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Started: Itsalottery123, 18 Jun 2024 15:47
Last post: Tuffax, 18 Jun 2024 16:32
Great question , if only we had a resident genius to answer it but he seems to have sulked off . There definitely needs to be some explaining done by this board of clowns and the way they treat their shareholders with contempt is beyond a joke .
The £1mm off market IR loan for a HY company, a crop, another equity raise!
Started: PokerSticks, 17 May 2024 08:46
Last post: Pidster, 17 Jun 2024 19:25
his is like a *** butt rolling on the floor that never even got lit !
I am not an expert on boats and boating, but it's obvious that this one has a hole and is sinking.
In Greece, medical cannabis is illegal to import and can only be domestically produced. Greece only issued its first prescription Feb 17th this year.
Following this, HELD switched tracks to target the now-open Greek domestic market, which has higher wholesale prices of €16.50/g:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/hellenic-dynamics_greece-medicalcannabis-patientcare-activity-7196442306525224962-Qxnp/
HELD have a €1m 3.5% loan paying out in the next few weeks, likely based on the validity of that business plan:
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/HELD/long-term-loan-agreement-f3vklkfkhz9o1ej.html
I remain confident that HELD is well placed for success.
Screeching every time the SP drops is noise, not research.
If any of you actually own stock in this company, you are doing your own positions harm.
0.62p in the horizon!
.."That is, assuming any of it is true enough to put is writing..."
HELD could have listed on AIM (which requires /entails oversight by a NoMad) or gone for a full listing, which is also intrusive/demanding,
It chose the basic listing instead, which requires much less oversight.
DYOC (Draw your own conclusions).
IMO
Started: tom2468, 4 Jun 2024 17:56
Last post: Magoo247, 17 Jun 2024 09:26
HELD has the same effect on me as the drug they're trying to grow - it makes me sick !
Where’s blowster/investing ‘genius’
Free 🍺 coming ⚠️
Any news would be big news 😂
Big news tomorrow ⚠️
Started: JohnnyLawrence, 15 Dec 2022 20:53
Last post: juyamah, 7 Jun 2024 21:45
Another post from the past, share price was 18p then, reading it again isn't all he said so obvious now...Oh yes.. he was also a Muppet..
Can they grow good quality? Does that matter? I don’t know? Maybe? Some patients like good quality. But maybe that doesn’t matter for you. Why is their Master Grower attaching his name to grows all over the place? Has he put one product onto the UK market? The German market, any market or is he just a legacy grower who has never passed a test on the European Medical market.
We usually work off clones and Veg separately from our flower area so technically the Veg/Flower times can cross over each other once you are up and running.
On their site: “All dried flowers to be produced in phase one of operations have been presold to licensed distributors – initially in Europe’s largest medical cannabis market of Germany with further distribution lines into other European markets underway.”
This is impossible. Show me one contract. You can’t contract with a company that doesn’t have an export license. That is the first thing they would ask to see. You can write an LOI. A MOU. And with that, you all can wipe your butts. It is worthless and exactly how the Canadians fooled their early investors. Do they have EUGMP, Do they have GACP. No, they are a Deck. You guys just invested in a deck with a large defunct storage facility. Deal with it and don’t get mad at me for asking a couple simple questions, just to show you guys that you are stretching here and at the moment have nothing but a pipe-dream. But good luck. Going back to my Christmas Tree.
Hello ProbablyonPoint, Thanks for your note. I may be a pathetic nobody to you and yes, this may be my first post on this site. “Tell us Johnny what experience do you have? None. How many plants have you grown under lights to know how long it takes? 0
Why do you assume these things about me PoP?
Have you really done your due diligence? Not just reading. These guys can write whatever they want. They can even post stock pictures of their greenhouse that isn’t even their greenhouse. It is misleading and as a public company they are liable for misrepresentation. But they don’t care because they are not an ethical group. Any company that needs to stack its deck with all these random people is “overcompensating”
Who else do you know is doing 6 turns per year? In a greenhouse = almost impossible. In N. Greece, def impossible, especially without massive heating bills and heavy lights.
What is the size of just the Germany market? Tell me please. What % will HellsBells take of that entire market to keep your numbers working? This is where the tough questions begin. They are called a Reality Check.
