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Update - I’ve linked the Portugal manufacturer and Gareth up on email now And they’re taking it from here!
@Nate - Although I’m optimistic, I think you’re right to be wary after the shenanigans so far. If hypothetically GC and the buyer do own 51%, does that allow them to sell P2F, as simple as that? Assuming GC feels no affiliation to RMS other than his equity stake, he is well within his right to sell if he believes it will benefit P2F, so that is concerning.
This would be Trevor brown selling P2F from BH to RMS, and from RMS to the next company in the space of a few weeks though, is this all legal considering the share dumping as well? I’d hope there would be a mechanism in place to stop that.
In other news - The manufacturer I use in Portugal for my sportswear company has a number of factories under his umbrella that are producing disposable IIR masks, as are most factories in Portugal right now. It literally only clicked today. I messaged him some of the news articles from P2F - he had not heard about these masks and he is really interested in speaking to Gareth. I have sent him Gareth’s Nottingham uni email. b****y good news!
Just joined level 2, where can you find the buy vs sells where you’re saying 3 v 2 and so on? Thank you
I thought the same thing. If that were the case though, I would assume they would not be buying up the shares (if it is indeed Volz mopping them up). They would just sort the acquisition separately in a more simple transaction - money for P2F. GC’s 20% of RMS would also need to be factored in as he doesn’t directly own P2F anymore, so the sale would have to benefit him. Not sure how that would work?
Great find. More and more good news coming through here! Here’s hoping for some RNS before the end of the day, otherwise we can expect Monday to be a BIG day (IMO).
Exactly my thoughts Davidol22. It seems the stars are aligning, and this is the vehicle to take our mask to the world. Oh... and Brexit. What an unbelievable way to boost the U.K. economy, partnering with a company from one of the largest economies in the worlds and providing such relevant and sorely needed product(s). I strongly suspect Volz is the ‘bigger ship’ GC spoke about.
Until an RNS is released, it’s obviously guess work. But based on the unusual SP today and 100M late trades, it is my assumption that those warrants were exercised and mopped up by a big investor (Volz???). I’m unsure whether they have to disclose exercised warrants in an RNS or not, though I believe they did disclose some recently. Certainly any significant sells or buy >3% of the total company must be disclosed, so if there is a big investor in the background who has taken >3% shares, this will have to be disclosed. I would have thought this will be released once they stop buying and we get an accumulative figure for their holding, possibly tomorrow? Purely speculative. Penny for more experienced investors thoughts.
I see this all as a positive.
Sharebel, surely this is a good thing and confirms that he sold at a HUGE profit to fund other investments, as any other savvy investment firm would, and he wants to promote RMS/P2F due to the amazing work they are doing? Why would he not want to promote it? The sale was always going to translate to cash at some point, they were paid in shares that were always going to be sold. Nothing ambiguous about it in my eyes. Bank huge profit to progress other investments, and continue to promote RMS/P2F for the stellar work they are embarking on.
Too much panic and deramping going on here. The fundamentals are right in front of us, detailed in Gareth’s awesome interview, the latest RNS, and the German manufacturer contract. The SP is of course disheartening to watch, but what do you expect when huge volumes of sales go through irrespective of agenda? My point being, even with a very good reason and rationale for selling, the SP will be smashed with that volume. Market volatility is a given.
In the grand scheme of things also, if they were always going to sell their profits for cash at some point, I would speculate that now is the best time for it before the contract news and order numbers land. If we went up to 10p off the back of good RNS news and then they sold it would hit the SP extremely hard, probably harder in terms of % than it has at this very early stage . At least with selling before the contract news is out, the only way is up and we just have to ride the emotional wave of sellers until then. My thoughts only.
Just checked companies house through your link, it seems you’re on to something here! Very optimistic. Great find
No near as dammit about it, it’s already confirmed that BH has sold up and Paul Ryan has also sold up. This is going up tomorrow. Too much buying pressure (hence a relatively stable SP despite over 100M shares dumped) and no longer any selling pressure other than from PI’s. The outcome remains to be seen of course, but I know where my bets lie.
If that is the case, the percentage shares in the free market must be pretty massive now then? After all these sales. Has to be 60% plus right?
