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Agree SpectralBlue, would be great to have it resolved sooner but I can only see this going one way on the 4th.
The 4th is taking an age to arrive. If only it could be resolved before.
People need to read up on the legislation concerning data protection. Your data can be provided if there is a lawful purpose for processing for which there are 6 categories including if you need to process the personal data to comply with a common law or statutory obligation.
Probably Chill, or Investor Update, have written to each nominee and asked for the names of their shareholders and the nominee has provided the information because the request has been made for the purposes of s. 793 of the Companies Act 2006.
As TW89 says, nothing dubious in the addresses being given for writing to the shareholders even if the purpose may not be palatable.
I'm guessing through investors brokerage companies who typically maintain records of their clients' holdings and provide necessary information to the companies. Or proxy solicitation firms and services to communicate with shareholders, especially during AGM's. Nothing dubious going on.
I was actually thinking that last night , how would they get your address ? Surely not from when you ordered chill products from the website ? How do they know you are a shareholder and how many shares you have ? Surely a big law firm like T & A are using wouldn’t fall fowl of anything dubious .
Artificial Intelligence BoT
Technology obviously is not a tool that Trevor & Antonio use in my opinion.
I asked my AI BoT “Can a Broker like Barclays, AJ Bell, Interactive if they can disclose you name and home address to another Company”
AI BoT’s reply: “AJ Bell etc has a responsibility to protect your personal information. Disclosing your home address to another Company without your consent would violate data protection regulations.”
Therefor “Investor Update” have obtained some shareholders names and addresses from “A Company” now at present we do not know who supplied the data to “Investor Update” (But I do know how they obtained names and addresses)
If I receive a letter from “Investor Update” I would comply, but I would also issue them with a “Subject Access Request” (known as a SAR in the UK)
Individuals have the right to access and receive a copy of their personal data, and other supplementary information.
RKB
PS I was asked recently by my seven-year-old granddaughter’s primary school teacher if I would give a talk to 30 pupils about keeping bees. I agreed but I wanted to have some large charts so that the class could retain the charts for future refence. I tried to source the charts from a UK Company that supplies all the equipment for beekeepers, but they were out of stock, so I had to source them from China. My daughter was upset with me not only for ordering from China but really concerned about my data. The website had my name and home address. So how did Trevor obtain your name and address to pass to “Investor Update”? Have you purchased anything recently?
Trevor & Antonio may not have 2.75%
Our declared votes for all Resolutions are now 108,097,228 (just over 108 million)
Recent additions to our previous total of 105,290,220 are:
Turnthecorner amendment after confirmation
of voting for all Resolutions -35,300
Elembee 25,000
Blachsheep15 496,000
RKB small top up 6,308
Lyons 215,000
Cavepilot 2,100,000
The above is about 2,807,008 making our currently declared total about 108 million.
The reason I said that Trevor & Antonio may not have 2.75% is because on the day of the General Meeting there could be a challenge to the ownership of their shares. If their shares are pledged to J Story and someone is present at the General Meeting that confirms this then Trevor & Antonio will not be able to vote.
In the above scenario that would only leave Ox Distributing that may vote against the Resolutions and if insufficient shareholders vote that are less than Ox Distributing shares (42,739,994) then we will not have any new Directors appointed and no Directors will be removed.
Chill Brands Group are utilizing the resources of Fieldfisher, Investor Update and a few other Corporate Bodies (The Baddies) to disenfranchise some Ordinary Shareholders.
I believe “The Baddies” will try to invalidate J Swans shareholding and a few other larger shareholders. On the day of the General Meeting, they will invalidate as many Ordinary Shareholders as possible who attend the GM. They will exclude you if you do not have valid ID. If you do not have proof of address or if the address does not match what is on the share register or if you are too tall or too small, any excuse to keep the status quo.
“The Baddies” goal is to have Trevor & Antonio remain as Directors and may attempt to say there is a concert party such as all Posters on LSE South East because they want to replace Directors.
Trevor & Antonio when are you going to realise that Ordinary Shareholders would like you to resign? In my opinion you forgot who owns Chill Brand Groups Plc, it’s the shareholders and your time is up. There is a short window left for you both to exit with a severance but if you take it to the General Meeting, you will be voted off and you also loos all your Options and warrants.
RKB
PS If you are attending the General Meeting watch your possessions as thieves could be present.
Now there’s a STORY
Hyperion has a court action with A and T
Hyperion owned by story and sons inc
Hyperion is a finance company
A and T s shares bought I believe at a much higher Mrkt price than today and probably not with their money but Story’s hence the court proceedings.
I would suspect RKB is not far from the truth
As always RKB provides good thought provoking analysis!!! Agree Callum back asap good going forward!!!
Interesting RKB.
Also in the RNS dated 28th October 2020 it mentions that 5,775,000 options have initially been returned to the "Option pool" due to the Option holders leaving the company. It does go on to say that these Options were redistributed to T & A.
I know that they have also been granted many more Options, the last i think was in the RNS dated 11/09/23.
Cant wait for T & A Options to be returned to the "Option pool" in the not too distant ;-)
Excellent research Mr Beekeeper
Fabulous research RKB. Hopefully this fiasco will be over shortly and Callum returns to continue his good work in making this a great business for all of us.
Good afternoon,
Another great,informative post from RKB.
Hopefully this debacle will be over shortly unless the 2 c..boys decide to see sense and jump before they are pushed.