I have visited multiple cultivations in the US and Europe and know how they work and know how much money it takes to set them up and operate them and I also know how long it takes to dial-in the facility to produce quality that passes tests, as well as quality that customers want.
They had $2.5m and now raised $1m. To renovate some old bunker that’s run down to show on any pics. This is not serious. A cultivation and production area is closer to €10-20m to build so this just smells of a massive down raise where all the RickyBigDicks such as yourself will get smoked by dilution.
The metric that was common in Canada was basically based on output capacity x’s market price x’s some multiple of Revs.
That is what Ricky is doing here. So I see it as the same valuation mistake and the same shyster capital raise tactics as the snake salesmen in Canada. Now look at how those stocks have done and look at how much inventory is being destroyed or sitting for years. The fact that you guys are so mad at me for bringing up talking points tells me that you are just paid pushers or really thick or desperate traders trying to push your way into an industry that doesn’t have many options. I agree that it is and will be a great industry.
What did your friend say about the facility? Is it built-out? Do they have their rooms built out, do they have their EU GMP processing area built out or just designed. Do they have a water filtration system, propagation/mom rooms? Do they have the greenhouse updated. Why aren’t they growing yet? Why are they all in London? Can companies now export flower from Greece because initially it was just extracts. Has one company ever exported from Greece? Why did the first up and running company in Greece call me last year to buy their facility? What is going on down in Greece Ricky? Ask your friend.
JohnnyLawerence who are you? Some pathetic nobody who has decided to grace us with his first ever post. Yes I've done my reading and spoken to someone who has been to the site. This looks nothing like the Canadian pattern so keep reaching. Tell us Johnny what experience do you have? None. How many plants have you grown under lights to know how long it takes? 0. Please go back to your Christmas tree and stop wasting our time.
JL erm 1 post says it all really . Ok you won’t be buying in , plenty of others will . Medical cannabis is the way forward. Come back in 5 years and then see the share price .
Started: Handygandhi, 4 Jun 2024 15:02
Last post: Handygandhi, 4 Jun 2024 15:02
Last year on 6 June we were treated to a business update.
Here’s hoping for a repeat.
Nb - good post Oversold.
Started: Handygandhi, 3 Jun 2024 19:11
Last post: HallsWorthy, 4 Jun 2024 10:24
Good post juyamah, shows how easy research can be but sadly also shows how blinkered investors can be if you highlighted all that and were ignored
MONIMAN
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Yes Juyamah, it does indeed look like a scam company designed to mislead investors. Amazing what you can get away with by getting a London Listing..Bernie Madoff and Robert Maxwell would be very proud of this 'scam' it seems. JMO Adyor!!!
Repeating what the CEO tells you is hardly doing your own research. and repeating the BS isn't an excuse.
At the time I looked at this and read the details of the placing for a company valued at £32 million after my son in law tried to persuade me to invest part of my pension pot into, I found a company with no history of producing or selling any form of medical Marijuana with their only assets being a rented field in Rural Greece and about £300k in funds raised through a finance deal.
The vast majority of shares are held by several shareholders who do not seem to have invested any cash at all in the company, and looking closer at these 'investors' none seem to have any business experience of note.
I told my step son to sell his holding which he had invested £1000 in for £740 which if he had held would be worth about
£75.
it took me about 20 minutes to discover that all the photos on the Hellenic webpage were downloaded from the internet and when I posted this information I got dogs abuse...and called an Idiot.
I've waited a year to see how its panned out, and its just as I expected but if you say you were taken in by the CEO statements that's no defence, a mere 20 minutes of looking you would have found what I found..
Started: juyamah, 31 May 2024 10:37
Last post: Tuffax, 3 Jun 2024 11:39
where is our resident genuis today , parody/*******75 no idiotic theories from you lately ?
Bernie Madoff and Robert Maxwell would be proud of this don't you think? 🤔 . How on earth do 🤡 🤡 still get away with this in the 21st century? 🤔 Makes you wonder why the London Stock Exchange is falling apart and companies are fleeing to disassociate themselves from the corrupt UK financial markets. JMO ADYOR!
Go back and read the posts from May and June of last year , most noticeable is how so many of the rampers have now vanished.