Also, how can he be a director of a company he has no vested interest in? Very strange
Why would TB deliberately depress the SP to ‘kick it while it’s down’? He would only benefit from a higher SP, he’s still the director of RMS. He’s cashing in at a HUGE profit and raising capital for other investments, pretty clear to me. If he starts selling his own stake in RMS, then we worry. Until then, get these sales out of the way and we can start to see some significant rises once news is released. Hold
Absolutely. Get these sells out of the way, and any good news to follow can only see the SP rise. Right now we’ve had an excellent RNS on Monday completely undermined by these actions. I’m actually quite relieved at how well the market is taking it and mopping up the shares. Could have seen it plummet to 1p, but we haven’t, suggesting huge buying and confidence. For the next RNS’s (hopefully) we won’t have any of this to contend with and up up we go. Hold for gold
Hi all. Extremely happy with current news, the foundations are now built with that RNS and media exposure, hoping we don’t see anything below 4p again from regardless of MM’s. question to experienced inversions on here / AIM - they seem to have added a lot of shares over the last two weeks, recently the 10M shares in lieu of wages for the development gig, and I wondered how often we can expect to see this happen, and how that reflects on management. Is it normal to raise new shares on a regular basis? It seems a pretty hefty payment for those services, even if they are involved with P2F from quite early on. Will management look after themselves to the detriment of the shareholders? Not sure it matter as this stock is going sky high, but I’m curious to know peoples thoughts. On to a big one tomorrow! GLA
Thanks, please correct! Genuinely looking to understand and learn. We’re all here to make money, so guidance is appreciated.
Trying to understand the market cap to formulate a decent top slice / exit price and would appreciate some genuine discussion, sorry in advance for the naivity, that’s what these threads are for though right!?
Machine revenue: 5M per month = 60M per annum
At 1.6B shares in issue, that’s approx 3.75p per machine added to our SP. of course there are many other considerations, but as an educated guess, is that correct?
So, let’s say Dr Cave states in his interview with the BBC that we have one machine setting up as we speak (they’re advertising for a machine operative, I assume that’s confirmation of at least one in place) and maybe more in the pipe line, can we ROUGHLY assume that the SP will be around 3.75 per machine? I realise we are sat at 5p right now so I know this is guesswork. Then of course the potential of licensing etc. Just some rough figures there for someone to rip apart and maybe provide some insight please. Thanks
“Thanks X, I’ll pass this one over to the marketing guys. But if you want me to tal through the science etc with them please feel free to link me through to your friend. All the best, Gareth.”
Marketing guys I should have stated. It’s somewhat reassuring, but in lieu of news the SP is going to continue to be volatile. According to Dr Cave, it’s all going ahead and also to plan, so all we can do now is wait for news and hope that the market values the news then reflects it in the SP. What has become evident is that it’s not just about having an amazing product, we have that en route, it’s about orders and emotional stability of this stock. Without those, we could have a golden egg laying goose and still lose out. I’m very confident, but of course feeling concern, so keep the (genuine) info coming please guys. It helps
This was me, had to post on ADVFN due to this chat being down. As I said before, I have a friend who owns a large medical suppliers and explained this to Dr Cave during our exchange. He’s passed this on to his marketing team and has said he is happy to discuss the science with him (my friend), so some small reassurance to know that there is a marketing team involved. Hopefully this means some RNS very soon...
I’m pretty hacked off myself with the lack of news and just constant pummelling of the SP, also pretty concerned with my holding at 2.9, but as I said on the other board the salient facts are still true - the masks as undeniably a fantastic addition to the world, they SHOULD be snapped up and are required for the foreseeable future. However, how the market reacts and how the MM’s behave is completely unknown and where my worries lie. I have faith in what this business is looking to achieve, I have faith in the product, beyond that (and based on current SP madness) I just don’t know what to think. I’m holding in any case. Any thoughts welcome.
New trade, we can discuss privately? I’m not comfortable on here to be honest, seems to be full of distrust and understandably so. A lot of idiots. Interested to hear your thoughts
Thank you, I’m just having a wobble clearly. Unsurprising with the last two days. Hugely encouraged by what’s going on here and I just needed some security. Won’t post again! Haha good luck guys