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Q3 IMS released on 16th October. A while away, but should hopefully be very positive. Should be a catalyst for the shares if positive.
you are right as I was reading Sep 5 figures, thinking it was unchanged on Monday. Just goes to show though that he mm's have pulled down Man's price by over 5% for a 0.3% blip in AHL on despite AHL being up 1.3% and still over hwm and all GLG flagship funds having increased last week. ..................................(As the information regarding AHL was not made available till after close yesterday then where did mm's get the information from, were they acting on insider information?).
Wasn't it up 1.3%? Still , a good week, plus all glg units returned positive performance. FT read very bullishly-it actually mentioned a sharp rise in inflows to AHL Evolution in particular...so much so that it has been soft closed to new money. Also, massively outperforming other hedge funds. Therefore , we're down again this morning .
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ae30931a-3747-11e4-b45c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3CpUQ9rxc Makes the arranging of share prices by mm's yesterday to accommodate their shorting, (in complete contrast to the performance of Man), criminal in my eyes.. Certainly so as the only evidence of significant bias regarding the selling v buying, was shown on this web site yesterday evening as 4 buys for every 3 sells. Also.................................................................................... AHL held on to its gains at $ 1.3124 so made 1.6% on week............... All eight GLG Flagship fund had an increase last week, so GLG continues to improve............... Plus the rare event of a Director' buying, even if it only with his divi.. . . . . . . . . . .. . . ................................. .. ...................................................................................................................................................................................... The continuing question is why the Regulators are allowing the mm's to so unfairly arrange share prices to suit the mm's own ends The market does not belong to them.
Have you seem the FT story from yesterday , Fatlad? It's a good read. Not sure how much longer they will hold the sp down...
Forgot to add that there is no sign that sells are that much or anymore than buys.
have the mm's pulled Man's price back down from its high of 123.9p to 120.80p this morning. Can't see it as being due to the Scottish Ref as Lloyds is 1.5% up. Cant be the forex as the £ is holding steady against the $ and the Euro and significantly up against the Yen Can't be its performances as AHL well into hwm for all of this H2 making increased profits for its investors and Man. GLG continues to improve. Numeric and Pine Grove now installed. Very puzzling. Could it that mm's like the destitute Espirito Santo Investment Bank, (which acts as market maker for Man, ref Simon Jessop Reuters May 29), are continuing their shorting to make up their bankruptcy losses. If so, is the shorting a successful companies not why they became bankrupt?
another purchase on the horizon???
why is this being issued?
Thanks dduck, 1.6% up on week. How in the world does the price of Man Group not stand out as being fiddled down from what it should be?
up 0.6% to 1.3124
I agree it's a mystery, my only guess would be that now is a good time for all those who bought in in the 70's and 80's to get out and realise 50% profit which is keeping us down at the moment. If we can string together some other good weeks then we shouldn't have a problem but we are most definitely heading in the right direction now...
Should have said 'worth a few pence more on Monday am in respect to the new financial situation' in last post, However, AHL only needs to remain thereabouts to be in high fees territory. GLG needs to continue its revival and it should be expected that their will be considerable influence from Numeric Not forgetting the other new acquisition Pine Grove. Beyond belief that the now vastly improved Man Group is not over 150p
have a feeling that this will cost quite a few pence more to buy on Monday as the mm's will jump up the price before we get a chance. GLG just needs to keep up their last two weeks performance for a good while. As for AHL, it has been making some performance fees since at least June 30th and as you know AHL has kept on improving forr the whole of H2 so far right up to this £1.3046 high. Also, today Numeric has been accepted as part of Man Group. I'm hopeful 150p anon as Man appears to be performing better than at any time since before 2007. (The high days).
Yes, impressive performance. Recently topped back up to 30k shares. If AHL can keep in this territory for a large part of H2 there should be some decent performance fees. If GLG can get a modicum of decent performance and the two US acquisitions contribute good earnings , we should surely see some uplift soon in the share price ?!
Wipes out those two day losses and some
I tell you what though it feels like someone knows something we dont, another decent rise, it can't be off the market, they must have an understanding of what the majority of our investments are in...
Just a blip (-0.2) but second one in a row, long time since that happened.
AHL funds at hwm and GLG again improving last week, and the latest acquisitions now embedded, shouldn't Man's price should be over 130p now?
Now the Est Nav is $1.2798. (I make it a 1.25 drop, however, the opposite happened on Aug 26 when 0.8 rise was associated with the result but actually it was a 1.27 rise). Funny maths. file:///C:/Users/jacksi/Downloads/ggd_eng_AHL%20daily%20price%20Sep%202.pdf
http://www.britishbulls.com/members/SignalPage.aspx?lang=en&Ticker=EMG.L ''The previous SELL recommendation was issued on 9/1/2014, 1 day ago, when the stock price was 118.1000. Since then EMG.L has risen by +2.03%''. . . ''.Market Outlook'' . . ..''The bears are struggling to keep the upper hand in the market but the bearish supremacy is questionable''. . . . . . . . .. While recommending shareholders to sell shares of a viable company that is performing well is incredible, IMO, give them a bit of credit for 'changing' their advice so quickly.
Looks like the market may be waking up to the fact that AHL is up in/about the HWM zone as you've speculated Fatlad. Past time too. Here's hoping for a continued upswing. As ever, GLA and DYOR
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/portugal-bank-got-goldman-sachs-084818305.html ''Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS-PB - news) stands to lose money on a multi-million euro loan it made to one of Portugal's largest banks a month before it collapsed, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday. The US investment bank made the $835-million (635-million-euro) loan in July through a Luxembourg financing vehicle it created at a time when Banco Espirito Santo, on the verge of bankruptcy, found it nearly impossible to borrow money directly in capital markets, the newspaper said''. . . . . . . 01-Aug-14 Espirito Santo Execution Sell 91.00 91.00 Reiteration. . . . . . .. . . .Strange goings on
Up 2.1% on week. Was this the reason for this afternoon's increase?
Is there a published link? Any idea how m one finds out what the high water mark for increased performance fees is?