Funny thing is that at todays price it almost looks fair value for its assets, I wouldn't be surprised to see it ramped back up to maybe 4p, a final chance for some to get out.
I'll continue to give it a miss though, but I do enjoy re-reading last years posts.
Started: UraHoldings, 13 Jun 2023 08:35
Last post: bunsenburner123, 29 May 2024 13:08
Message for investingpleb aka ‘genius’ I believe now is the time to buy, not as you did at 4p, 3.5p 3p, etc etc
I remember this share from back when it listed, are you saying they still haven't produced any product?!
What does the FCA stand for?
If something looks like a scam, then it probably is a scam is the old saying I believe?
Anyone else remember this post, less than a year ago.
I'm very pleased to say I was one of the 'Muppets'..
price since then down from 11.5p to 1.5p that's - 86%
and still not enough product cultivated to fill a single Rizla paper.. lol
Started: moniman, 21 May 2024 10:55
Last post: moniman, 21 May 2024 17:11
Every day that passes without comments or Director buys makes this look more like a scam set up don't you think? It's amazing what the FCA let main list companies get away with in the UK. No wonder a huge amount of properly run companies are moving to the US as they don't want to be associated with the collapse of the UK stock exchange. Pension funds have almost abandoned their new investments in UK listed companies in favour of US markets. Says it all really! Adyor!
https://www.standard.co.uk/business/london-stock-market-shares-crisis-new-york-financial-centre-city-exchange-lseg-fse-100-b1147995.html
Have to do another share consolidation at this rate
We’ve all been sold a dream here and what we’ve got is a shambles and a scam ! The FCA should look into this company immediately! It’s going under before a bleeding plant is grown ! Purely shocking from the board !!
None of the BOD are buying shares in the open market despite the 98% fall in the SP that they have caused...'Inactions' clearly speak much louder than Words!!!! What are they afraid of???
Started: Handygandhi, 20 May 2024 18:45
Last post: InvestorPA, 21 May 2024 17:11
Tuffax, the Genius has done a disappearing act like he always does!
"I'm here to pump up the price! 😎"... "oh no, my pump is failing 😱"...abracadabra🪄.... "and now I'm gone! 💨"
Where is our resident genius today to enlighten us with his pearls of wisdom
I’ve got no choice but to hold - investments in held can down as well as down !!!!
Like many posters on here, I’m under water with my investment, but the fundamentals are still there, and I’m happy to hold.
Started: AmyStake, 20 May 2024 13:50
Last post: extrader, 20 May 2024 18:35
The EU grant came through in Jan 2024 (abt Euro 300K) for a project that .." aims to identify the critical technology gaps and invent, optimise, assess and demonstrate the key enablers for optimised Artificial Intelligence ("AI").."
What became of the Greek grant?
This is what was said in July 2023....RNS about the robust acton to preserve capital, not to dilute shareholders and yet 3 months later the company is totally potless and getting an awful loan from Riverfort...someone appears to be telling porkies don't you think? 🙄
Davinder Rai, CEO of Hellenic Dynamics, commented:
"Given our concerted effort to preserve capital and build a platform for growth for shareholders, as per our announcement dated 6 June 2023, we have previously made significant savings in the procurement of construction and equipment, thus we are in a position to repay this CLN without any dilution to our shareholders. Further to the Company's previous announcement dated 13 June 2023, the Company has also made an application for two grants both domestically in Greece and at EU level along with entering into advanced discussion with a well-known financial provider to support the acceleration of our contract cultivation PODs by way of a capital financing instrument.".........
.."People are clearly forgetting the 1m EUR loan over 15 years at 3.5%, this is accessible in June.."
H75/IG
We weren't told when this loan would be available when it was first announced in April, we learned of the midJune target date only after the emergency placing a fortnight later :
.."The proceeds of the Placing will be used for general working capital purposes up until the €1 million loan facility, announced by the Company on 22 April 2024, is received by the Company, which is EXPECTED to occur during mid-June 2024."
Then last week we learned this, about the earlier Riverfort facility ($315K principal + interest still o/s) :
.." Under the terms of the [Riverfort] Facility, the Company was required to maintain sufficient headroom in its share authorities to be able to satisfy the outstanding balance of the Facility by way of the issue of new ordinary shares in the Company, if not repaid in cash."
