takeover likely ?
more sellers again today and yet the price rises...
FTSE up 1.9% / HSV up 3.6 and more sellers than buyers. Word has it there is no truth behind the buyout rumours...but then again? Whatever the outcome this is more than likely going to yield over 5% dividend and has more potential upside in sp.
well some one somewhere must know what is going on here , up 3.5%ish and volume is not massive by any stretch of the imagination, makes me think market may be either short of stock or are pricing in some good news.
Well although HSV have made no comment about the possibility of a private equity buyout Invesco have increased their holding to the point where they almost have effective control of the company or are oblliged to make some kind of bid. Which would suggest they may have some kind of plan to be this exposed to a company. I am far from expert but it seems like this is a cash cow most cash cows end up in the hands of private equity or the very wealthy...also HSV does not need to be heavily in debt by way of share issues as they use affinity partnerships to promote business rather than buyout of existing businesses. Do the numbers friends this looks like a winner to me.
I see Invesco recently increased their holding in HSV to 29.08% on 23rd August. Another reason to buy in. 3% rise in sp so far today ;)
Tipped in The Motley Fool after close yesterday who rate them as share of the month. They believe much of the potential fines and bad stuff has already been factered into the sp and they have taken the correct steps to tun around the business into a quality service. Plus they are growing their overseas business with foreign utilitiy companies as partners. Add to that the reasonable dividend and that is enough for me to buy in this morning at 216p Good luck to all who hold HSV.
looks ike some large out of hours purchases reported here!! something must be going on big buys still at this price
I called HSVtoday, they have no update so I guess we are all still waiting. Wish I had bought in more too 3000 doesn't seem enough now
Thanks mate, I got in at 140 to, but not enough.
I assume it is still on going the last report from HSV was that there was an investigation that would take several monmths and that was in May I think. I had planned to call HSV today to ask for an update in case I had missed something "Anna Maughan, Company Secretary.Tel: 01922 426262"....but didn't get round to it. I checked the FSA website but found nothing of much use there either. The price has shifted significantly since that was announced my guess is that there are not many secrets that are really well kept and the market is often second guessing so my gut says the market knows the news is not too bad or someone does and has been picking up cheap stock... like I did in the 140p's. So on paper I am quids in at the moment...touch wood etc.
Is that investigation with the fsa still ongoing? Any news on it?
Rockhard - this has been a good solid rise so far - obvioulsy still the FSA involvement potential but there must be some good sentiment or strong buying out there to force the rise, or stock shortage even. I still think something is afoot. I dont know what but they make money , good turnover, ambitious USA expansion = cash cow = private equity or MBO . That is just my naive assessment of the situation and that they are historically cheap.
in at 1.51since may = my veiw was 2£ by oct , happily passing that price over a week ago. looking at a 35-40% rise now = dont want to b greedy but early 2.50s by oct is looking poss. gla