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Now this partnership is on, the risk associated with being an AIM stock has almost completely gone, much bigger institutes will be taking positions here over the coming weeks. Bagger :)
RichensJ great links. Indicates just how important the news is considered to be for the nation and the noise will no doubt creschendo.
Ironic the government grants will be icing on the cake which before today was the most exciting possibility on the agenda is how I have felt since the allocation of funds were announced by the Chancellor and looking forward to CITY announcing something when and if it happens. But it's been eclipsed now so no great shakes if they don't get any. I have always had the feeling they would be offered money to build networks in rural areas. I hope that isn't the case unless the government underwrite the full cost of any such project with CITY given the infrastructure ownership as it's fee as really they will have their hands full enough with what's now on the table and a done deal with Vodafone.
Mbs representations by retail sellers to domestic end users in my experience should be taken with a punch of salt. 100Mbs is more than good enough for the average householder. The fact is that the actual speed achieved and the speed achievable are 2 different things. In a dozen countries or more without counting on fingers and toes, I have never seen an actual speed achieved on any device in excess of 100 Mbs no matter what the seller has stated as being, in layman's terms, the Mbs to be, but in technical terms and fact is merely the "achievable" alone. CITY are the Prince Regent in waiting to the Openreach current king of broadband infrastructure. Don't be surprised if they usurp that position or divide the power and territory of the incumbent in the fullness of time to become an equal ruler. At the moment we have a quasi monopoly moving rapidly to a duopoly. The issue of Mbs representations has not yet surfaced on any official agenda that I am aware of but how fibre to the home is represented is in terms if the final bit BT are providing to the home is copper. So they are part fibre is the fact of the matter but have not been marketing it that way and Joe Public tends not be any wiser. It's all a changing regulatory clock of moving parts. The Mbs is a non issue in practical terms for wholesalers but is an issue for retail marketing. If there is any issue for upgrading bits of the infrastructure to enable marketing on an equal basis to retail competitors no doubt Vodafone will want that and it will have already been factored in. I don't have any idea about the posters on this forum but would say with all due respect that if someone wanted to mischievous it would be easy to do so by talking negatively about Mbs in terms of CITY and comparing non business speeds of of higher than 100Mbs if that's what CITY'S is and retailers such as Virgin are higher. Can't remember ever checking this forum before for CITY before this series of posts. Might do again over the next day or two and in the future when there are RNS's or other things going on publicly outside the company, eg Government or Regulator press release as other people's reactions to hot news is beneficial I find. Basically the forum is not one to hog I don't think. This is a big long beautiful vessel just launched to sale in pleasant waters I feel so no need to keep a daily watch. Happy to hear from at each part of destination... Out of politeness I reply to any post I make that I see the response for.
"Vodafone and CityFibre, the UK's largest alternative provider of wholesale fibre network infrastructure, announced a long-term strategic partnership on Thursday that would bring gigabit-capable full fibre broadband to up to five million UK homes and businesses by 2025. The two companies, listed on the FTSE 100 and AIM respectively, said that under the wholesale agreement, Vodafone will have a period of exclusive rights - predominantly during the build phase of each city network - to market ultrafast consumer broadband services on the FTTP network to be built, operated and owned by CityFibre. Construction of the first phase of deployment to one million premises was due to start in the first half of 2018, and would be largely complete in 2021. Both parties have the right to extend the commercial terms of the agreement to expand coverage to a further four million homes and businesses by 2025. FTTP networks use fibre-optic cables for every stage of the connection from the customer's home or workplace to the wider internet, providing "extremely fast" and reliable broadband services capable of gigabit speeds, which are more than 10 times faster than top speeds currently available on most Openreach-serviced 'fibre' connections. The two firms said FTTP broadband connections were "vastly superior" to outdated networks that rely on old copper telephone lines to connect to the customer's premises. Currently, both predominant broadband networks - BT's Openreach and Liberty Global's Virgin Media - use copper cabling to connect the customer's home to the rest of the network. Vodafone and CityFibre said the partnership represented "one of the most significant developments" in UK telecommunications since the launch of ADSL broadband around 17 years ago. It would reportedly help to bridge Britain's fibre gap, bringing gigabit-capable FTTP connections to households, businesses and public sector sites such as schools, hospitals and GP surgeries, and delivering 50% of the UK Government's target of 'full fibre' to 10 million homes and businesses. Advanced fibre networks were also critical for mobile networks, providing the very high-capacity backhaul connections required for 5G mobile services from the early 2020s onwards. The agreement provided Vodafone UK with access to a superior product at a lower cost and with better service conditions than the regulated wholesale terms offered by the incumbent operator - i.e. Openreach - for access to its legacy copper telephone line broadband network, its board claimed. It said it was consistent with Vodafone Group's capital-smart fixed infrastructure strategy that aimed for an optimal mix of build/strategic partnership/wholesale/buy approaches in fixed broadband. The strategy had positioned Vodafone as the fastest growing broadband provider in Europe, the board claimed, marketing high-speed broadband services to 99 million European homes - a footprint that
When you say speculate please do not include the term "let's". I am not speculating but I will wait and see what happens. Clearly you know a thing or two about Transmission Technologies but please keep this real. Joe Bloggs and his uncle think yeah I want 100MB but most do not need anything near it. ADSL will suffice in most cases , the issues are more about Backhaul Capability and contention. If someone really did want to pay for 300MG then without there own dedicated Gig Port they will get contention etc. I think you know this already so basically what the hell is your agenda ? PS It is not really working is it ?