HELD has implicitly acknowledged that the Euro 1 m loan may not arrive, or may not arrive in time, because it has agreed [= been told by Riverfort it MUST] call a meeting 'to be held no later than 9 August 2024 [ Ed.: ie 90 days grace] in order to seek to pass resolutions to grant the necessary authority free of pre-emption to enable the Company to meets its obligations, unless the Outstanding Balance has been paid in cash, pursuant to the covenants in the Facility and to provide the directors with suitable capacity to allot shares as required from time to time..."
In plain English : HELD is calling a meeting [at Riverfort's insistence, my guess] to get authority to issue more shares in case Riverfort isn't paid off by the Euro 1 million loan.
Riverfort clearly doesn't share your confidence that the new loan will come through.
Now ask yourself : why would a new lender agree to disburse (unless unavoidably required to do so), when 1/3rd of its money would be going to pay off another creditor, not to be productively invested in the business ? And - given the visible, known uncertainty - why would an insurance company agree to be on the hook for Euro 1 million for a measly 25K insurance premium?
'Splain that to me like I'm a 7 year-old.
GLA
This isn't a big fat Greek wedding, it's gradually turning into a big fat Greek scam don't you think? Oh dear never mind, where have all the rampers gone?
Two things guaranteed in life:
1. Taxes
2. Investing genius calls it drastically wrong lol
Started: Magoo247, 17 May 2024 17:12
Last post: moniman, 19 May 2024 18:30
I think if this company was listed on one of the main exchanges in the USA the SEC would be looking into it considering all of the statements and dealings going on in the past 12 months that have resulted in investors from the IPO losing over 90% of their investment capital. The UK FCA are a complete was of time that is why companies are leaving the UK in droves, it's so bad the chancellor is panicking. JMO Adyor!
https://www.standard.co.uk/business/london-stock-market-shares-crisis-new-york-financial-centre-city-exchange-lseg-fse-100-b1147995.html
Raj a lot people are waiting for you to die before returning. Please just think about it.
Lol, handgandhi and a few other rampers have suddenly changed their tune now they realise they've been had by Held management...no rules on LSE, it's as bad as AIM..no wonder hundreds of companies are quitting UK listings...the LSE exchanges are finished imho.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl5k58x9g83o
I agree with you Magoo.
Such a convincing pitch from our CEO, but no apologies for his failure to deliver.
Promises broken, as is my faith in him.
I think you are underestimating our genius advisor...May I present Investing Genius and his amazing crystal balls 🔮 🔮 ...
Started: techguru91, 17 May 2024 08:06
Last post: bunsenburner123, 17 May 2024 08:45
Investing’Genius’ picked another cracker 😂
To be honest i was quite encouraged by the RF deal announced yesterday. It stops any conversions or further dilutions until at least September, and in the meantime the plan is to pay off and terminate the facility when the bank loan lands in June.
So if that happens i'd expect a huge rerate from these levels
Started: David6576, 16 May 2024 12:41
Last post: moniman, 16 May 2024 19:22
Just to add...the Share Price doesn't drop by over 90% in just over a year if the market believes all the positive statements from a company. The SP to a large degree is a reflection the market puts on its confidence in the company and how it is being run by the management team, so make your own minds up. JMO Adyor!
Let's get real. This is a small punt for me from recent lows. The reason I'm being very very negative is just because in my humble opinion, investors have been potentially mislead to some degree by the statements coming from the company in regards to its finances for more than a year amongst other things. This isn't a real problem for me, but some PI's may not have the funds to lose when they thought the company was making lots of positive statements regards financial position and crop cultivation etc. As per my previous comments, make your own mind up, but to many rampers on here (long since gone) have added to the nonsense coming from the company. This is just my opinion but do your own research and read all of the RNS's especially those regarding the healthy state of the finances and not wanting to dilute existing shareholders etc. JMO Adyor!
" The news and price will do the talking in the weeks and months ahead..."
As it has up to now.
But you've consistently misread/ misunderstood the news.
Can you really not see that YOUR talking hasn't been helpful?
