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‘War & Peace’ v Meditations or Man’s Searching for Meaning…
War & Peace would not be my first choice & no comparison imv, nevertheless carry on surmising - if you must… you’re becoming good at it imv
Is this controversial or setting the record straight?
Re your post being removed HITS - wasn’t me…
I’ve far better things to do than monitor your rhetoric
If it means you’ll sleep better put a red line through ‘acknowledged’ - then replace it with observed… (it’s a good few years since I’d did my English O-Level)
Perhaps spend time with a thesaurus to compare synonyms… then choose your poison ?
You’re demonstrating controversy imv -
I stand by my previous posts…
Let’s hope you find this one less disingenuous
‘Perhaps a little introspection might prove valuable?’
Spikeys’ 20 May 2024 21:58
Why am I not surprised you’d picked up on my post re the FCA… it’s a shame you didn’t absorb or comment on the rest.
I’ve acknowledged how you and many others have tried your damndest to cause upset, worry and controversy on this bb over the years…
I question your integrity
Amit was a UK regulated Director of SB Corp until Aug 2023. Also currently CEO of Cloudtag. If you’ve any concerns Spike re your purchases drop the FCA an email. They’re ever so helpful, though you’d need all of your specific details at the ready.
Not to blow my own trumpet (because I’m far too long in the tooth for nonsense),… I have a wealth of experiences under my belt… and dyslexia was never much of a hindrance.
I too appreciate a nice bloom of rhododendron… it’s a nice time of year for the gardens & never ending grass cutting…
Seemingly Helx is a happy bunny today :)
HITS I don’t disagree with your points of view…
‘Alternative views’ we should imv accept - tolerate - allow. Respectfully discussing, disagreeing or quietly disregarding is acceptable, though we don’t necessarily need to criticise, a few perhaps struggle with the concept of respect.
“Gullible” - would then suggest being a tad easily led… or perhaps accepting opinions of those in this world who are unscrupulous? Elizabeth Holmes at the extreme end, full of her own convictions… bit of an eye opener
Alternative views, back in the day (when Cloudtag was listed) under the umbrella came rampers & derampers, let’s call them ‘persuasive talkers’ for arguments’ sake - long/short/investors, a few perhaps still present here, locked in…
Then perhaps lurking are the uninvested & trolls. Controversial commenting comes with the territory here, seemingly often with intent to provoke arguments; ones’ mind does boggle at this group of folk…
Amongst all of the colourful characters if we’re to make judgments then we’ve to rely on one’s own experiences…
With many specific thoughts in mind - for the time being - I’m backing The FCA ‘regulated’ horse because irrespective of hurdles - as of 27th April update - appears to still be in the running… ?
Considering their powers… what ‘exact criteria’ do the FCA/FSA stipulate/request from regulated members (Other than membership fees) during the period of accreditation of regulatory status, to a registered director and anti money laundering officer, protected under the umbrella of an NDA?
How do they provide protection for consumers ?
Long post… soz
Spike - 16.32
“because i have a different view from her”
For the avoidance of doubt - (because this is becoming ever so tiresome now)
My explanation of ‘pushing boundaries’ isn’t about You (or anyone) agreeing with ‘my’ views - because I simply could not care less… It’s the fact that you can’t accept alternative views (!)
You’re quite apt at incessantly ‘twisting conversations’ or ‘trolling’ others - for having said alternative views… Though has to be said - it does go hand in hand with certain others on this bb
Perhaps it’s what happens when one becomes long in the tooth, (also being invested in Cloudtag) defo brings about the ‘toxic’ worst in some …
Or sends the rest of us a little bit crazy… :(
From my perspective you’re the only one I see with an alcohol obsession [sic]
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Apologies Antha… for lowering my standards to that of others - hopefully you didn’t take it to heart :)
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Enjoy your weekend to Dick ;)
Pushing boundaries Spike -
whereby your views come above and beyond the views of others, whether or not you’re consciously aware; not accepting opposing views… to act in a way that challenges established norms or acceptable behavior.
Though I sense you understand completely
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Spike - I make no apologies for explaining yesterday my experience as a shareholder when buying in the pre ipo…Nor my views of company updates… (“remitting” or otherwise), which I prefer as opposed to some random persons’ views (said with respect) on a chat board who pushes boundaries within a controversial manor - relentlessly - as I see it, against the CEO and the Company at any opportunity.