When you say speculate please do not include the term "let's". I am not speculating but I will wait and see what happens. Clearly you know a thing or two about Transmission Technologies but please keep this real. Joe Bloggs and his uncle think yeah I want 100MB but most do not need anything near it. ADSL will suffice in most cases , the issues are more about Backhaul Capability and contention. If someone really did want to pay for 300MG then without there own dedicated Gig Port they will get contention etc. I think you know this already so basically what the hell is your agenda ? PS It is not really working is it ?
Foggy100. Lets not speculate and wait and see what happens.
That depends what you are suggesting I should ask Vodafone exactly. I suggest the average user would be very happy with less than 100MG. Vodafone have CWDM Capability if required Inflation affects everybody If you read the press you would have seen articles regarding tie ups with VF and openreach and Virgin Media Clearly they have now made a choice and being that this is a partnership which will ultimately affect Customer perception of each entity they ar ehardly likely to leave City Fibre in the lurch are they
I have spent over a hour researching your posts before my allegation ? . Unfortunately I only get to see your post history , so I can't disprove your claim that you post because people would miss your posts . LSEs server would see both sides of the story . For this reason I have been photo shooting your posts and will continue to do so . I am protecting a large investment if legal assistance in the matter becomes necessary rest assured I will have the information to hand . Please be informed I am photo shooting the conversations . If you can justify your posts and have no connections to big investors then you have nothing to worry about . Like wise the same obviously go's for me . It is simple to see why I am here , but Impossible to see why you are here ! ? ! .
foggy100. Ask Vodafone not me. I am not a Spokesperson for VF
much a shorter in the stich..or working for one.....too late!!!
It is not about Vodafone Stitching up City Fibre it is a partnership and regarding my previous question that you have not answered. How many Megabits is enough for the average user and what type of WDM do you think VF use and where does it sit in the Network
Ironic, I am not trying to harm or damage anyone. Just putting my views forward. If you look back on the posts you will see that some people miss my posts and I feel obliged to post. If you feel threatened by my posts, well, that�s your problem!
ex employee?
As I say you constantly attack just this company out of hundreds . It is illogical to hang around a BB trying to harm a company's reputation and damage the BODs reputations in the process . Not to mention the damage your obsessive trolling of this company is having on people's personal investment . I honestly believe you have a dishonest motive .
I suggest you should close your short soon. Mate...
Odd isnt it how when you look at his past posts, all they are is slating here! Lol!! Usually people post in other share boards also
Ironic, Putting a view forward or replying to other posts cannot be classed as illegal. I, or anyone else has as much right to publish their views as you have. Seems like you feel threatened by facts or other peoples views.
Or he is shorting
Yes the time scales are very clear in the agreement . AIM is for developing company's which this is and their values are mainly based on potential . We are ahead of most with good income and improvement year on year now this huge contract with a big name . So why are you here year after year attacking just this company , no other just this one relentlessly ? . Are you being paid for your time ? I believe you are !
Ironic, yes, youll have to wait 20 years for the �5 million pounds that�s if Vodafone can achieve their target for 20 years. In the meantime City may go bust or get acquired by another Telco, possibly Vodafone.
Elhumphreys that question is aimed at you . I am trying to get to the bottom of the possible eligal activitys that appear to be going on on these BBs . Who is paying you to do a full time job attacking this company and why ?
Competition ! The government probably would not just let Vodaphone do it them selves as this could lead to a unfair advantage to one network killing of competition and allowing Vodaphone to pick its own prices . The exclusivety period is probably the best advantage they could work . If you are un happy here and don't believe then why are you here , why have you spent nearly 2 years haunting a BB . Out of all AIM you pick just this one to haunt day after day . Who pays you and why ?
Lokash, if that is what you believe, Good luck! I am not criticising anyones opinion.