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Troajan,
I'm not aiming at you. I'm a shareholder in BA. and agree with you. I'm annoyed at the ignorant yobs protesting about everything and anything that takes their fancy. Great that Greenpeace are being sued for $ Billions by SHEL and related contractor. There's an argument against the form of so-called totally free Democracy that Populist ideologies demand these days. The other extreme as in China and Russia are too much in the other direction.
Dont shoot the messsenger clued
bae is a reputable arms dealer.imo
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/bae-systems-orders-surge-as-nations-ramp-up-military-spending/ar-AA1jPYhn?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=6f9e9f64bce4485d950c6dd5fa172129&ei=43
Troajan, re your link to BAE facing a public backlash over its involvement in the production of F-35 warplanes used by the Israeli military in Gaza, it is supplying only 15% of the parts and not doing anything illegal. The purchase lead time on these parts is years so what the Israelis are currently using was supplied years ago and no protests can reverse what happened years ago. I can't believe the days we live in where mobs can try to bully legitimate businesses - Defence, Oil and Gas, Tobacco, etc.. - to change what they do. Elected Governments are meant to deal with situations that require a change. In most cases of these protests, most participants are badly informed and are simply there to be part of something that helps their mental state of loneliness or 'life without a purpose' !! Seeing the videos of rioters in London on Saturday taunting police really reveals what a sorry state British society is in today. I actually felt sorry for the police because they are so restricted in how they can deal with these rough ignorant yobs. I can only imagine the reaction if the police started shooting at them !!
Who do these morons think they are ? London will be chaos tomorrow, and if HMG think that there won't be a violent confrontation with police whilst Remembrance Day attendance takes place at same time as these Gaza demonstrations take place, then they're really deluded !! All it takes is for thousands to divert towards Whitehall and the police will be in serious bother !! What's happening in Gaza is wrong, but Hamas could get a ceasefire by releasing all hostages alive, the ball is in Hamas's court !!
Protesters blockade BAE Systems factory in Rochester over Gaza
Fri, 10th Nov 2023 10:11Alliance News
(Alliance News) - UK trade union members on Friday blockaded a British military equipment maker in southeastern England, calling for a ceasefire in Israel's offensive in Gaza.
Demonstrators brandished banners and placards reading "no business as usual" and "taxpayers have blood on their hands" outside the gates of the BAE Systems PLC factory in Rochester.
Organisers said they were aiming to shut down the factory "which provides components for military aircraft currently being used by Israeli forces in the bombardment of Gaza".
They said it was part of an "international day of action for Palestine" organised in response to a call by Palestinian trade unionists.
Since the Hamas attacks in southern Israel on October 7 – in which Israel says 1,400 people were killed and 240 taken hostage – Israel has bombarded Gaza relentlessly and sent in ground troops.
The Palestinian territory's Hamas-run health ministry says more than 10,800 people have been killed in Gaza, many of them children.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that a ceasefire without the release of the hostages would mean "surrender to Hamas".
Aid organisations said on Thursday that a full ceasefire is needed to get help to civilians in Gaza wounded in Israeli bombardments, and to transport crucial aid to the 2.4 million people living in the besieged territory, one of the most densely populated in the world.
Shares in BAE were up 1.8% at 1,109.50 pence each in London on Friday morning.
source: AFP
Copyright 2023 Alliance News Ltd.
TOP 5 for me are:
TEM.L
III.L
RIO.L
LGEN.L
MRC.L
BA.L comes in below RKT.L, GSEO, PEY.L, SIE.XE and ROG.S
My portfolio has not been constructed for income. It has been constructed for capital growth and any income thrown off is a bonus and more often than not from holdings owned for decades.
AAL - Anglo American
BAe - but I hold for share growth eg Typhoon sale & will sell down
Rolls Royce - no dividend but share price growth. Will sell down once I hit my target
MKS - yes after 4 years Marks & Sparks now paying a 1p dividend ! But share price growth for me and sell out.
After that lot I hold ETF's. So not really a dividend seeker .
23 pence or something. If I read your post correctly then you have £1m in shares. A bit risky for a £23,000.00 dividend?
Long term Tempest may flop, short term Saudi's might buy Rafael and a possibility of a share price drop after Ukraine war bought to a negotiated settlement and the Americans equip the Ukraine airforce with F16's.
But I hope not ! :)
What are your current top 5 dividend stocks ?
Fantastic company, what is the expected next dividend at themoment please?
If i owned 100000 of these...🤩
No. The German manufacturer or ( OEM ) hold all the 'rights' etc. And....
If you redisign from scratch then has to pass all safety checks etc
And building just '48' black boxes is too small an order for a new manufacturer to take on due to costs.
So, back to German approval or no sale!
DBarnett, couldn't BA. source the requisite parts currently supplied by Germany ? There are others that could make these parts surely ?
Are the two Wars over - why the large drop today ? 2.5% is unwarranted.
See the RNS
Yes, had eyes on the deal but I thought you had suggested Saudi was looking at buying the whole company, not some of it's jets. Very sorry. All clear now.
Apart from reports :
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/saudi-arabia-requests-quote-french-fighter-jets-la-tribune-2023-10-21/
The Saudi's still fly Tornado. It's finished in 2030. They need aircraft so if the Germans refuse to budge then the French will move in.
Q: A bigger drop will come if there is any truth in the Saudi's exploring buying Rafale. ?? What do we know about the Saudi desire for Rafael ?
Hell yeah,stormshadows
and that new typhoon replacement,looks pretty mean aswell
We do aeroplanes with bombs ;)
Artee
ooops soz,yeah,you guys dont do airliners.lol.
Wrong board I think Troajan!
A bigger drop will come if there is any truth in the Saudi's exploring buying Rafale.
German export ban still it seems prevents the 48 Typhoon order and the Saudi's need to replace a lot of aircraft. Nervous times!
Oldbutnowisa, Yes, can't understand the retreat on Friday. Israel seems to be ramping things up even with some Israel survey saying that israelis oppose the Gaza strip invasion. Hamas should be forced to hand over the specific 'animals' who butchered babies and young children face to face as they are obviously psychopaths and do they actually want them to remain within their military and Palestinian society at large ? It's one thing killing children from a distance through bombing, etc..., but quite another doing it personally face to face. Even terrorist groups like the IRA never did such things.
LSE gives the PE here as just over 15 which, for the outfit most heavily geared to defence in the world as it is right now is not just cheap. It ranks as a 'must have' in any rational investor's portfolio!