Someone who also appears to dislike an offered explanation, or the opposing views of others… which doesn’t encompass balance imv…
As I see it given the numerous updates, in addition adjustments to his bio, Amit is holding himself completely accountable as the only known BoD & CEO of Cloudtag, non of which is lost on me within the current status quo…
This then has me questioning ‘only’ the psychology…
Of also your adversarial opinions re Cloudtag, and derogatory descriptions of said company ‘assistants’, from my perspective you seem irritated by my views
Interesting to now see those who actually acknowledge the ‘role’ and ‘responsibilities’ of the FCA … of how this may impact regulated members … as well as protecting consumers?…
(perhaps in the whole context of considered litigation - of holding any organ grinder (?) to accoun? )
Enjoy your weekend Spike :)
So Spike
FYI back in 2018 when I purchased in the pre IPO the person who I dealt with was not Amit, I also know someone else who bought shares, they did not deal with Amit either, nor was it the person who I was corresponding with.
So by my limited knowledge there were at least three people at Cloudtag HQ who were dealing with the Pre IPO and the selling of shares. I’m not going to mention names, because it’s absolutely not necessary.
If you’re trying to pin point blame, then how can point the finger to what you do not know? Nor do we know exactly - whether in addition - there were any admin staff employed at the time.
Additionally I did say in reply -
“We’re all more than aware Spike… are we not?”
Just to keep things in context… (because you really do like to push boundaries)
We know that Amit is the CEO… the buck stops with him… It’s his responsibility to sort out any problems which have come to light in recent times, though any responsibility of anomalies, any errors which occurred in the past may well be at the fault of a n other.
I’m not muddled in the slightest… though can completely understand why you’re unable to apply balance… its because you do not know
‘Who does that leave’
We’re all more than aware Spike… are we not?
We’re all more than frustratingly aware of every delay…
If it was Amit in total control of developments, then perhaps we could really go to town on him for misleading shareholders… ?
Nevertheless just to remind ourselves - shareholders were pretty much told who is allegedly running the show, it’s my interpretation anyhow.
Whether one chooses to believe is at each persons’ discretion
1st June 2023
‘The proceeds arising from these both sales will be distributed only on the announcement of DaaP sale from the buyer as they are interlinked.
The Company’ DaaP constitutes an important part in the “digital ecosystem” which the BUYER HAS DEVELOPED over the last few years.
So let’s just see how ‘all’ things considered - pan out
“Reassuring? I will be reassured when/if – he/they ever pay anyone. This paying agent has been involved (apparently) for months now, what aren't they doing that needs constant updates to vindicate them?“
God only knows?
Hell fire… just caught up with recent revelations …
Make no wonder Amit swiftly removed certain past associations from his bio, then just leaving compliance; Including reassuring updates to shareholders stating licensing fees are with the paying agent.
One ponders whether the Twitter crew even take time out to evaluate …?
“Whispering people have thought we are at the end of the line for multiple years.
IMO you will still be saying we are at the end of the line this summer, then autumn and so on”
You’re another B3ast who likes to take what someone actually says out of context. Read through my posts and put my sentence back together… in context.
And why would it concern you or anyone what I think ?
Why yourself and others are here if you’re convinced it’s a dead duck (unless it’s just to goad others?)… well that’s something I just can’t figure
Spike you were questioning …
“i think if you are trying to make an argument about someone’s business credibility, then i think it does matter what, if anything, they’ve done in the last twenty five years. “
You were questioning Amit’s credibility were you not…? nor you, me, or the man on the moon know exactly what Amit may have been involved with over the past twenty five years…
Folk invested in Cloudtag for various reasons, some perhaps for just a trade, some as a longer term investment, then became locked in. If you’re trying to suggest Amit lacks business acumen in any way then you’re perhaps not giving credit where it’s due, of course it’s only imv. (His comms perhaps need a tad more attention)
“what’s that got to do with whether or not *cloudtag* is a genuinely very valuable commercial entity?
cloudtag was not set up as an investment trust designed to profit by taking stakes in shlomo’s businesses. and cloudtag is *not* one of shlomo’s companies.”
No one other than you has suggested Cloudtag was set up as an investment trust have they?
You’re not a muppet Spkie, so please let’s not take text out of context.
Sorry for the double post… typical of adverts jumping all over the screen whilst trying to key in on one’s phone :(
HITS
“The only evidence to support a positive outcome can be boiled down very simply to "Because Amit said so"... and the plausibility of this is not supportable by any inductive reasoning. Therefore, back to David Icke and the Windsor multi-dimensional lizards, I'm afraid.”
Regardless of whether one chooses an illuminati conspiracy theorist to make a point, or inductive reasoning to dispel any reasoning…
My view is, we are at the end of the line HITS… simply “because Amit said so” within the last two updates… that agents are almost ready to notify shareholders then brokers. No one would actually be here discussing if we didn’t think this could be a plausible outcome… would we now? (It’s why many invested in the first instance)
We’d write it off and move on surely?