' A period of silence for reflection would be welcome'
AFAICS
GLA
Best to ignore him. Impossible to have a sensible discussion with that moron. 24/7 trolling. Its embarrassing
Moniman you are trying very hard lol. VERY hard to deramp anything even slightly positive.
Interesting... There was a 3 day window where you suddenly went into ramp mode. But you sold i guess and then reverted back to deramping
You must spend every hour of every day on here. Quite depressing and funny at the same time
Ultimately what we say on these boards have very little affect. The news and price will do the talking in the weeks and months ahead
Started: moniman, 16 May 2024 12:32
Last post: moniman, 16 May 2024 12:32
More Smoke and Mirrors, what's that about a 10% Fee and what about added interest on the $450,000 drawn down so far, all very dubious and confusing yet again.
Last post: AmyStake, 16 May 2024 12:20
RF defered until Sept, so we can relax and forget about any more conversions or dilutions. That in itself is mega bullish
Whats even better is the fact that when the 1m EUR lands in June the RF CLN will be terminated and paid off. Makes complete sense given the RF loan is VERY expensive and the 1m EUR loan is at 3.5%
This is great news and another stepping stone to the turnaround here. Market will wake up soon
Started: David6576, 16 May 2024 11:44
Last post: undersold, 16 May 2024 12:05
If 'no more dilution' were a stock, i'd short it.
Next excuse is mergers and acquisitions :)
*my general sentiment, not an opinion about HELD.
This dropped from 20p and strong reversal time.Great news.No more dilution.
Started: quantumfuture, 15 May 2024 13:28
Last post: extrader, 16 May 2024 11:51
RNS just out.
GLA
'of the 10,850,000 Placing Shares in respect of the Placing. It is expected that the Placing Shares will be admitted to trading and dealings will commence on the LSE on or around 14 May 2024 ("Admission"). '
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/HELD/placing-issue-of-equity-1p7ra29qt2q8014.html
Today is the 16th, and the ask price has dropped to 2p.
I guess that means the shares were added to market this morning...
and we now have a 10m sellwall to push through before we can see a higher SP again?
I'm no pro/level2 investor though, this is just conjecture without access to the order book.
Bernie Madoff and Robert Maxwell would be proud of this set up. JMO
As I said & expected, HELD locking in the 2p+ investors and taking them lower
Scammers like Bernie Madoff don't usually keep investors up to date do they?
Started: AmyStake, 15 May 2024 10:38
Last post: moniman, 15 May 2024 12:47
Unfortunately the way the company has been run, with 'half truths' smoke and mirrors to put things politely, Dav and the BOD will probably do very way personally and financially, but I doubt that the current shareholders will benefit unless Dav and the BOD create some sore of miracle from what is a financial car crash imho. Ever since the Mr xx's pulled their cash out last July and slightly later, the company finances have collapsed, but what if anything did those individuals know that was not in the public domain is the big question? JMO Adyor!!!
Started: techguru91, 14 May 2024 14:58
Last post: bunsenburner123, 14 May 2024 15:58
Here come the sells locking In the 2p’ers
Think we can retest that 3p area shortly if we get anything positive from the company
Rumours of RF facility being terminated would probably cause a ultibagger from here given what happened over at SAR
Started: AmyStake, 14 May 2024 08:29
Last post: bunsenburner123, 14 May 2024 14:34
Investing Genuis 😂😂😂😂😂
Book does feel like its consolidateda fter the drop and the small placing, and is ready to run higher from here
Started: techguru91, 10 May 2024 11:36
Last post: moniman, 10 May 2024 12:05
You are very brave...Bernie Madoff and Robert Maxwell appear to have been mere amateurs. JMO
Feels a bit better today and would expect bottom to now be in. Hoping for a run back to 3p in the first instance
Started: AmyStake, 10 May 2024 11:28
Last post: AmyStake, 10 May 2024 11:28
Some chunky buys coming and pushing the price up slightly
Started: AmyStake, 10 May 2024 07:59
Last post: AmyStake, 10 May 2024 07:59
Come on lets get back above 2p. Were some decent bids around yesterday and buyers in background
Started: Handygandhi, 9 May 2024 10:19
Last post: Pidster, 9 May 2024 20:52
So what ! Big bloxdy deal !
Correction - 09:57
The 09:07 trade was a buy!