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Thanks for your message. While I give every respect to other points of view, I don't see this one other than that the nature of many ''shorters'' now is to short good and safe companies bringing many of those companies into undeserving disrepute. . That's not what I expect within the LSEx rules as I read them. Just as important it must be worrying where that money goes if not into LSEx based companies. I realise that a labour led government mis-guidingly relaxed the rules just to try and be popular, (IMO), but I half expected a capitalist leaning government to put that straight, unfortunately . . . . . . .
still $1.2997 despite all the turmoil. Meaning IMV Man's SP is definitely being held down by bidder's friends for a t/o, (1.20+ 30% premium is my guess). However, IMO if that is what is happening then it is blatant cheating by the LSEx of genuine investors such as myself. Furthermore, just watch, the shorters will be sneakily having another go this afternoon. If I can see that why cant the O's or will they conveniently make themselves scarce, IMO, if that is what is happening then it is blatant cheating by the LSEx of genuine investors such as myself.
see there was a 7million ordinary buy after hours today (if reported correctly)
hi, yes, seen that. imagine it'll be down again today, but still impressively high. be interested to see the level of performance fees for Q3 on the 16th oct.
Similar time each day especially after news has been submitted, i.e. AHL results, during a Friday afternoon when a lot of business is winding down, (for the want of a better explanation), the shorters start performing against this or some other company, that is usually doing well. ( Easy to pull down a share price and scarper with their ill gotten gains). What worries me most is where this money may be going to and it may not reurn, as it seems anyone from any place in the world can come to London Stock Exchange and 'short' a decent company with no restrictions at all by the look of it, as regulators, if any, must try to emulate the ostrich. DYOR
syndrome
expect you've seen AHL clawed back 0.6% yesterday now $ 1.3033
AHL has long been and still is recognised as the main contributer to Man's profits as its overheads are obviously much less. than GLG manned funds. . Man SP suffered because of AHL's stumbling.. Now AHL is firmly in hwm profits yet Man's SP is still being vastly unfairly manipulated from rising to what it should be. Whether it is for a pending t/o bid or not it is still not right. Is it any wonder there is a lack of investors willing to invest. For me, i cant fathom cheating minds so I don't invest any more funds into LSEx. Pity the LSEx regulators don't take heed of our posts.
to 1.2958, but still firmly in HWM territory.
Steady performance by AHL indeed. Current guess: we'll see a significant increase in share price in the 1-2 weeks before the next statement on 16 October, maybe 'overshooting' again. Tighten your seatbelts, guys. One thing is for sure: analysts' estimates are a joke. It's like predicting yesterday's weather.
Yes, it's 'stuck' in this trading range. AHL is performing very strongly - hopefully up again yesterday, as it gained 0.2% on Monday even with the big drop. GLG not performing to the levels of last year, but most funds are doing ok. Included in the H2 figures will be the US acquisitions with around $15billion of AuM. Am assuming that Q3 figures on the 16th October will hopefully boost the share price to the upside.
This has to be the most manipulated stock I've ever been involved in! Seriously 'big brother' at the LSE must see this or is it the turn a blind eye to the big corporates as usual routine?
now $1.3058. AHL has now been over $1.20 for all of this HY (since July 1), and around about $1.30 for all of September.
Bigel, agreed. Dividend is an issue. Seems safe to me, with increase likely. I think another reason is that it just takes time to re-build trust in AHL. After what happened last year when it lost most of its hard-earned gains in a matter of a short period, market jitters are observed carefully. Who knows really how AHL will fare in the transition to rising rates? Plus people are asking questions about whether hedge funds in general are worth the high fees. Looking at some GLG funds this year, that questions is justified. However, so far I like the recent weeks' share price trend and don't mind it continuing upwards. Fatlad if you think the shares are too cheap or manipulated downwards, there's a simple way to take advantage: buy more of them. :)
at last, back threatening the HWM! I've been thinking a lot about your posts and how you think it's being held down, the only plausible reason is the dividend yield, if that is starting to become so low that people don't think it's worth the risk then it's going to create a ceiling that we will be stuck under (as we appear to be). We need the board to come out and specifically say that the divi's will be higher due to the increased performance fees and then I reckon you'll see us fly. At the moment I think the market doubts this will happen which is why we are where we are...
1.4% gain on Friday and 3.5% on week
$1.2855 (2.1% on week). So who is continuing to prevent SP from rising, is it GS. JPM? Whoever it is should be told to make a bid or put up. Not right that Man's SP is continually pulled down by shorters just so that a sneaky t/o can be performed. AIMO.
1.2855 0.5% 2.1%
We're stuck in this trading range currently....hopefully , a positive q3 in October will push us past resistance. After all, they did say that they had soft closed an AHL fund to new money due to unprecedented demand.
climbs back up in hwm $1.2785 with a 1.5% rise yesterday. Building on from what Barclays have said. With this continued strength in AHL and improvement in GLG Flagship funds, (up again last week), EMG should cetainly put another 30p towards the EMG 153p share price as touted a few weeks ago in a post by ll Editor (lll) http://www.iii.co.uk/news-opinion/trends-and-targets/trends-and-targets-8072014 on July 7th 2014.
has been improving over the past 4 weeks and last weeks figures show improvement of the 8 Flagship funds of 8%, 9%, 11%, 14%, 41%, 50%, and two over 100%. Seeing as the dividend is based on performances, if AHL & GLG keep this up then surely the next dividend will be up considerable.
To just a blip, £ recovering against all major currencies so AHL ought to continue its rise today? One thing about the shorting is what is stopping undesirables getting quick easy money out of the market. The types that would certainly not go long. Are there any safeguards?
The drop we were expecting from the turmoil, (AHL now 1.2826). Certainly appears to me that mm's could have been acting on insider information as we have only just been able to find out yet they have been dropping Man's price by over 5% since yesterday morning.. Sometimes I am wrong, but I feel that with Goldman Sachs having had recent inside dealings for Man, Espirito being in their debt, Espirito touted as being a mm for Man (and more often than not shorting Man). mm's reportedly sticking together, Regulators, (if there are any), having absconded from their duties regarding this and other shares, what dam chance have we got. Still waiting for replies from :LSEx with number of examples still piling up.
There's the drop we were expecting from the turmoil, AHL now 1.2826. Certainly appears to mm's could have been acting on insider information as we have only just been able to find out but they have been dropping Man's price since yesterday morning.. Sometimes I am wrong, but I feel that with Goldman Sachs having had recent inside dealings for Man, Espirito being in their debt, Espirito touted as being a mm for Man. mm's reportedly sticking together, Regulators, if there are any, having absconded from their duties, what dam chance have we got.
looking back over my records I believe the contrary will prevail in that when Man produce good figures the mm's pull down the share price within days if not hours for no reason except, IMO, their own one sided 'protectionism' based on 'greedism' but little related to the 'essence of capitalism' Is it any wonder the likes of myself will not invest any further funds in the market until I see effective action is taken against that practice. I believe other investment opportunities will be prevalent. (So its is likely they will end up just cheating each other).