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Missed the link off the previous post.
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ROLLS-ROYCE-HOLDINGS-PLC-4004084/financials/
The only estimates I can find going to year end 2022 are in the link below. Once on the link there's other tabs that can be opened for more company information.
Looking at 2022 sales will be around £13bn and pre tax profits just over £600m. The earnings per share ( EPS ) come in at 21p. A reasonable P/E value of 10 would give a share price of 210p without any dilution. The RI story won't go away and it looks more than likely the company will take some action.
How do we get back to 350p ? I'm no expert but a RI would certainly hit that EPS forecast of 21p and maybe half ? Who knows ? It's hard to see an engineering company trading on high multiples of P/E 20 and more without justification. Profit margins would need to get into the billion pound and more region to get anywhere near. Profits have been there before but it'll be years away. You can only hope an answer to the virus and travel can be found.
hellyeah - well said mate!
Hellyeah ......... That is so well put !!!
" couple of sovereign funds thinks so too "
well you dont actually know that Hellyeah...you are merely taking in what some "sources" have sent over to Sky News.....
what proof do you actaully have of that ?
Helly. Mate don’t debate with this one sided idiot he will be gone in the future RR won’t be ,he obvi gets off on trying to belittle people just filter the idiot after all if everyone filters him he has nobody to insult does he good luck
Toffnobington. I told you if I saw you insulting people on boards or bullying, as you have done in the past on BTs, centrica lloyds I would step up.
You have been shown to get figures wrong inflating debt don’t look things up to get em correct keep copy/past from all over the place to make people think it’s you’re cos you got called out on another board. People need to know how you work and I will tell them
Bang on SenorToro on points 1 2 and 3
Current buyers are crazy crazy gamblers but this is what market is made off.
One has to appreciate there are buyers who think they are getting the bargain of a decade...
800p 30Sep 2019
145p today
Bargain lols
Bargain is closer to 60p...
Toff - These are real experiences and if you dont believe, that's your choice. You learn from your mistakes and trust me I have made mistakes not investing in gems. I bought Boohoo 23p and sold 26p, and actually made a loss on 60p Ocado bet. All priceless lessons that has helped me boost my portfolio 25% higher from pre-covid. Anyways, no point talking to people with head in the sand on this board.
I am confident Rolls Royce will survive and thrive (couple of sovereign funds thinks so too, so I will follow the money along with them). If you are not invested, they why are you even here?
Toff - when Sovereign funds buy, they don't sell like novice PIs to make 10-15%. They are in for long haul (no pun intended). I remember Qatar investing in Barclays in 2008 for some piddly money, Barclays went on to rise 3 fold in next 3-4 years and Qatar sovereign fund went laughing all the way to the bank. Not to mention, takeover bids, sell of ITP Pro etc. that will benefit the SP.
Hellyeah
“Boohoo at 23p, Ocado at 60p - all I was worried about is oh what if this company go burst? Look at them now, stupid me. “
Oh yeah - and I’m a monkey’s uncle.
Hindsight trades - not real ones. The biggest morons on these boards are always plucking hindsight trades out of thin air. And no one does that more than you.
If you want credibility you should start quoting real time trades - real ones!
Toff
Toro
“This scenario requires you to believe that the stock price will reach 3.50 within the next year (the usual length for a moderate-long swing trade).
1)If you buy now, at 143, and let's say in a year, it's back at 350. You've made 144%.“
What the dimwits on this board forget is that there will be 150 percent MORE shares after the rights issue. The extra shares will dilute the existing ones
Earnings per share will fall 150 percent
Any dividend will fall 150 percent.
A price of 350 after the RI would equate to £8.75 a share today.
Dimwits should take this on board - especially those who haven’t bought in yet. The only way Rolls will see 350 ++ is if there’s a share consolidation (which is quite normal after a rights issue - RBS for example) on a 10-1 basis.
Toff
shhh senor i feel nauseous after reading that drivel. the fact is long haul is increase power by the hour services are increasing the world has covid fatigue this is the bottom there will not be a ri the share will rocket when a large investor jumps in which is inevitable at this ridiculously discounted price.
You are completely missing the point about that word called "investment". You buy when there is blood on the street, you don't shy away say and I will buy later. 12 months down the line, we will be back to 400p and you will be wondering why I didn't buy. Believe me it has happened to me (a lot) in the past. Boohoo at 23p, Ocado at 60p - all I was worried about is oh what if this company go burst? Look at them now, stupid me.
Anyways, if people are not invested here, then why are they commenting on here? Just to bring the short term price down? How dishonest.
This scenario requires you to believe that the stock price will reach 3.50 within the next year (the usual length for a moderate-long swing trade).
1)If you buy now, at 143, and let's say in a year, it's back at 350. You've made 144%.
2)If you buy at 100, and in a year it's back at 350, you've made 250%.
3)If you buy at 80, and in a year it's back at 350, you've made 337%.
Assuming you invest £1,000 (or a figure so insignificant to you it doesn't matter if you lose it all should RR fold), you'll have profitted in each scenario: 1)1250 2) 2,240 3) 3,062
Ask yourself - is it really going to bounce back to £3.50 a share within a year? Is the risk of losing all of my money substantial given the current performance and climate? Is this company future-proofed against a resurgence/worsening of the virus around the world, or further pandemics within the next 5-10 years? Is it likely there would be a bail out / buy out if things continued to deteriorate?
My thoughts are that it is still incredibly risky to be putting in a penny more than you can afford to lose right now. If you are gambling and are going to be happy enough if you lose it all, then fine. If you are an investor, be smart, don't rush in, wait until the tide starts to turn - don't buy on the way down, as this has been going down steadily for quite a while now with no signs up a let up.