RKB your past professional working days in the city have certainly helped many to understand the behind the scenes workings that normal people find it hard to grasp that a few companies are infested with a certain type of human being that could never walk in Callum’s shoes and be honourable and open which he’s shown since he first step in.
The sooner they are gone the better.
Wow how did Callum keep us afloat. Thank you rkb for your in depth insites and research.
Do they own their shares?
Do Trevor & Antonio really own their shares? The reason why I ask this question is because I believe they do not.
Anyone who attends the General Meeting can ask to see the Shareholder Register.
If a Director has “pledged” their shares as security for a loan, then they may technically own them but will they be able to vote them?
We all know that John Story invested a few years ago when we had both the Americans as Joint CEO’s Our share price hit I think £1.08p and John Story exited at various prices substantially more than the current price (there was also Spreadex) and there was an RNS on 7th Feb 2022 to say that J Story held less than 4.09% (because that what he said he held in previous TR1 and he could have had 0% because he did not have to TR1 because he was already below the notifiable threshold of 5%)
John Story would have received information from our joint CEO’s before he invested and it could be that even though J Story invested he did not agree with what he was told. He may have been told a lot of guff. So J Story after doing his own due diligence decides he can use the information he was given along with what he researched and decided to “Short” the shares along with divesting at the £0.80p’s or even more.
Where it becomes interesting in my view is that Trevor & Antonio bought some shares see RNS 28th October 2020
Their share purchases were from an existing shareholder (secret it was J Story) and the agreed price was £0.39p so they each “owed” J Story £195,000
Now if you have been following the Chill Brands Supporters Group, and utilized the links provided (re Court Case in London & The Companies House company for J Story) you may form the same opinion that I have, in that Trevor & Antonio owe J Story £195,000 each and interest (its 10%) or about £20,000 a year. So their debt is now around £265,000 each (about £70,000 interest plus original loan)
So they owe jointly about £530,000 and being kind their 500,000 shares are worth today about £25,000 (£12,500 each)
Now, is there a picture forming as to why Trevor & Antonio desperate to cling on? Is there a reason why our share price is around £0.025p today and not £0.39p?
After we have our new Directors in place, and Callum back in charge we will see a recovery in our share price in my opinion.
RKB
PS If I had 6,950,000 shares today, they would be worth about £173,750 and if I had a friend who had the same, then we would have shares worth about £347,500 and if I owed J Story about £530,000 would John just accept all our shares to cancel our indebtedness?
Looking forward to the next post RKB. Time to release it
S793 Companies Act
Antonio & Trevor are clutching at straws and issuing Section 793 Companies Act in an attempt at subverting the will of Ordinary Shareholders.
Normally I would not have issue with a S793 if used for the purpose it was intended for but I appears to me this is a last throw of the dice with our two Directors who are not wanted on our Board.
I do not think Antonio & Trevor have the brains to have thought about using S793’s (due to impairment of their brains with some of the stuff they have grown over the years)
I believe it is Fieldfisher who is behind this. We will one day find out who engaged “Investor Update”
On the “Investor Update” website it says “Together with our strategic partners Okapi Partners,
We advise our clients on their shareholder relationships, how to avoid conflict, and if conflict is inevitable, how to navigate to a positive result.”
“By combining Investor Update’s best-in-class Shareholder ID with the leading global Proxy Solicitation firm, our clients have the best opportunity to garner shareholder support when they need it.”
I have not included the link to Investor Update’s website because they have certain cookies that are placed on your device. Please beware they are not looking after Ordinary Shareholders interests.
On the Fieldfisher website, they have information about Section S793 Companies Act. I have only included the last paragraph.
“From a practical point of view, a Board will not normally send out anything other than a "normal" S 793 Notice unless it thinks the recipients are up to something subversive, but secret. The most probable timing for such a Notice will be when some controversial resolutions are pending. In that likely scenario, it is also very likely that the Board would not only like the recipients to be disenfranchised, but will have that as its predominant motive.
Read the last sentence again to understand why our two Americans are maybe using S793’s “Board would not only like the recipients to be disenfranchised, but will have that as its predominant motive.”
RKB
PS Trevor & Antonio you will not like my next Post, you had your chance to resign but you resort to engaging various professional firms to defend the undefendable and you are using shareholders funds.
I've also voted for all resolutions with my 2.1 million shares.
No letter received as yet.
Mine split btwn HL and LLOYDS....not a sniff of a letter from either !! They clearly wish to take this to the wire.....at the detriment to shareholders, the company, and Callum.
Posters on Telegram group are reporting problems resulting from arranging ogm to replace egm. Some are saying their brokers are now showing as not voted even though they had, so many voting again or concerned voting twice may invalidate their vote. Also, some have received letters from the BOD asking them to provide details of their holdings, on the basis that failure to do so will invalidate their votes. Talk about dirty tactics but it is all a bit concerning. I voted on HL but only after the revised meeting was put out and asked for and received an email from HL confirming my vote. On HL I had to vote twice as My holdings are split between ISA and other funds. Are others aware of that?
Getting weirder by the day. HL now have me as voted but if I click “vote here” it appears to infer that I haven’t voted on the 3rd party site that dealt with it. I’m not voting again until that gets clarified in case it voids the vote.
Bellers you could be right, given the timeframe it’s probably best to involve key players rather than every holding.
Nothing unusual here. A very short response window has been given. Clearly with a view of nullifying some of the vote for the resolution. Those with the letters need to respond immediately.
Having investigated this is fairly standard and we should all answer within the given timeframe